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Flight from Miami landing in Bloomington this afternoon.  Boca is less than an hour from  Miami. 

7 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

You may be right…but I think that was towards the end of the year. All I know is that he likes the mass subbing, it’s been glaring for some time now. It took us completely out of rhythm last night. 

Right or wrong / love it or hate it, Woodson’s formula seems to be the long game over the course of the season.  He’ll do hockey style in Nov/Dec (maybe trim down rotation for tougher games and the two B1G games), but by January, I’m fairly certain there will be a rotation and no longer a hockey approach.  
 

If some of these guys don’t play now, there is very little time in January going forward to get them on the court.  So he’s using these games as trial runs - aiming to have a formula for January through March. 

Obviously needs to work on defense a ton, but I would’ve thought he’d be getting 30+ minutes. 

20 minutes ago, Madison22 said:

Kansas board now using past tense.

Saying MM would not have been an important piece of their team, they didn't really need him, and there will be better wings in the portal anyway.

Ouch.

If Mackenzie hasn't made up his mind, it would be so great if he read that and said it was what convinced him to commit to Indiana.

 

You mean you don’t say the same thing?!?

“if he goes to KU, he was definitely overrated.  
 

if he comes to IU, he may be the first six star recruit in college hoops history”

that’s my general take on all of these!! Lol 

10 minutes ago, BGleas said:

This is what I keep coming back to as well. Unless Woodson and staff were able to just build a major relationship with MM and his parents, which is entirely possible, Kansas just makes sense. 

Sure, IU can offer a more featured role offensively, but at Kansas you are all but assured a top 10 ranking all season, conference title, legit shot at a conference tournament title and a top 2 seed in the Tournament. 

So many other things are equal or maybe even slightly in IU's favor, but the above is a big one IMO. 

Then why leave Duke?  More PT at Kansas, presumably?

Next year will be the first time in a while that IU doesn’t have a big man primary offense since pre-Archie.  Archie had Morgan and then TJD.  Archie also had zero guards, less Romeo, who played with a broken thumb.  
 

This sounds odd, but given what Archie did at Dayton and getting to the tourney one year with no guys over 6’6”, I don’t think TJD was the type of player he was going for.  However, being at Indiana, he had to recruit him.  If TJD were from Minnesota or something, I think it may have been different.   Archie obviously struggled at IU, but he leaned on Morgan and TJD and no guards developed under him (Devonte was hot and cold). 
 

Woodson got here and rode TJD the best he could.  TJD was all but gone last year too. 

Next year and going forward, I’m sure we’ll see a much much more modern offense and Woodson will be as good as any for that IMO.  

On 3/1/2023 at 9:38 AM, Proud2BAHoosier said:

Did you ask for a refund??? J/K

Hahaha.  I wish!    It was a great day - 60+ degrees in Bloomington that day. Can’t complain.  
 

Pound Michigan and let’s go!

On 2/28/2023 at 10:29 PM, eddy4iu said:

I'm SO SORRY to have contributed to you spending good money on that turd!  We left with over 10 minutes remaining in the game and were back in Columbus by 9:30.  Have NEVER left a game that early before but the writing was SO MUCH on the wall that we didn't risk missing a monumental comeback victory.  Just hope we don't repeat the "performance" Sunday and have to endure such a LONG 50 minute drive back to Columbus after a loss.  Color me concerned.

Ha.  All good my friend.   
 

I expect IU to dismantle Michigan 

8 hours ago, eddy4iu said:

A couple center-court Row 30 aisle seats posted on the ticket forum a bit ago if you haven't already gotten a pair.

Thanks. Ended up getting them.  Rough one

Thank you!

I apologize in advance if this is not the place for this, but anyone selling or know anyone selling two tix for Iowa game?   Thanks!

TJD, Galloway, and JHS were spectacular tonight, but how Geronimo has filled in for Race these last two games has changed the dynamic of this team.  He was struggling early and has taken an absolute 180.   I love Race and appreciate all he’s done, but JG is playing well for him right now.  IU could really use X back. 

9 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

That Trayce is a bad mother…shut your mouth 😝

Hey man I’m just talking about dirty Trayce!

21 hours ago, Bustout said:

Heard Mayer is hurt for Illini too.  Possibly season-ending.  Brutal. 

Ahh.  Bad source!  Was just passing along. 

Heard Mayer is hurt for Illini too.  Possibly season-ending.  Brutal. 

21 minutes ago, Boiler Sam said:

UT will set their sights much higher than Underwood. He might be a fallback plan. 

Agree.  I’m sure they’ll contact guys like Jay Wright and Donovan and everyone basically.  They have a lot of time. 

13 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said:

With the new NIL game, going forward, how good of a job is Texas?  Gotta be a top 10 or better.  Literally unlimited resources.  

And at those mega football schools - a lot less pressure on b-ball.  Like O$U. 

19 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

Underwood turned Ayo into a 3rd year 2nd rounder after 3 years. Billy D turned him into an all pro rookie team in 6 months. That's coaching. Underwood couldn't beat a Loyola team with Ayo and Kofi.....and hasn't sent one kid to the first round in his 5-6 years at Illinois. That's coaching.

Why would Texas be interested in that? Shoot Tom Crean would make so much more sense....at least he's won, won conference championships, been to a Final 4 and sent countless kids to the league.

Underwood made a name for himself in the state.  Not sure if there will be mutual interest,  but I would think Underwood would definitely consider it and big ten b-ball/officiating sucks. 

4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

Wouldn't touch this one with a 10 foot pole unless the kid and those around him make some major changes. With that said from what I was told there might be others either shortly or definitely at seasons end. 

Something seems up with Illini locker room.  Possible underwood lost it.  
 

no veterans who came up through the system.  Best/oldest player is a portal guy.   He and Hawkins are allegedly oil and water.  
 

his coaching style requires a kid who can handle/want that.  When things get tough, previously, they would look up to Frasier, ayo, and Kofi.  But those type of guys aren’t there.   
 

with that said, one win can change everything. They were playing like a top 5 team at one point.  
 

Wouldn’t surprise me if Underwood seeks the Texas job. 

19 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Pickell would be a coach I would look at when Wooodson retires 

He’s one of the best in the country.  With that said, it almost seems it’s Michael Lewis to lose at this point. 

Back on market

15 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Yeah, I think they have been playing the 4/1 with Race out to a point...And I think a lot of people on here with much more Xs and Os knowledge than I have think Race needs to take the 3 shot when he gets it,,,And I agree...He just seems more effective when he gets it in rhythm and shoots it...First hesitation, pass it off...

I think playing all 5 out with Trayce on the floor not only takes away probably our best scoring option, but takes away some second chance buckets as well...

I saw 2 teams, Michigan and Penn State, do a little of both 4/1 (both) and 5 out (PSU) last night...Makes for some interesting basketball...Penn State would play 5 out and have Jalen Pickett back his man down and score...and he's only 6'4...But he's really good at it...Not sure we have that on our roster...Yet

And Michigan has the athletes I think Woody would love to have...6'5-6'8 guys that have length and can shoot it...Dickinson is pretty good in that offense too...Can't afford to leave Jett Howard, Bufkin, or Joey Baker on the perimeter, so Hunter doesn't get doubled like Trayce does...

Gotcha.   Hopefully we drill some early threes and force them not to double. 

1 hour ago, IUFLA said:

3 reasons...

Backcourt depth... Right now we're operating with 3 heathy guards and only 2 of those have any Big 10 experience. I guess we could put Gunn in the rotation, but he's unproven..

A lot of Big 10 teams would kill us offensively. Iowa in particular. Who would guard Kris Murray? Kopp? I don't think that'd be a good matchup for us. Penn State might be a team we can get away with it, because that's basically what they do... But they also shoot the 3 better than we do, and at a higher volume. 

Lastly, Coach Woodson is very consistent in his thinking. We're an inside out team. He's not gonna go to Trayce, Kopp and 3 guards unless he is forced. He's gonna get Malik and Geronimo minutes, either together or with Race or Trayce on the floor.

We're 10-3 and lost to good teams... Let's see if the slight adjustment putting Tamar in the starting lineup works before we change our whole strategy... 

Thanks!  Makes sense.  
 

Would they play 4/1 and keep Race on the perimeter?  Or keep all 5 out with Race and TJD?   

Finally - I agree. All the losses were to good teams. 

On 1/3/2023 at 6:56 PM, IUFLA said:

I just reread your post...

I don't think Coach Woodson has any intention of going true 4 out, 1 in... Some combination of Race/Trayce/Malik/Geronimo are going to be out there for close to 40 minutes...

We may have seen it vs Kennesaw State, but I don't think we'll see it in Big 10 play... 

Interesting.  I felt like when they went to the five out, everything opened up and started flowing nicely and less clogging.  
 

why don’t you think we’ll see it in B1G play?  As people noted, it’s easy to pack the defense (especially with one or two IU guys in there) and just let IU shoot ala Rutgers.  
 

I was personally encouraged by that 5 out or 4/1 offense and was hoping to see a lot more of it tonight and going forward.   Or maybe if IU has a lead and is scoring their traditional way or scoring in transition, that 5 out will just be something used vs specific defense or if they are trailing.  
 

but just curious why you think we may not see it?  Thanks!  Go IU!

SIAP, but only complaint personally last night is I would’ve loved to see Gunn get a few minutes in the first half after all of those fouls were being called!     
 

Phenomenal game.  Go get Rutgers.