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I wonder if anybody can point to 1 game out of the approximately 5,600 games between Division 1 teams (the only games the NET contemplates) where a team didn’t “take guys out” before the end of a “50” and “60” point game.
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Add to that to say we’ve seen the inability to pivot to a different coach when the hired coach turns out to not be the right fit. If you can be ok w/ your ego not being hurt admitting your choice didn’t turn out to work, whether you’re an institution (group of people) or one person, then it’s easier to pivot imo. If you can pivot when needed, hire and fire away until you get your Nick Saban.
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I'll take leave it for 5000 Alex.
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1. Over 2. Under 3. Depends on how you define guard versus wing. If guard is just 1/2 then under. If guard equals the 1/2/3 spots, then over.
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It’s time… Fire Mike Woodson
bronkonagurski replied to KoB2011's topic in General Basketball Discussion
Going to be honest, I have zero faith the next hire will be a good one. Not saying I'd rather keep Woodson indefinitely, don't get me wrong. After all these years, I simply don't trust whatever process they follow. Hope they prove me wrong. -
Haha. Got it. There/their. Bare/bear. Get me every time.
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Pearl is in his 60's and has never coached a Blue Blood. He has seen IU Basketball at its best under RMK. I would imagine he sees IU the same way we do, you get the right person in here and with the resources we have, the ceiling is high.
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It’s time… Fire Mike Woodson
Officer Obie replied to KoB2011's topic in General Basketball Discussion
You edited your post, but somehow asking people to take their clothes off before reading further escaped your notice. 🤨 -
Over/Under? 1. We’ll ultimately have 5.5 open scholarships 2. We use 12.5 scholarships (of the 13 available) 3. We get 3.5 guards in the portal
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I don’t think the expectations are the issue. I think the administration has targeted the wrong coaches to fulfill those expectations. Be it not wanting to pay what it takes to get an elite coach or internal politics keeping AD’s from hiring who they want (Sampson over Beilein), ect. The issue has been and continues to be the administration and donors flexing for the wrong guys. The SEC churns and burns through coaches in football, and nobody blinks an eye about unrealistic expectations……it’s the SEC dag gummit. If expectations are not met, then the coach wasn’t up to that standard. It’s that simple. They have mouth pieces on ESPN that promote and defend their moves. IU doesn’t utilize that type of strategy well. So the fans and expectations get dumped on. l
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Any particular reason why? Just curious.
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“I think the analytics are bulls—,” Providence head coach Kim English told reporters after his squad was ruled out. “I think you could schedule bad teams in your non-league and beat the snot out of them and beat them by 50 and 60. I think coaching for so long has been a gentleman agreement. I mean, you have a large lead at the end of the game, for health reasons you take guys out, to get some other guys opportunities to play, you take guys out. “ “But right now might be a change in college basketball. We’re scheduling to beat teams by 40 and 50. [It] might be a thing to do, but when you get into this league, the analytics aren’t going to look very good in league. You’re playing against some really, really good coaches.”
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So, the program trajectory is not going in the right direction after an abysmal season. I know we’re all wondering: why the 4th year? If the chances of turning this thing are low then why not rip off the band-aid? I’m only coming to 2 conclusions. 1. Some people in power really think Woody is up for the challenge. And bear with me…. 2. The perception of fairness. I’m wondering if how quickly we got rid of Crean and Sampson came back to bite us. There is somewhat of a coaches fraternity in all sports where they bond over all the BS they have to deal with. In CBB, Izzo and K love to speak out and defend their own. Programs like ours that are, rightly or wrongly, rifling through coaches may be getting that ‘toxic’ reputation within the fraternity. With all the high end coaching prospects out there, after Crean we made 2 underwhelming hires in a row. I can’t imagine either were top 3 (possibly top 5) on the AD’s wishlists. This likely means that high end coaches are saying ‘no’ behind the scenes. We repeat it daily: we have the tradition, the resources, the money, the national exposure, a recruiting destination, fan support, etc. But if the candidates we go after do not perceive IU as being fair in their expectations, is it realistic to assume that we can lure them away from a competitive program they built? This time, I’m wondering if Woody has to fall flat on his face to overcome the perception that we are jumping the gun by firing a head coach….one of our own….once again.
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It’s time… Fire Mike Woodson
13th&Jackson replied to KoB2011's topic in General Basketball Discussion
Rest assured, if IU squeaks into the NCAAT next year as an 11 or 12 seed, Woodson will get a contract extension -
It’s time… Fire Mike Woodson
13th&Jackson replied to KoB2011's topic in General Basketball Discussion
Sadly, that’s really all that’s left. Don’t go to games, don’t subscribe to Peacock, don’t watch other IU games, don’t buy merchandise and don’t support NIL initiatives. When the vision and values of the leadership of a business or organization don’t align with its customers or members, the only real response is to not support it. Find something else to do. The arrogance of the administration, coach and some players is making this easier all the time -
It’s time… Fire Mike Woodson
Coach Robby replied to KoB2011's topic in General Basketball Discussion
Players on tournament teams can't enter portal yet -
Looking at the portal guys TDH is reporting we're known to have contacted already. Not saying an individual or two couldn't really blow up here, but the list of programs isn't particularly impressive as a whole - Canisius, Furman, Penn, Drexel. Some bigger programs in the guys to keep an eye on section, but -while early - color me non-plussed. Looks like the downward spiral will continue.
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Most folks think if you’re lacking throw money at it. Meanwhile coaches at small town universities create a real fundamental foundation and get a leg up by actually developing players and evolving the strengths of their program. When the money runs out or there is a lapse in talent, your weakness gets exposed and your back to dumpster fire. Imagine IU spending loads of money buying as much talent as possible to try and win the national championship they gave away when firing a guy over phone calls and weed. Money pouring in at IU is nothing new. But a coach like Teri Moren needs very little in comparison to sustain a competitive edge. She has a culture and program established. Maybe they could just pay the fans some name image likeness funds to not boo Woodson out of town.
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There is a real easy way to fix that. Fans need to stop showing up and showing support.
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Changing because of an UA contract is daydreaming. Basketball history? Yeah, distant history. Our history over the last three decades stinks. Recruiting? He seems to be doing better than we are. I think players would play for him wherever he is. He doesn't have to move to get his players. I still don't see a reason for him to leave Auburn for our mess.
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DWB started following March Madness 2024
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What about "lipstick for the p__"? (just kidding, just kidding)
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YEAH HE is going no where
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This was such a good post. Bumping it up.