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The knee-jerk reaction is Alford, because this year's team desperately needs outside shooting. But, the reality is that not one single player could make this year's team a championship one. It would take at least 2, but more likely 3, Probably both need to be shooters. Alford and who? May and Watford can both shoot, but would have trouble guarding the wing (assuming both Race and Trayce still start). Oladipo is absolutely dynamic, but isn't a good enough shooter to stop teams from sagging down to help on TJD, and with just one shooter on the floor, how many open looks would Alford get?

Scott. I try to help you out when you make a really good post (my post quoted above), and then you blow it all up with a different one (your post quoted above). I'll give you this year's team, but if you can't find room on the roster for at least one of Oladipo, Watford, or Zeller, your 80's bias is too strong.

In hindsight, maybe I should have went with the '02 team instead of one of the teams from the '80's. That would have pulled in a different generation and would have added some variety to the backcourt since both IT and Alford are automatic picks.

Folks. Even of you don't usually listen to what Scott says, read his sentence I quoted. Those aren't point totals for the first 6 games of the year against cupcakes. Those are point totals from the NCAA tournament for a team that basically played 7.5 guys a game. It was with a shot clock. It was with a 3-point shot (admittedly a shorter one than exists today). When Scott talks about the game being better in the 80's, this is the type of thing he's alluding to. His point has merit on many levels. Doesn't mean that style would work today. But, it was a darn good form of basketball to watch. But, yes, I agree with those that say the games was less interesting without the shot clock or 3-point shot. But, 1987 had both of those.

Buckner left twice?

Yep. Interesting that Benson, a 2 time All-American and NBA #1 overall pick is not making many rosters, and I'm not sure he's been listed as a starter in any. Part of that is the rules are forcing people towards TJD, but still.

You gotcha some shooters. Alford, May, Wittman, and Watford would be lethal, especially with IT running the point. You're going to have to play IT heavy minutes though.

100% agree on Watford. After I. Thomas and Alford, Watford was the easiest roster spot for me to pick. Unfortunately, since I was going to pick Race from this year's team, Watford has to come off the bench for me.

You have 2 starters from the '81 team and none from this year's team. Every team listed must have 1 player in the starting lineup. And, you just can't switch out Turner for TJD. TJD has to play the 5.

You have 3 guys from '12-'13 (Oladipo, Zeller, and Watford). Limit of 2 per players from each one of the 5 teams).

Keep in mind that I did ask the mods to create an 'Over 35 Only' forum and they refused.

2 player limit per team. You have Abernathy, May, and Wilkerson from '76.

'12-'13 did have 2 of the top 4 draft picks in the NBA, as well as an invaluable shooter at the 4 position that I predict will end up on 75%+ of these rosters.

True. And, yes, your interpretation of the rules is correct.

5 starters so 5 roster. '3 championship teams and this year's team. See explanation in my response to @GaloisGroupeabove.

TJD and Zeller both can't be in the starting lineup. They are both listed at the '5'. And, with the 2 player limit, you can't have Dipo, Zeller, Watford, and Yogi all on the roster. I didn't choose '92-'93 because I wanted to have a little more recency with the '12-'13 team. The overall exercise was to integrate someone from this team year's team onto a Championship caliber roster.

It says a lot about the '12-'13 team that I was actively looking for ways to get Ferrell, Oladipo, Watford, and Zeller on my team.

One of the rules is that your starters must play 25+ minutes. Keep that in mind.

In reviewing my team, my defense at the wing positions is quite poor. I expect all of you can do better than I did.

Race seems to get where he wants to be a lot more often and effectively than TJD does. You raise a valid point regarding the defender. But, taking advantage of the situation in front of you is a measurement of effectiveness.

I struggled getting enough shooters on my team. I originally had Buckner and Oladipo on my roster as well, but ended up having to drop both to get May on the roster.

Here would be my roster. it's harder than I thought it would be, and when I analyze it more, I may change my mind. 1) I. Thomas 2) Alford 3) May 4) Thompson 5) Zeller B) Smart B) Watford B) Benson

A lot of lineup discussions with this team, Thought it might be fun to try to take the players from this year's team and integrate them into a lineup made up from players in IU's Past. Here are your rules Select an 8-man rotation from the starting rosters of the 5 IU teams below Your team will consist of 5 starters and 3 bench players. Positions matter for the starters. The number by the player's name below represents their spot in the starting lineup Every IU roster below must be represented on your team. No more than 2 players can be selected from any of the teams As a coach, you are committed to playing all starters 25+ minutes You must select at least one STARTER from each of the 5 teams below. Yes, that means someone from this year's team starts Rosters were determined by who started the most. For example, Turner started more than J. Thomas in '81 Not required, but If you want to offer an explanation on how you put your team together, it would add to the discussion Remember, your starting lineup can only have one starter from each team and starters cannot be shifted off their designated position Edit: I didn't pick '92-'93 because I wanted an additional 'recent' team in the mix. Hence '-12-'13. The 3 champions and this year's rosters are at the core of the exercise. '75-'76 Roster 1) Buckner 2) Wilkerson 3) May 4) Abernathy 5 Benson '80-'81 Roster 1) I. Thomas 2) Wittman 3) Kitchell 4) Turner 5) Tolbert '86-'87 Roster 1) Smart 2) Alford 3) Calloway 4) D. Thomas 5) Garrett '12-'13 Roster 1) Ferrell 2) Hulls 3) Oladipo 4) Watford 5) Zeller '21-'22 Roster 1) X. Johnson 2) Stewart 3) Kopp 4) Thompson 5) Jackson-Davis

Race is a more effective scorer down low than TJD.

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