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  1. 6 hours ago, slojoe said:

    JHS a CG and a very capable PG.  For very short periods of time Galloway would be satisfactory as PG.

    Given Woodys two unit approach, if JHS starts, I think IU still has a question mark as another PG.   TG could fill it for a bit and JHS if he’s in, but this is where Rob was perfect last year.    
     

    And agree - shooting will still be the reason IU loses games. 

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  2. 15 hours ago, Hoosier4Life53 said:

    I like it, with Geronimo, Reneau, Banks, Galloway, Gunn and Kopp off the bench!

     

    Agree on the starters being X, JHS, TB, RT and TJD. This second unit brings experience and depth too. 
     

    Only overall holes I see are perimeter shooting (hoping guys improve from last year) and a backup PG.  Would Leal play any PG?  He did his freshman year. 

  3. 10 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said:

    I think we see some restrictions put back on transfers with NIL being what it is, and I wouldn’t disagree. I think transfers without a sit-out year should be limited to graduating seniors playing a 5th year, coaching changes or other extenuating circumstances that would require an exception. 

    I’m on board with portal restrictions too. Like you can’t just leave just because without at least sitting a year. But If your coach gets fired, should you need to sit out?   Also, I feel for Dawson Garcia and there should probably be medical waivers, but he’s on his third school in 3 years.  

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  4. I posted this on another site and I may be in the minority here, but I actually think NIL is good for college basketball on-court product.  I used to always complaint that we’d never see another Patrick Ewing or someone play 3-4 years in college.  
     

    But now, the NIL is actually keeping pretty good guys in college. Prior to this, kids were considering G league or Europe or hoping to be a free agent if they didn’t get drafted. Now, more kids will be playing in the NCAA and should make the teams stronger. 

    This should help college b-ball as the talent pool is bigger and retained. Off the court, it’s free agency … but was it before too? 

    my only current complaint is the portal. And it’s complicated to try and fix it. A lot of scenarios. But they could start with some general parameters.

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  5. 10 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

    Yeah, either way it is telling a guy that you don't have a scholarship for them.  I think that is an easier sell with someone on the team then someone who isn't.

    Agree. And the extra COVID year didn’t help that.   
     

    This upcoming year, specifically given IUs situation, is unique.  They very well could make a F4 run with some roster tinkering.  These two new kids could certainly contribute too … so it’s a bit of an easier sell - than say L$U who had 13 open scholarships!

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  6. 8 minutes ago, btownqb said:

    At this point, I think it's just called transferring, since the entire country is having kids leave at a much higher rate then Crean ever did. 

    I think Creaning is more about oversigning with little clue how to manage a roster and fabricate a story that your player cheated on a summer school test …. (I think that’s how story goes)

  7. 1 hour ago, IUCrazy2 said:

    Because that company values you as part of the team and doesn't want to be in the spot where the team has to choose between 2 players.  And let's be real end of the bench guy, if the choice is you and pre-season All American candidate, you are going to be looking to transfer to a place that is very likely not a high D1 program.

    That is harsh as heck, but don't ask questions you don't want the answer to.  This is not amateur ball anymore.  It is some mutated hybrid of the pros and college ball.

    Most schools have about 17-18 kids anyway correct?  With 13 scholarships.   
     

    Instead of Creaning someone, this NIL could be used to attract the two kids visiting this week and get them on the roster.   
     

    As someone mentioned earlier, the COVID season has caused a crunch at a lot of schools and 14 scholarships would’ve been a good resolution for a year or two … but that would be asking the NCAA to do something right.  

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  8. 50 minutes ago, Euroclydon said:

    The NIL seems destined to blow up at some point. Big programs with deep pocket donors will eventually make it untenable. Then what? Salary cap? And where is title 9 in all this? Will a young lady on the tennis team need a Porsche and million dollars to prevent her from suing everyone? 

    The NCAA lost control and there is no getting the tooth paste back in the tube. The days of the NCAA as an institution seem destined to end in a fiery legal barrage. Then NCAA basketball as we know it will end. Where there is no vision, the people perish.

     

     

    The NCAA couldn’t enforce any cheating rules consistently to save their lives, so NIL basically was a gateway for them not to have an enforcement department - and pay kids.  

  9. 46 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

    Player A and Player B both get a $50,000 NIL deal.  Player A has a scholly.  Player B does not.  

    Which player is likely to be happier with their situation?

    Would player B sacrifice $50k to play on a potential final 4 team?

    A kid like Dennis. Opportunity to play for Woodson (NBA connections) and a very good IU team may just take the NIL money as his scholarship just for his last run in college hoops.  Like they say, you have the rest of your life to make money - not many better situations than IU right now - assuming you’re still playing for free one way or another. 

  10. Let’s say one or both of these visitors commit this week.  Instead of paying for their scholarship and forcing kids out, could they be considered walk-ons … while IU works an NIL deal for them?   
     

    I don’t know any of the rules on NIL, but is that a potential loophole?

    Sorry if already brought up!

  11. 7 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said:

    All due respect, Bustout….I definitely don’t like talk of pushing a hometown player like Leal out. Leal loves IU and has stated the fact. I get that this is a message board with the freedom of opinion, but as far as I’m concerned he’s a lock to graduate a Hoosier! 

    I wouldn’t want either he or Kopp to leave.  I could see Kopp getting Creaned and Leal, IF he actually wanted to play, leaving on his own merit.   He’s going to consistently get recruited over.  We all love these kids - but Coach Woodson wants a banner and if it means improving his roster, he’ll do it when/where he can.  It’s the nature of this. 

  12. 42 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said:

    this is super exciting!  i think it has to mean TJD or JG are not coming back.  my thought is TJD bc it's hard to see Reneau not starting.  either way, such an exciting talent boost!  

    I know absolutely nothing, but curious if Kopp would be Creaned?  Also - highly doubtful, but would Leal consider a place like Ball State where he’d actually play?

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  13. 6 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said:

    Or just don't read it, it was just a couple of post with people talking respectfully back and forth. Almost every single thread on these forums and most every forum get sidetracked a little bit.

    Not to mention, some of the other boards are just super toxic.   It’s slower times right now … off-season … we’re just chatting it up a bit 

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  14. 22 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

    In his first year, CAM was hamstrung because he had to keep players due to grade issues. Couldn’t fully recruit a class. He brought in Romeo, TJD, Geronimo and Galloway… all players who we have in the past or currently want to build our team around. Yes, there have been some misses, but they certainty aren’t flops. With all the resources every NFL team can draw upon, ever look at the statistics on how many draft picks don’t pan out?

     I know his tenure wasn’t overwhelming but really tired of the constant bashing of CAM every chance some folks get 

    One thing I’ll always wonder about Archie is, would things be different had he not had big men be the focus of his offense?   He had success at Dayton with not many big men.  
     

    At IU, he had Morgan which he inherited.  He had a broken Romeo for a year and then TJD.  I feel, had TJD not been from Indiana, he wouldn’t have recruited him that much.  College b-ball is so guard focused obviously and he had success with guard heavy teams.  
     

    now, you can equally argue that if you can’t win with an all American big man, you probably shouldn’t be coaching IU.   But I’ll always wonder, if he had more guard focused teams, opposed to the big man he ultimately had on his roster (which is his doing anyway), if he would’ve had more success.  He made his own bed, but seems he may have changed his ways a bit at IU. 

  15. 21 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said:

    In his first year, CAM was hamstrung because he had to keep players due to grade issues. Couldn’t fully recruit a class. He brought in Romeo, TJD, Geronimo and Galloway… all players who we have in the past or currently want to build our team around. Yes, there have been some misses, but they certainty aren’t flops. With all the resources every NFL team can draw upon, ever look at the statistics on how many draft picks don’t pan out?

     I know his tenure wasn’t overwhelming but really tired of the constant bashing of CAM every chance some folks get 

    I’m with you.  Also crazy to think, if McKinley Wright were able to come to IU, could’ve changed the course on everything.  There’s still debate that Archie didn’t want him at IU … but as you alluded, I’m convinced he was handcuffed with that. 

  16. 34 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

    I was just looking back through past classes to see where guys were ranked, trying to figure out how many top 75 guys may be in our rotation next year....

    I honestly don't think I realized just how putrid our recruiting was under Archie. The only guy who played all four years for Archie was Al Durham, and he was a Crean commit and ranked 230. 

    That’s 100% what killed Archie.  He still knows the game and can coach - but I get the sense he thought IU would recruit itself along with his reputation at the time.   When it started going south, he hired Kenya.   
     

    He got Lander, TJD, and Romeo.  Romeo sort of fell into their lap with the Adidas stuff.  TJD, I’m not positive, probably would’ve come to IU no matter what.  All 5 stars - from Indiana. 
     

    His recruiting out of the state turned out to be weak (less JG and Race).  But by the time he left, it was no longer an attractive product nationally (particularly on offense).  
     

    Hopefully the tides are turning. 

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  17. 4 hours ago, DunkinDipo said:

    I did too! He was part of my 1a and 1b along with Beard after the Stevens debacle. With Musselman probably being the best realistic option. Woodson might do great and I hope he does but he was definitely more of a risk than hiring Musselman imo...especially since he also has NBA ties and has coached at all levels. I think we really missed a good one here but what else is new

    I was on the Muss bus too.  My only concern was he would go back to NBA. This is woodys last stop.  Right the ship.   Then call the new HC in Muncie (unless Stevens decides it’s time!!  Ha).  

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