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  1. He is taking the rational approach. Most of the prognosticators do not know all that much, they are guessing. It is better to be cautious about all of this "IU is in the lead" stuff on message boards IMO. Leads to pretty ugly reactions if the kid goes elsewhere.
  2. There is a difference between him choosing to do that and a journalist doing it without Knight's consent.
  3. I do too. My one wish, the one thing I would like to see is him getting a send off in Assembly Hall. I was a senior when he was fired, I was out and about during the "riot", and I was there at Dunn Meadow. Dunn Meadow was nice but with what that guy did for the school, I would really like to see him get a send off at Assembly Hall. No need to talk, no need for a speech, just walk him out on the floor again and let the crowd do the rest. And for the younger people who never got a chance to see a game while Knight was coaching, there has not been a presence in the hall since where you can feel the crowd just anticipating him walking out onto the floor. Every. Single. Game. I caught the tail end of his career but it was just another level when he was here.
  4. They are bringing him back to a place that is familiar to him. It will be nice to have him back but the circumstances behind it just suck. He was a quick witted guy and if you read between the lines, it sounds like that is going away.
  5. That is fine, but his point is spot on too. Nobody would be saying that we need to wait a few years and see how Miller does when the program is full of his players if he was winning 25 games and making deep tournament wins in year 1 and 2. The reality is that sometimes it takes time and sometimes it does not. Sometimes early success comes when you have the prior guys players and falls off when you get your players in the program (Mike Davis) and sometimes the opposite is true. The reality is that you can make an argument either way. No point in litigating year 1 and 2 anymore anyway. Someone said it already, win now. That is what matters. Miller needs to start winning now. Most of the coaches that get brought up as needing time to get going started to see results in year 3. So now is put up or shut up time. Going back to Glass, the football team is 41-69 (.372) since he took over with 2 Bowl appearances and zero winning seasons. And oh yeah, he fired the coach who was the only coach since Mallory to take us to multiple bowl games. Basketball was better than football but that has been the norm. We have gone 195-141 (.580) in his tenure with 4 NCAA appearances, 2 Big Ten titles, and 3 Sweet 16 appearances. We have been feast or famine under his watch though as we do pretty good on the years where we make the tournament but we have missed it 60% of the time Fred has been in charge. That for a program that historically has been much more consistent than that, even after Knight left. (Mike Davis made tournament 4 out of 6 years, Kelvin Sampson made it both of his years). The Crean hire was a bad decision that does not fall on Glass. Giving him an undeserved extension with a stupidly high buy out does. Jury is out on Miller.
  6. He is in year #10 of his tenure. He hired Kevin Wilson and then fired him. He gave Crean the extension early in his tenure, kept him around longer than he should, and then had to replace him (he did not do the initial hire though so that is not on him). This is not just about Allen and Miller, it is about the 10 years he has been given to fumble around in his position before (maybe/hopefully) finally figuring stuff out after a decade. And keep in mind that with incentives we are paying him $1 million a year. So he has made $5 to $10 million (base salary is $500k) while football and basketball have been mired in mediocrity.
  7. When your top 2 revenue programs have missed (meaningful) post season play for more than 50% of your tenure, no, you are not a good AD. Doing good at all of those other sports is all well and good but donations and revenue revolve around football and basketball. If you are not doing those right as an AD at a P5 school, you are a bad AD. Period.
  8. That is all valid. I am just not happy with the ship he has been the captain of, mainly with regard to the 2 revenue sports. This upcoming season for both sports would go a long way to shut me up or solidify my opinion that we need a new A.D. Allen and Miller are his guys. They really need to start producing on the field and court this season. I think that is particularly true of Allen. Wilson was supposedly a PITA to deal with, but he had been the most successful coach since Mallory and Fred let him go and took a huge gamble on who he replaced him with. We are in year 10 of the Glass regime, time for his decisions to bear fruit.
  9. No disagreement on the majority of that. I think, if I wanted to put a positive spin on things, that if we can make the tournament and see some development in the team in 2019-2020, that the 2020-2021 season could be the "turn around" year. Why? Because I think that a Jr. Phinisee should be really good at PG. I would expect Hunter, if he can play next year, to be around for a RS Sophomore campaign. Brunk and TJD would be a very solid 4 and 5 and then all we are looking to do is find a dynamic SG...whether that person already is on the roster or not. Much of that depends on what happens this year though. I think this year is pivotal because we may be set for Miller's 4th year but you need to keep bringing a pipeline of players behind that. This was ultimately Crean's downfall. He did not consistently recruit well enough to fill in behind his breakout squad. I think a year that looks like the ship is turning positive will help solidify Miller's position and help the recruiting following it. Another bad year starts to hurt in keeping a pipeline coming in IMO. But I still think this offseason has been a bit of a bummer either way.
  10. "Again, I know some people don't want to hear it, but I think we were in a very serious rebuild when Archie got here, and we're working ourselves out of that. I think he's the kind of guy who's going to be one of our most iconic coaches and have a very long and successful career at Indiana.” And whose fault would that be Fred? You started in 2009 and the basketball program has been an absolute train wreck on YOUR watch. He runs his mouth about impatient fans and I would say that we are currently in the middle of the second big rebuild on his watch. That is on you buddy. You did that.
  11. Last season was bad by any measure. So you have the hangover from that. Spring recruiting was very mediocre. Yes, we added Brunk and I think that is a good pickup but we missed on every single other guy we went after in the spring. There is no buzz around the team right now at all. I have seen articles from the AD saying we are in a big rebuild. Saw another one about ROI for the basketball program and we were in the bottom 10 for the past 10 years. On recruiting, there is no buzz right now (or has not been lately)...just has felt like a funk up to this point. I think the most rational expectation of next year's team right now is a bubble type of team. It just feels like a blah summer, I would love to get a recruiting win to have something to get excited about.
  12. Hope so. Would be nice to get something positive right now. This offseason has sucked worse than usual.
  13. Missing the tournament 8 of the last 11 years takes its toll. We just had a major rebuild with Crean and according to our AD we are in the second rebuild of his watch...empty seats are not that unexpected from my POV right now. I expect to see them to start the year too, there is zero buzz around this program. The recruiting forum is a ghost town and this one is awfull slow too (and yes I know it is the summer but the recruiting forum is usually fairly busy this time of year). I think there will be quite a few "wait and see" fans to start the year. If we look to be getting better, the crowds will slowly return. If next season starts out rough, tickets will be easy to come by. Miller has until probably year 5 because of his buyout, but next year is really important for his long term prospects IMO.
  14. Expectations adjust over time. Right now, I have lowered my expectations to just making the tournament. That used to be a given but it has not happened 7 years out of the previous 10. So while I used to want to be Top 3 in Conference and get to the Sweet 16 and then see where things went, now I just hope to get enough wins to get invited to the tournament. If that starts to happen with any regularity, then I will increase expectations. So my expectation would be to have a tournament team in year 3 for Miller. I expect him to struggle to meet that expectation based on prior results and our roster. Hopefully we have a season like Purdue last year where a team that appeared extremely pedestrian on paper, caught lightning in a bottle and did well. But really that is what we are hanging our hopes on right now, guys doing things they have not really done consistently since they have been here, whether that be staying healthy, good shooting, taking care of the ball, hustling, etc. I know this, if I were Miller after the past 2 years, I would be kind of weary of the third hand I have dealt right now.
  15. I think it is hard to rank the players across generations. Does Cheaney look as good now when he likely would never have stayed past his Sophomore year? Do V.O. and Zeller look better if they stay another year and be part of a starting five that has 4 NBA players (V.O., Zeller, Vonleh, and Ferrell)? If that group goes to a Final 4 or wins a Championship, does that move any of those 4 up the list? What if Gordon plays 2 or 3 years more? Langford? Cheaney and Co. came in as a super class and went 8-10 in the Big Ten. He scored 17 ppg his Freshman year and 21 ppg his sophomore. Are we looking at him like we do Langford, V.O., Vonleh, Gordon, etc. if he played in today's game?
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