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Murder. I would say murder would get you suspended for awhile.

I honestly don't think he's getting suspended for that at this point, nor should he be. Our starting point guard getting a speeding ticket (that's all it really ended up being) in the offseason is a big fat nothing burger.

Clif's son shares our excitement for TJD coming back!

Great news for IU basketball. I really like this for Reneau. When was the last time a kid of his status come in without the weight of the world on his shoulders? Not being looked upon by a fan base to carry the load? Being able to go at it in practice with two seasoned, excellent players in Race and Trayce. Two guys with two different body types and skillsets. This team has a chance to be really, really special.

With the talent, leadership and coaching we have on this team. I honestly will be disappointed if we don't compete for a B1G title and a S16 run. Unless something extraordinary happens to derail us, we should be hard to beat on any given night. I too an excited about this coming year. I want to brag again. I want to rub titles in peoples faces. I want AH to be feared again when people look at their schedule.

This is a really good post. I don't think, as of now, TJD was as impactful then CZ... I simply don't like the "well this guy just isn't that good because of team success." Like.. TJD is veryyyyy good. I have no clue where he is in regards to legend status/whatever, but his love for IU cannot be questioned. My goodness am I excited. 22-23 is going to be a lot of fun!

I would guess seniority is merely a tie-breaker, which it should be when no one clearly establishes themselves as the starter IMO.

Plenty of things, but so far you've compared a DUI and sexual assault to speeding.

My one and only contribution to this topic...

Meh. If you're not expecting anything, why compete?

I have a dream where I'm back living in a dorm, which for me was a double all to myself in Read, in the hub with a personal full bathroom attached. Sweet setup. Only in my dream I know I've graduated. I'm not going to class, even though I've enrolled in classes. And I'm adding debt by way tuition & room and board. Wonder what that dream means...

Ahh.. this is your confusion. You don't compare team success with Individual impact. KoB also said "has a chance". "TJD has never finished above .500" This isn't tennis, or swimming, or track... or golf. Or whatever individual sports there are. This is basketball.... Archie Miller and others held TJD back. That's on them, not him.

Lol. The big handsome took us from an absolute dumpster fire to a win over a probably undefeated UK team and a Sweet 16 in year one followed by another Sweet 16, outright B1G title, and preseason #1 ranking in year 2. Trayce has never finished .500 in the B1G in 3 seasons. Lol.

TJD has a chance to be the most important player we’ve had since Bob Knight was coach IMO.

As a Bears and Colts fan I've been asking for this move for the past 2 years. We (Bears) could have traded him multiple times for a pick and help us out with his cap number. What did we do? Paid a 3rd string QB I think $16M to make fun of Nagy during games. For the Colts I really, really like this move. Ryan is the starter but Foles is a Super Bowl winning QB, understands Reich's system....and if something happens to Ryan to miss a game or whatever the falloff to Foles isn't that far.

Scott's "refreshing" take on visiting opposing team's message boards.

I am definitely excited with all the returning talent and top level freshman coming in. But is anybody else concerned that we have not necessarily solved one glaring weakness? We still do nqt have that athletic wing that can defend at a high level, and create for himself on the offensive side. I know we expect TB to take a step forward. But until something is shown, I think it is our glaring weakness. Even more than perimeter shooting.

i really think this is the only debate

He got a DUI, it's not at all the same.

So... are you to the point that you're arguing that XJ SHOULD be suspended? For real? Like.. even though you know like. 25% of the whole story/actions that night? Would you question RMK like this? Flat out. Don't understand. Why isnt.. "whatever Woodson, Dolson, and staff decide" good enough?

Does everyone have this dream...? I swear...I'm in my 50's and recently had the same stupid dream...😂...I couldn't even find the classroom when I looked.

Below is how this thread shows up on my desktop. I thought, well, that gets right to the point.

I can never get those Twitter links to work right in here but here’s his statement

Hunter Green now had pitched 9.1 straight hitless innings. 7.1 last game and the first 2 today. Also saw a great stat about George Brett, the season he hit .390 he only struck out 22 times the whole season.

Agreed about not being individual to a degree. I do also agree that Cody Zeller has been the most important players to come to IU in the last 20 years. His choice really moved IU out of the basement after Sampson-Gate. His signing was really big. I wish he and Oladipo had stayed one more year. I really do think they would have had a chance at a national title. I really like Trace but i am not sure i am ever going to put him in the legendary players of IU. Great Kid, HUGE Heart, Important to the team for sure. But legendary isn't something i associate with him. Now, if he wins NPOY and/or a National title this year, i will revisit my opinion. I do appreciate everything he has done for the last 4 years. Great team and individual player. And i do hope he cements himself as a legend and brings banner #6 home this year. Just my thoughts. I know it will be different than many others. And i appreciate those opinions too.

IF he wins a championship, then perhaps.

The Kansas and Arizona games are gonna be big measuring sticks for this team. We'll see if we are truly a final four contender or a sweet 16 team. I want to see 2 wins but I'd be fine with 2 competitive losses.

Who said anything about not disciplining him? A game 7 months later for speeding seems stupid though. I guarantee whatever Woodson did to punish him is far worse than missing an exhibition game that doesn't even count.

Not 7 months after the fact. That doesn't accomplish anything.

Such a weird comment. What more do you think Xavier learns about his error by sitting a game in November that he wouldn't/couldn't learn before then?

Why would he be getting punished like 7 months after the fact?

A lot more chances for offensive rebounds, too.

I hope it's not Kopp. That said, it'll probably be Kopp, even if it's just for his experience.

That's the thing though...I don't doubt there are ill-informed idiots in some IU fan forums, but this is a free forum and I really don't see much of that here, which is frankly refreshing. The few times I've ventured over to B-Town Banners, another free forum, I didn't see a lot of foolishness there either. Neither of these two have even remotely the degree of next-level stupid I see on GBI. ...and I'm glad it's there...absolutely entertaining to read and laugh at.

It’s always weird to me when they talk about IU “tanking the careers of 5 stars” like it is the whole program and not 1 person. Even here last season most people were willing to admit PU should have had a really good team. They can’t fathom anything positive happening for IU.

I still don't understand why anyone would go to another teams message board in the first place. It is either to troll the other team or you are trying to get validation from the other team. I couldn't care less what an opposing team fan base thinks about IU basketball.

Yeah baby!!!

This is a decision that will not only effect the program next season, but very well could have major influence on the course of the program for an entire generation. 20 years from now we won't be talking bout wat TJD did for the program during his playing days. Rather, we hopefully can look back and just how much he meant to the program.

I gotta give kudos to @dbmhoosier. He started a thread on Gold and Black Illustrated about Trayce coming back... Stirred up quite a hornet's nest of activity

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future“ — Yogi Berra

Final Four or Bust!!! 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

LET'S GOOOOOO!!!!!

really like announcing it like that and it makes me very excited for next season!