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I’m taking a knee on the nba and nfl...done so the past two years haven’t gone to any games and rarely watch anymore than the playoffs and haven’t missed it a bit. Throw all the stuff on the jerseys now (the only ones approved are on one side of these issues) and nfl supporting planned parenthood directly by some teams and through United way who donates to Planned parenthood local chapters and well I wish sports (should be the one uniter is used to divide) would stay out of taking sides. I know people think politics and sports should coincide but guess I’m in the minority and would like it kept out. Like you I solved it by not buying any merchandise, tickets, and doing my best to limit my consumption (something very hard for a sports nut I admit lol).

You are ok with 7 million kids not getting mental health services? An increase in suicides that will kill more kids than Covid? Kids not getting meals? Kids suffering from the abuse of parents- who will be even more stressed out with kids home full time? Depression and or mental disorders affecting our teens? Increases in drug overdoses? Should we just add a year of school to make up for what will be a lost year of learning for many kids? How about the loss to our economy and the effects on parents where one has to stay home with the kids? Did you read what the CDC Prevention Dr said in this article? =https://www.christianpost.com/news/more-youth-are-dying-of-suicide-overdose-than-covid-19-during-pandemic-cdc-director.html E-learning has serious consequences that need to be weighed against the benefit of saving (what now appears to be a limited amount of) lives from Covid.

First is personal and I don’t want it to get political...I’ll leave it at that. Second while I enjoy basketball more personally football is something that is engrained into our culture more. First off every game is so meaningful, second off tailgating and the game day event is way way better in person. Don’t get me wrong again I prefer basketball but I can’t argue the experience the whole day for football is bigger. Third I don’t think concussions will kill the sport...they are making player safety changes and there will always be those willing to risk themselves to play. Fourth it is so far ahead of basketball it isn’t funny (even if b-ball is more global). Finally the game is at its core violent, gladiator-like, been made more entertaining with the scoring, and speaks to the inner male like no other. Mostly it is just so far ahead and built into our American culture much like soccer overseas I don’t think it will lose its audience any time soon....well unless they really really ruin it. Look at NFL and college football...all other sports combined in the US don’t earn what it does or garner the attention. It’s a huge lead.

Why is it pushback when someone has an opinion that some things related to the virus are too restrictive, but it's not pushback when someone has an opinion that some things related to the virus are too lenient?

Glad the Pacers won but Bryant and another 20 and 11 game. So happy for that kid. For those keeping score at home. Bryant is 4 months younger than Matt Haarms.

Helpful info regarding the school debate- https://downloads.aap.org/AAP/PDF/AAP and CHA - Children and COVID-19 State Data Report 7.30.20 FINAL.pdf Includes state level data about kids tested, diagnosed, hospitalized and died from the American Academy of Pediatrics and Childrens Hospital Association. Current through July 30. 338,982 Child cases (out of 75 million+ child population) representing 8.8% of total cases, 0.03% of cases result in death (86 deaths). For perspective, roughly 500 children die annually from the flu, 700 from drowning and 1200 from car accidents. I know this doesn't address transmission to adults (teachers and family members) but all indications have thus far shown that is relatively minor. We are going way overboard in closing schools- especially those in large cities / economically depressed areas. Studies show that the damage caused by such policies will be multiples worse than from Covid itself and possibly last a generation. We have hard evidence here. We don't see kids that die of the flu and from drownings all over the national news. When a child covid death is a national news headline, that is a sign the media are out to manipulate emotions. Balanced reporting would include the data I presented above. it is truly sick that people are taking advantage of children (don't tell me that kids will not suffer from not being in school) to promote their agendas- whatever they may be. We need to put a stop to that and get the facts reported accurately.

Hey. I formed it up and supervised. My neighbor and some kids helped for beer.

Either way, he’s doing a phenomenal job as commissioner, and is making Goodell and Manfred look silly in how they’re handling their leagues in terms of Covid and in general.

Great idea. Also, most colleges are extending winter break, or at least doing online classes from Fall Break through January. They could do the entire season then.

They do and NBA deserves major Kudos. I've been privately emailing the Big 10 commissioner, Indiana's Governor and of course IU AD to throw the idea of a 60 day bubble in Indy for Big 10 season this year. Games at Bankers, Hinkle, IUPUI,etc.....keep kids from spikes on campus, better healthcare, TV $...elearning is going to happen so why worry about that component....less travel expenses,etc...could do from December to Mid Feb (IU isn't on campus until Feb 8) or from early Jan to Mid March.

Thought I’d add that I’m loving this NBA restart. It’s awesome, there’s games all day long. Got home from work and caught a little of the Nuggets-Thunder. Sat down after dinner and now catching some of the Grizz-Pelicans and tonight you have Lakers-Jazz. I think it’s great and the NBA clearly has the best leadership of the major sports.

100%

I saw a headline today, 40 million may lose their house due to corona economy. We keep hearing buzzwords like science. what about math?

Been saying a similar version since May. I'm very sorry for all who have or will lose loved one's with Covid-19 but the greater impact is and has been in play. The long term detriments are a far bigger concern.

I thought Tyson’s saying was ‘get hit or get bit’

FWIW, school was back in session today down here in Tell City. 85% of the parents said they wanted their kids in school.

I would say that right now it would be better to go with e-learning until the first of the year.

My going rate is $400/hour. Pretty cheap.

If that were to happen, I'm almost certain Hoopster would make me pay for it.

I tend to agree with tdhoosier. It's a local issue. The school issue is complicated, kids, middle school and high school in particular, are breeding grounds for this virus, they carry it, and yes, they -- generally -- don't tend to be at risk (though that ignores that kids have gotten really sick and died from this virus), but they do expose teachers and school staff and workers. There's also the risk of bringing the virus back home to parents and grandparents, from school. I want my kids in school, rather than indefinitely studying online, but I also want them and the schools to be safe. At this point my daughter is returning to her boarding school in September, but attending classes online there for the first term. My middle child is returning to college, for in-person classes, but with the school having taking a number of measures, including a split online/in-person environment, reduced class sizes, etc. My oldest, who is in is last year at Northwestern, is still figuring it out along with the school. He may attend online -- that appears to be a choice, but Northwestern starts late and the final decisions don't yet appear to have been made. Each of these schools is in a different state, and are different size schools, and have different school / populations / situations to consider. And some states and communities are dealing with high level infections and hospitalizations, and others are down or trending down.

You know we love you Fouls. Apologies as well that my post came across as any kind of shot at you, it wasn't meant that way. Sometimes I can be kind of flip in the way I reply to a message board post --

I apologize. Your post was not offensive. You expressed your opinion. I was irritated that you took a little shot at me without directly quoting me, but then I turned around and did the same to you. Except mine was even worse.

I don't know where we begin to start if you are going to insinuate skepticism on a flu comparison by just asking open ended 'what if' questions about similar traits the viruses may share because that doesn't get us anywhere. It's like me trying to compare the dangers of a pitbull and shih tzu by saying: well, they're both dogs, they both bark and they both have teeth, thus, they're equally as dangerous. Per the CDC website: Again, my argument is based on transmission rate given the information the CDC has observed and how this may effect a school operationally. I'm actually surprised i'm getting push back on this. My own concern (not the media's or your friend on Facebook...please don't lump me in with them) is that it is possible that high schools and possibly middle schools can be places where those superspreading events MAY happen. It's not going to happen in every school, but it is likely to happen. Therefore, individual districts are correct in practicing caution and concern by preparing for these possible events. It also re-iterates the very first and most important point of my original reply: this decision needs to be made locally based on the case count in their area. Just like you may believe that we all shouldn't be frightened away from opening schools if the case count in your area is relatively safe (which I actually agree with you and Reacher on), it's also that schools shouldn't be forced to open up if the case count is moderate to high.

This thread seems like a lot of folks with existing views searching for sources to back up what they already believe. That's perfectly fine, and I sometimes have a tendency to do it too, but is it the most helpful way to drive a discussion?

https://www.christianpost.com/news/more-youth-are-dying-of-suicide-overdose-than-covid-19-during-pandemic-cdc-director.html Link title pretty much says it all. If you don't want to read- here is one excerpt- In his July 14 interview, Redfield emphasized the absence of schools for the increase in suicides, overdoses and general mental health difficulties faced by young people during the pandemic. He also said resources to combat these problems have been overworked by COVID-19 or are too dangerous to access. “You know, a lot of kids get their mental health services, over 7 million, in school,” Redfield explained. “A lot of people get food and nutrition in schools. Schools are really important in terms of mandatory reporting of sexual and child abuse. Obviously, socialization is important.” Redfield said that the "cost to our nation in continuing to keep these schools closed is substantial." We need to weigh the costs and benefits of school closings. Is society willing to accept 500 Covid deaths among children to prevent 2000 deaths from other causes? Granted, we have no idea what those numbers are or will be. I pulled them out of a hat for the sake of discussion. We do know suicide is the second leading cause of death resulting in 15,000 deaths in 2018 (from the article above). Right now, society seems to not be valuing suicide, depression, child abuse and the education of many of our children due to a fear of Covid. Is that fear justified?

I'm all for kids going back to school but I'm beginning to wonder how possible this actually is. I'll repeat what I said earlier, the decision to go back should be made on a local level based on the number of reported cases in the area. That said, I keep hearing about incidents like this one. A suburban Chicago school came to our county (Porter) to have a 'missed prom' and there was an outbreak, even after being pretty cautious (according to the article). We took our son for his check up and our Doctor said that Valpo High School also had a 'missed prom' and there was an outbreak there. These are smaller subgroups in an entire school system and infection still can't be avoided. Two incidents within 10 miles from me, right before school starts. It hits home a little. Again, I realize that severe symptoms in children 10 and under are believed to be rare and death is even more rare, but only concentrating on these stats misses the point. I'm wondering if schools can realistically function if too many teachers and students are out sick. How many subs are there? If a school has an outbreak, will you even get a sub to teach there? At what point will parents keep their healthy children home? I don't want to minimize death and hospitalization, but I think a valid concern is will schools be able to operate? I don't necessarily think that can be minimalized to fear mongering. It's a legit question.

Slow down a bit guys. We have been pretty loose in letting this thread stay organic. But a few of you keep stepping closer and closer to the line of political discussion. People taking advantage of children for an agenda? Thats pushing the limits of our discussion. Trump doctors this etc. You all can state your views on HCQ, schools, death rates etc. Just please stop purposefully seeing how far you can push it here.

Love Zepplin and Bohnam...always between him and Keith Moon of "The Who" for favorite rock drummer. Love Stewart Copeland too. As for Zepplin, love II, IV, Houses of the Holy, and Physical Graffiti. I always thought if someone wanted to hear Moon's brilliance listen to "Quadrophenia" (and I can never grasp why some think "Tommy" is such a rock opera achievement when, in my view "Quadrophenia" is so much better). Just awesome.

One thing that's been discussed quite a bit is the rough there. I don't think they've decided if they are going to cut it or not and if they do cut it on Wednesday they'll let it go the rest of the week. Accuracy will be king. Could see plenty of long iron play this week. Similar to a US Open setup. One other factor is the weather. These guys have been playing in heat and humidity. Low 60's is going to feel chilly and borderline cold.

Supervising and paying are my specialties...

Two questions... 1) why don't you like Silver? 2) why don't you think the NBA will overtake the NFL? Full disclosure, I don't believe football as we know it will exist in my lifetime.

Maybe check with your internet provider. Only a suggestion. As in my case I have multiple tv's in house. All of which I can get Hulu Live Tv on. And yes. I understand the frustration at times. One other suggestion. Call Hulu. I have not had a reason to call them lately. But when I did... their reps were extremely helpful.

Let's rock...best rock drummer ever?

Well I first need a good looking woman who test positive to make out with for a half hour or so then start my course the next day.😁

Seems to me some people want to wait on a 100% effective cure which simply isn't going to happen. As a guy that does all his own mechanic work I have about 30 different tools I use regularly. So I look at covid like my truck. If it helps even 10% of infections then use it as 1 part of a tool set. I have yet to see a one size fits all approach work anywhere in life.

Probably just me but I just can't get into the NBA like I use to