Jump to content

go_iu_bb

Members
  • Posts

    2,007
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by go_iu_bb

  1. 2 hours ago, NCHoosier32 said:

    not the place for this, but i didn't want to start a thread for it and don't follow IU football, but... one of my students just got an offer from IU football.  i'm willing to bet money he ends up at either GA or AL, but still kinda cool.  

    He must be pretty good if that's where you think he'll land.

    • Thanks 1
  2. 11 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

    Shannon’s TRO seems like a hail Mary and longshot.  He has to show likelihood of success in court on the merits of the case.  That seems far fetched if you read the affidavit.  She has no history with him or axe to grind.  Her facts are very detailed.   It’s a tough read.  

    Women unfortunately do make false claims.  But in this situation it’s hard to find a hint of it.  No money grab, jealousy motives, scorned female, etc.   She has literally zero reason to make this up. 

    It's confusing to me why he would even do this. For sake of argument, let's say he wins and the court forces him out of suspension. Does the court also require that he starts and/or plays a certain amount of minutes? Just because he wouldn't be suspended doesn't mean they have to play him. Whether Underwood has enough integrity to sit him if he's available, I don't know, but if he does then this doesn't really get Shannon playing basketball again any time soon.

    • Like 1
  3. One of the concerns from some people when Woodson was hired was if he would listen to advice from others who knew the college game. It had been reported that he could be very stubborn and ignore assistant coaches. Whether the assistant coaches are telling him that they should do things differently and he's ignoring them, I don't know. What is clear is that the concern that he might be too stubborn to adapt to the college game seems pretty legitimate. 

    • Sad 1
  4. 12 minutes ago, KoB2011 said:

    Comparing the track record of Jim Harbaugh before Michigan and Mike Woodson before Indiana is comically different. Harbaugh didn't have "some success" - Harbaugh had established himself as one of the best coaches at any level of football from his results on the field at both levels.

     

    Yes, which means that there was reason based on past performance that Harbaugh would get it right eventually. That isn't true for Woodson.

    I would also add that Harbaugh's early success at UM was better than Woodson's at IU.

    I doubt that during the rough times Harbaugh was posting pictures of himself sitting around drinking wine and smoking cigars with his buddies after a loss.

  5. 41 minutes ago, Maedhros said:

    Meh. He was indoors, hanging with friends while his family was out of town. Sounds perfectly normal to me. Not like he was bar hopping or out driving around at that hour.

    We often had all night get togethers when all the high school friends were back home on college break. When alcohol was involved, everyone was even required to stay overnight, instead of driving home. There's been no mention of alcohol reported with this incident, nor any other reason to think Jeremy was engaging in risky behavior. Let the kid hang with his friends.

    No doubt. Being up at 4 AM was not uncommon for me and my friends in college. 

  6. 4 minutes ago, IUJoe said:

    Understand what you’re saying, but I also don’t think there’s anybody who has ever coached that could take a school the level of Florida Atlantic on deep tournament runs and 35 win seasons every year.  But certainly would love to see him sustain a reasonable level of success.

    I'm sure people said that about Gonzaga, too. It doesn't have to be that type of sustained success but at least at the top of their league instead of middle of the pack.

    • Like 1
  7. 10 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

    Dusty May = the next Brad Stevens.  Hopefully he doesn’t get fully away the same way.  

    Ideally he moves to a stepping stone job where we can still get him.  Although it’s scary, somebody like Michigan could jump on him.  

    If he does get hired elsewhere, just sell him on being IU's Roy Williams.

    That said, I want to see a few more seasons of sustained success before anointing him as the next Brad Stevens. He had a great season and NCAA run last year and his team looks good so far this year but can he sustain it? 

  8. 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

    I just don't understand why some fans can't just enjoy the ride instead vof only looking at the destination. Just enjoy every twist and turn the season provide and worry about the destination when you get there. I know it isn't easy to do but for me I want to enjoy the whole season because the season will be over before we know it.

    You're often critical of the discussions on message boards and the fan base in general. Why do you come to the boards? Think about that answer and then realize it might not be the same for everyone. Also remember that even most (I won't say all) of the critical posters want the same thing that you do: for IU to win lots of games as well as both conference and national championships.

    • Like 5
  9. 35 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

    I just hope the kid can return to walking normally. He had a misdiagnosis of the original injury in April '22. He played on the injured knee, which shouldn't have happened. He then had microfracture surgery in August. I'll leave that to the physicians regarding his long term health, but it doesn't have a good history for basketball players.

    “The early results of microfracture seemed to be promising, particularly in young patients,” Dr. Wiemi Douoguih, the head team doctor for the Wizards, said in a phone interview. “And so everybody sort of jumped on the bandwagon to say, ‘Hey, this is what we are going to do to fix this problem.’”

    Now, many doctors are trending away from the surgery. According to data kept by the sports medicine and analytics research team (SMART), 14 players had microfracture surgery between 2003 and 2010, including Stoudemire. For many of the players who underwent microfracture surgery, the procedure hastened the end of their career. Penny Hardaway, Chris Webber, Allan Houston and Ron Harper were never the same. Since 2010, only five players have had it.

    A 2018 study found that the failure rate of microfracture surgery was 66 percent, compared with 51 percent in patients that had OAT surgery — a procedure in which cartilage is transplanted from a cadaver or another joint in the body. The study defined failure as scoring less than 65 on the Lysholm scale, which measures a patient’s pain, instability, locking, swelling, limp, stair climbing and squatting. This was one of the first studies to compare the two procedures.

    “I get calls all the time from players who are recommended (to have) the microfracture,” Stoudemire said. “I just tell them, ‘Listen, man, I was able to bounce back from it, but not everyone can. It’s an excruciating recovery.’ I told the same thing to Chandler Parsons when he was in Dallas. Getting the microfracture is one thing, but the recovery is another. It takes dedication, focus and a lot of perseverance to get over that hump.”

     

    Stoudemire’s experience is hardly unique. Of the 23 NBA players who have had microfracture surgery since 2003, nine needed to have an additional knee surgery. Five of those went on to have multiple knee surgeries.

    The medical community, in turn, has responded to that track record and advised players to seek alternatives.
     
    “I don’t think anyone in 2014 would advise Greg Oden to get microfracture if he had the same issues he showed back then,” one NBA team doctor, who asked to remain anonymous because he was discussing another team’s player, said. “The thinking has changed. It is still a good surgery in some cases, but not for high-level athletes.”
     
    “Microfracture surgery, we call those salvage procedures,” said Dr. Timothy Hewett of Ohio State’s Sports Health and Performance Institute. “Cartilage holds a lot of water and, in that sense, it is a great shock absorber. Fibrocartilage or scar tissue does not do that, it does not dissipate the force as well. … Microfracture had its day, and in some situations it is still relevant.

    "But with high-level athletes, returning to their sport, these guys have high body mass, they are landing in the range of four to 10 times their body weight—fibrocartilage, the scar cartilage, is not going to hold up in that situation.”

    One doctor estimates that there is a return-to-sport rate of only about 40 percent with microfracture, and a study published last year in the Orthopedic Journal of Sports showed that NBA players show significantly reduced production after the surgery.

     

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/bulls/ct-spt-nba-microfracture-surgery-amare-stoudemire-20180706-story.html

     

    Man, I feel for the guy. Bad doctors and bad advice might have derailed his career before it even began.

×
×
  • Create New...