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2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Shots fired before 730AM.. I love it! 

Nah, I’m not blaming him for it, just passing along facts.

If someone is offering Essegian a starting spot, I’d bet money he’s taking it.  That’s how he’s been since he chose his school as a high school freshman.

11 hours ago, dgambill said:

I think we’ve all seen how conferences can manipulate the analytics with their scheduling. I’ll leave it at that because I think Rice is a huge upgrade over XJ…this is a good first step.

At the end of the day, the metrics measure what they measure.  So, the way to improve your team's metrics is with on-the-court performance, no matter who you play.  That being said, if you know your strengths and weakness as a coach, there are ways to cater your schedule a little to improve your team's performance measures.  For instance, coaches who routinely blow out weak teams but often struggle against elite competition (e.g., Nate Oates, Bruce Pearl, Tommy Lloyd) should schedule more cupcakes, while coaches who find it difficult to get their team ready to play against weaker teams but excel against elite competition (e.g., Tom Izzo, Bill Self, John Calipari) should play more elite teams.

2 hours ago, dgambill said:

I’m not trying to say analytics don’t matter but when you aren’t playing a similar schedule or opponents…well it’s not apples to apples. We played a much superior schedule. It ranked 29th vs 77th for Washington St. anyway my point is he will need to step up to both the offensive and defensive side of the ball coming to the B1G. I’m sure he can do it…but we all know the style of basketball from West coast to B1G is night and day.

The efficiency rankings aren’t just raw rankings.  Defensive efficiency metrics are adjusted for the strength and efficiency of offenses you face.

1 hour ago, DC2345 said:

This isn’t the first time things like this have been said the last few weeks fwiw. Nothing will happen this year but the talk of Stevens returning to college in the near future has picked up recently.

I heard talk earlier this year that if the Celtics win the championship he'll look to get back into coaching.

Show me a fan base that think titles don’t matter, and I’ll show you a fan base that doesn’t have any.

9 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said:

Doesn’t happen every game. 

Right.  It only happens *almost* every game.

2 minutes ago, ledies22 said:

so first available. good not great. got it.

You know we have 6 open scholarships, right?  And we have probably 2 open starting positions at most, point guard and shooting guard.  If you think we’re getting 6 “great” players to come in for 2 starting spots, you probably don’t understand this stuff very well.

1 hour ago, ledies22 said:

what do you want? them to take the first 6 available?

If there is someone good available now, I want them to take them, rather than slow play a kid who would probably come now.  That seems to be more productive than chasing someone “better” who they won’t get anyway.

1 hour ago, DC2345 said:

IU gave some BS excuse. I’m guessing they’re slow playing him to see if they get in a good spot with any other guards during the dead period. 

In other words, the same method that got them a 1 man recruiting class and 6 open scholarships.

4 hours ago, DunkinDipo said:

So I live in the Louisville area and what's happening at UofL is comical. They whiffed on Drew last week and he basically publicly bashed the program and the fans, then went all in on Dusty May only to lose out to Michigan. Yesterday the rumors were swirling with Richard Pitino (wtf) and now today it appears it's a done deal with Pat Kelsey. Apparently they offered the position to Josh Schertz after May but then found out he had already signed a memorandum of understanding to be the next head coach at Saint Louis because he thought he was out of the running at Louisville. You can't make this stuff up. So Kelsey is at minimum their 4th choice and all of this is public. It's good to know that the IU administration isn't the only clown show in town! 😂

It’s funny, though, that the narrative when they started their search was, “Louisville has a great administration now and they’ll make a home run hire this time.”

27 minutes ago, ForHumanity said:

How many Indiana kids will be wearing the Blue and Maize?

Several, especially from NE Indiana where many are already Michigan fans

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

 

from hearing about the Pacers Lakers game the other night, I'm not sure. 

How about if Iowa women played Purdue men

3 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said:

 

But what recruits do we have coming in for next season? Also no one this year proved they were really ready to replace Scalia or Holmes. I understand Holmes backup isn’t terrible but there isn’t much parity in the womens game so if you want to keep advancing beyond sweet 16 you have to bring in some top experienced players. Kentucky is a perfect example. 

Players improve from year to year in this program, so returning players will be better next year than they are this year.

41 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

Agree. I was thinking this a month or two ago that we were probably a step slow at most positions.   Leads to having a slower team overall in terms of team quickness.  Probably a function of emphasizing size.  I think team quickness is a big area of need for us.  I think it was a big reason why our defense was so bad.  
 

While we’re certainly not overly athletic, it becomes a bigger weakness than it needs to be when combined with our lack of intensity.

5 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said:

disagree.  Good programs aren't exicting when their NBA bound player is coming back.  We celebrate bench level players.  because that is how badly we're constructed at the time.  We can be better.  We should be better.

This is the Malik Reneau thread.  Nobody’s celebrating a bench player coming back.  Any program would celebrate him coming back, and many would have tried to get him if he had gone into the portal.

14 minutes ago, Hoosier82 said:

Pretty sad that IU fans are in the position of celebrating guys not transferring…but here we are

No different than any other program on that front.

11 hours ago, Between2Halls said:

I hope this one. 
 

Can he shoot?

54 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said:

 

“I think the analytics are bulls—,” Providence head coach Kim English told reporters after his squad was ruled out. “I think you could schedule bad teams in your non-league and beat the snot out of them and beat them by 50 and 60. I think coaching for so long has been a gentleman agreement. I mean, you have a large lead at the end of the game, for health reasons you take guys out, to get some other guys opportunities to play, you take guys out. “

“But right now might be a change in college basketball. We’re scheduling to beat teams by 40 and 50. [It] might be a thing to do, but when you get into this league, the analytics aren’t going to look very good in league. You’re playing against some really, really good coaches.”

I wonder if anybody can point to 1 game out of the approximately 5,600 games between Division 1 teams (the only games the NET contemplates) where a team didn’t “take guys out” before the end of a “50” and “60” point game.

1 hour ago, IUwins0708 said:

You are on an Indiana Message board, you realize this don’t you? 🤦‍♂️

He's probably never been on a message board that doesn't talk about Indiana more than Purdue, so it's all the same to him.

1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

What did I say that wasn't a fact

1) they moved to he closer to Indy

2) most G league teams are moving to the apparent teams city.

 

Neither one of those things are facts, chief.  I’ve already explained the first.  As to the second, there are currently G League teams in Des Moines, Birmingham, Austin, Mexico City, Wilmington, Greensboro, Southaven, and that’s just off the top of my head.  None of those are near NBA cities.  So you have no idea what you’re talking about on either point.

Just now, IU Scott said:

Most of the G league teams are being moved to the same city as their apparent club, that is what I understand.

lol.  Ok.  I’ll note not to confuse you with facts in the future.

22 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

They did it so it is easier to bring players up to the Pacers if they are already in the same city. Guys like Walker and Shepard has played for the G league during the afternoon and the Pacers that night 

I noticed you laughed at my response to this comment.  Scott, the Pacers were pushing for a downtown arena in Fort Wayne for several years.  The distance between Fort Wayne and Indianapolis clearly wasn’t a problem while they were pushing for an arena here.  It only became a problem when FW wouldn’t build them an arena.  Surely you can understand that, right?

15 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

They did it so it is easier to bring players up to the Pacers if they are already in the same city. Guys like Walker and Shepard has played for the G league during the afternoon and the Pacers that night 

No, they did it because they didn’t get their government subsidized arena in Fort Wayne.  Everybody involved with the team in Fort Wayne knows that.

4 minutes ago, MrsStoller said:

I’m from Indy but moved to the NE Indiana/Fort Wayne area several years ago. I saw nothing but a 75-80% empty arena when the Mad Ants would play, and that’s being generous. No offense, but I didn’t get the sense they were valued very much up here. Now if we talk hockey, if the Komets ever left, that would be a major kick in the shin to FW.

No G League team draws many fans.  It’s not a great product.  That being said, it was very well supported by some pretty influential people up here.  The local community put a lot more effort into it than the Pacers did.  And you don’t build goodwill by taking a community asset away from the second biggest city in the state just because you want to cry about the government not building you a downtown arena that you wouldn’t have to share with the hockey team.