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Kudos to Gard. A lot of people thought they would go down the tubes when the Grinch left.

Give up on them??? That would indeed have been surprising because Wright took Nova to the sweet 16 in year 4 and in year 4 coach K finished 3rd in the ACC and made it to the second round. And imagine if “UVA gave up on Tony Bennett after they lost to a 16 seed”? Come on...in the previous 4 years they won at least 1 tourney game, went to a sweet sixteen, went to an elite 8 another, they were first in the ACC a few times and you are comparing Bennett’s result with our last two years of 9th and 10th conference finishes? Archie will be in decent shape if he comes close to matching those guys by finishing in the top 5 or so in the BT this year and wins at least one tourney game. I’m skeptical but hope that happens.

Agree that the money truck list is not as long as usual but those at the top of the revenue heap have donors to make sure something like this can happen. I don’t know who needs a coordinator but places like Texas and Georgia can always find cash if the word football is involved. Edit: a nightmare scenario would be a new UM head coach going after Wommack.

A lot of programs will be knocking on wommacks door. We need to find a way to keep him another year or two. I don’t remember ever hearing so many ex-player commentators, week after week, praising a DC’s scheme to such an extent, saying how he does such a good job confusing the qb’s, raving about creative ways to apply pressure and hide what the DB’s are doing. “Name brand” schools are taking notice of the IU defense, with 3 star players at a historically horrible defensive program, and will be backing up the money trucks.

It seems as though IU is Allen’s dream job, rather than a stepping stone, so I hope he turns out to be our long term version of Barry Alvarez at Wiscy. Programs can definitely change as an example when I was at IU the best two chances for a conference win each year were Wisconsin and Northwestern. Hopefully Allen can sustain our rise the way Alvarez turned and kept Wiscy into a player. Allen loves it at IU and 3.9 million a year goes pretty far in southern IN :). I wonder what the magic number is to keep him long term? We might not be all that far off now.

I honestly thought that a UK player having issues in the classroom was an impossibility. Just assumed their report cards were filled out before the semester started.

It’s really a weird year with covid. Have to wonder how, or if, MSU would have responded, after starting 3-15 with 6 to’s, if Cameron was packed with students going nuts

And they were in the Elite 8 each of last two years. In the last 5 years of one and done they have a sweet 16, two elite 8’s and a national championship. Is that failure? “Only” one national championship......we are on year 37 and hoping for a 6-12 seed.

Duke should emulate IU as their strategy has clearly been an abysmal failure. I mean in the last ten years of the tourney they have only.... 2 years - year ended winning a National Championship 3 years - ended in the elite 8 ( so they made the elite eight or better 5/10 years.....pretty damn good) 2 years - year ended in sweet 16 1 year - round of 32 2 years - lost in first round 10/10 years making the tourney. I realize a lot of fans like to deride Duke when they do not get as far as advertised but man it would have been fun to have had IU be in the hunt each of the last 10 years, in the tourney all 10 years while winning 2 more nattys.

Not a small amount

Knight also thought Pat Knight was a good successor at TT ...LOL

I am stunned that posters are giving up on Howard at Michigan. This is only the beginning of his second season so lets not forget, as Scott has told us many times, that Coach K, Beilein and Bennett started out with collective three year records of 0-270. We are at least 6-8 years from being able to evaluate Howard.

I agree with you that Archie, and the team, should not be blamed for the 22 years prior to his arrival. At this point, however, I don’t think expecting/hoping for a better than 7th-9th type of finish in the conference is “instant gratification”. I’m not looking for a natty, and really like the foundation that is being built, but would like to see improvement from the BT records of 9-9, 8-12 and last years 9-11. I’m curious when you think having higher exceptions is no longer considered instant gratification? 4,5, 6, years?

I’d say that’s not a real far cry from what is going on here.....

Thanks. It’s great we landed Duncomb and looking forward to seeing him play/develop. I’m especially excited to see him play with Kaufman at IU

I looked it up and Leaf signed a guaranteed 4 year contract. The 4th year, for the 2020-2021 season, is for 4.3 million which will bring the total 4 year payout to 11,576,000. At the end of the contract he will be 23 and have earned over 11 million. Not shabby.

I don’t quite follow the point you are proving with your post (disparage the rankings ?) but...... Three the 15 players above are overseas and thus were not included in Rivals or 247 rankings.. Of the remaining 12 players 7 were 5 stars. An additional player was a high 4 star. On the other side of the coin Lillard was only a two star. In a given year roughly 500,000 males play hs basketball so roughly 100,000 are seniors. Of the 100,000 or so seniors an astronomically low 25-30 are 5 stars but 58% of the above players were 5 stars. If anything I think that speaks to how the odds (not a guarantee by any means) of 5 star players being good is pretty impressive. Back to the topic....glad we got Logan and hope we finish strong with Kaufman.

Yes, Downing is the Marian Athletic Director.

99. I agree that the Archie “brand” included a tough minded, “blue collar”, “bust your butt”, defensive, value the ball approach/culture but I (like you) would not use any of those terms to describe this, or his previous, IU teams. Still clinging to hope but those are things that are tough to turn around mid-season.

Man...I did some bad drunk dancing at the Bird back in the day.

I’m also not a fan of the one and done rule and agree with you in that I don’t want us to be built around one and dones. That being said, however, in regards to the statement “it has showed lately that teams that win the championships don’t have one and done players on them”.....actually 4 of the last 8 champions have had at least one, or more, one and dones which means teams with a “one and done” have won proportionally more recent championships (because most teams do not have a OAD) than those without.

I looked at Rivals and only 22 of the top 100 have committed. Too early to hit the panic button but I just hope that offering another 6”5-6”6” guard is not due to getting negative feedback from Galloway and Leal.

Maybe they have not impacted your life but I think that journalists that have reported on wars, helped free innocent imprisoned people, exposed financial frauds, priests, corrupt politicians, etc etc have evolved (and helped society) quite nicely from the time they learned to write in second grade. I realize that RMK was trying to be funny but I do continue to find his comment a bit ironic.

I have always found that quote to be funny/ironic. A guy that teaches people how to throw a round ball through a hoop making fun of people that chose journalism as a career.....LOL

Giving a 30 year old (31 when he can play again) that blew out his Achilles a 4 year contract at 41,000,000 a year seems awfully risky to me.