Hoosierhoopster

OK he's a big kid. The apple falls not far from the tree -- Dale was a monster, this kid is a monster in the making.

He can commit around me if he wants.

I see things similarly. On the one hand, he could have a year similar to EJ, who was playing with DJ, much like Romeo should have good space given what Morgan will bring. Those 2 should absolutely kill it this season. On the other hand, we should have better scoring this year with Smith primed for a big jump to go with Morgan, and yes Fitzner should bring consistent outside shooting — and he also should really thrive with the space he’ll get playing with Morgan, Romeo, Smith et al. So Romeo may well average 18-20, but he and IU could also have a really good year, averaging 16-17, with scoring spread around more. Who cares which happens, so long as he is efficient and it helps the team run deep?

Have to start the "hot seat" discussion first!

You left this out

oh just stop. Personal eye test? PPG, Assists, Finals MVP, All star game appearances, etc. is a personal eye test? Are you trying to get under my skin or are you being deliberately obtuse??

Hey I know what his slotted position was, I'm just saying he wasn't really what we call a point guard, he's much more like LBJ is now

No problem with that -- Magic is hard to qualify though -- to me he is right there with MJ and LBJ as the GOAT, but he is more like LBJ to me as not really a "point guard," he was the proverbial point forward, but in a class by himself. IT was a pure PG.

When did you stop beating your wife?

I have to find the one that ranks PG no. 1. 🤭

Whoohoo, good for Espn! They're the authority! Good grief, I'm sure you can find the dozens and dozens of actually knowledgeable people/services that rank IT as the best or one of the best point guards ever. Btw, Stockton over IT is absolutely laughable, Magic is a tough call -- he was the proverbial point forward, as an overall player I'd probably take him over IT but not as pure pg/ball handler (IT's handles for what it's worth were worlds better than Magic's, as he'd readily admit) -- clarification, for ranking purposes though, hard to argue that Magic was the best ever. Curry over IT is seriously questionable, but debatable, Oscar, hmm, forgot about him somehow, he was amazing. Then there are guys like Cousy, who gets lost in the shuffle because of time and we're back to trying to weigh modern vs. past era players. If you just pull up rankings by espn, cbs, fox sports or whatever you get ridiculously differing lists, and often flat out ridiculous lists. Here's one that's not so bad, but still lots of room to question the order of some. https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/the-top-10-greatest-nba-point-guards-of-all-time.html/

I guess I don't get why you're arguing with me. We were talking about who is the better player, IT or Pippen. I understood you to be arguing Pippen's better. Yes, you're biased. If we' square up and you want to pick Pippen for your team over IT, go for it. I'd take IT over Pippen 10 times out of 10.

Good article on Westbrook, what he needs to do this season, and the Thunder -- https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/no-more-excuses-for-russell-westbrook-its-time-for-him-to-lift-the-thunder-to-elite-status/

Piece on 5 players to watch in the B1G, Romeo #1: Five players to watch 1. Romeo Langford, Indiana The Big Ten's most likely (and maybe only) one-and-done prospect speeds up the timeline for what's expected from second-year coach Archie Miller at Indiana. Langford is a smooth, lengthy guard who should give the Hoosiers a scoring threat no matter where he is on the floor. He is the type of talent who can dominate any given game, and folks in Bloomington would be wise to enjoy watching him while they have the chance. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/24324241/big-ten-hopes-better-ncaa-tournament-haul-2018-19-season The other 4 players listed -- Happ Charles Mathews (UM) Nick Ward (MSU) James Palmer, Jr. (Neb)