milehiiu Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 I never get a flu shot. And never get the flu. Despite the fact that my wife gets a flu shot every year.... and winds up with the flu... most every year. What have been you experiencing.... considering this has been a bad year for the flu ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Researchers take step towards a better flu vaccine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 27 minutes ago, milehiiu said: I never get a flu shot. And never get the flu. Despite the fact that my wife gets a flu shot every year.... and winds up with the flu... most every year. What have been you experiencing.... considering this has been a bad year for the flu ? We usually get one every year for the past several years and we haven't gotten the flu. We did not get one this year...and also have not gotten the flu (knocks on wood). When your wife gets the flu is it a mild case? Supposedly, it is not as bad if you get the vaccine, but I always wondered about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted January 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: We usually get one every year for the past several years and we haven't gotten the flu. We did not get one this year...and also have not gotten the flu (knocks on wood). When your wife gets the flu is it a mild case? Supposedly, it is not as bad if you get the vaccine, but I always wondered about that. Yes. Most often, when my wife gets the flu after a shot.... it is not that bad. My son ( who is in his early 30's) got a shot this year, on the advice of his doctor. He is contact with the public, much more than my wife, and especially me.... and so far he has not gotten the flu. I certainly would be in favor of a flu shot, if I knew it was 100% effective for all, much like the polio shot. However, in this case, I am not convinced they have a full proof flu shot. I am hesitant in injected into my body a toxin that actually could be the cause of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted January 19, 2018 Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 Just now, milehiiu said: Yes. Most often, when my wife gets the flu after a shot.... it is not that bad. My son ( who is in his early 30's) got a shot this year, on the advice of his doctor. He is contact with the public, much more than my wife, and especially me.... and so far he has not gotten the flu. I certainly would be in favor of a flu shot, if I knew it was 100% effective for all, much like the polio shot. However, in this case, I am not convinced they have a full proof flu shot. I am hesitant in injected into my body a toxin that actually could be the cause of a problem. I started getting the vaccine on the advice of my friends wife, who is a pharmacist. She thought we were crazy for not getting one before...especially when we were both teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted January 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: I started getting the vaccine on the advice of my friends wife, who is a pharmacist. She thought we were crazy for not getting one before...especially when we were both teaching. I suppose it may be good advice to get a flu shot, for people in contact with the public. For years, I was in contact with the public... and never got a flu shot. And never got the flu. So, I suspect, a lot could do with genetics, as I never recall my parents, ever.... suffering with the flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd726 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Have to if I want my job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 have to for Ayden's health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 I do not. There's no telling what they're actually injecting you with, and like you Mile, there's no fool proof way to prevent the flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoagieRoll Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 On 1/18/2018 at 7:31 PM, milehiiu said: I suppose it may be good advice to get a flu shot, for people in contact with the public. For years, I was in contact with the public... and never got a flu shot. And never got the flu. So, I suspect, a lot could do with genetics, as I never recall my parents, ever.... suffering with the flu. sigh. it's an inactivated vaccine that is physically incapable of causing you to get the flu, or having a sickness as a response (barring the 1/100,000 chance of an allergic reaction). There are so many viruses around this time of year that often people will get the vaccine, then contract a non-influenza virus and draw the wrong conclusion Further, it's been proven to help if you do get the flu to have less severe symptoms and a shorter course. I've seen some bad, bad cases this year. Has landed a lot of people in the ICU as the severe strains are back and weren't covered as well with this round of vaccines. That said, everyone should be getting this shot and it's unbelievable to me that people don't. My 2 cents, as a physician in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 Reasons to Avoid Getting a Flu Shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierfan615 Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 ^^^That’s why I haven’t gotten a flu shot the last 5 years Mile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoagieRoll Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 hours ago, milehiiu said: 4 Reasons to Avoid Getting a Flu Shot Hahahah this is unbelievably inaccurate and misleading. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/misconceptions.htm ill trust the CDC, you go with Mr. and Mrs. Wolfson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoagieRoll Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 If you have your own reasons to not get the vaccine, that’s fine and I can’t change your mind. I just pray that none of the reasons in that article you posted are YOUR reasons its a vaccine that works because molecularly it’s doing the same thing most other vaccines do. It’s impossible for it not to help protect against the flu https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/24354-6-flu-vaccine-myths.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoagieRoll Posted February 6, 2018 Report Share Posted February 6, 2018 Last word mile, googling ‘why I shouldn’t get the flu shot’ is just going to lead you to similarly misinformed people voicing their incorrect opinions. Do your due diligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Provided by my employer. Have never had the flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 On 2/6/2018 at 7:51 AM, HoagieRoll said: If you have your own reasons to not get the vaccine, that’s fine and I can’t change your mind. I just pray that none of the reasons in that article you posted are YOUR reasons its a vaccine that works because molecularly it’s doing the same thing most other vaccines do. It’s impossible for it not to help protect against the flu https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/24354-6-flu-vaccine-myths.html I don't think people are arguing over the actual virus itself but about the other stuff inside the vaccine. Have you actually looked at the CDC's website that lists the ingredients in the influenza vaccine? That is not stuff that I would want in my body. Also, with the multitude of influenza strains (300 known and who knows how many unknown), the vaccine only "prevents" the 3 strains the doctors guess are going to be most prevalent? If that's the case, the vaccine only prevents up to 1% (3/300) of the total number of strains. If a hundred people get the vaccine and it only works on 70% of them (I've read it's much lower than this), then you have an overall effectiveness of .7%. That's not very good. IMHO, there's a huge amount of propaganda that goes into the medical industry, and the flu vaccine is just one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoagieRoll Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, StLHoosier said: I Also, with the multitude of influenza strains (300 known and who knows how many unknown), the vaccine only "prevents" the 3 strains the doctors guess are going to be most prevalent? If that's the case, the vaccine only prevents up to 1% (3/300) of the total number of strains. If a hundred people get the vaccine and it only works on 70% of them (I've read it's much lower than this), then you have an overall effectiveness of .7%. That's not very good. False, you're assuming things incorrectly here. The 3-4 strains that it protects against are the most common ones, and many of the most severe strains--thus you can say it only prevents 1% of strains, but not then 1% of cases since not all strains are created equal. Again, CDC says and research has shown that if you are vaccinated you are 50% less likely to contract the flu (flu being the main strains that are commonly seen every year) and that if you do get the flu, your symptoms are less severe/prolonged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Local Denver news station, just this morning had a segment on the flu, this season. Said some people who have had a shot, have gotten the flu twice this flu season. Different strains. However, the most interesting thing is they said in three or four years, they will be developing a flu shot that covers all strains of flu. May sound silly. However, I make homemade chicken soup... all of the time. Personally, think that, along with keeping hydrated goes a long way to preventing the flu for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Report : One out of ten who contracted the flu last week have...... died ! Question : Who funded the report ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/7/2018 at 1:42 PM, milehiiu said: Local Denver news station, just this morning had a segment on the flu, this season. Said some people who have had a shot, have gotten the flu twice this flu season. Different strains. However, the most interesting thing is they said in three or four years, they will be developing a flu shot that covers all strains of flu. May sound silly. However, I make homemade chicken soup... all of the time. Personally, think that, along with keeping hydrated goes a long way to preventing the flu for me. Without weighing in on the ongoing vaccine debate, there is no doubt that diet (as well as simply being diligent about washing your hands) has a ton of positive benefits for disease prevention. Good on you in that regard, Mile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Without weighing in on the ongoing vaccine debate, there is no doubt that diet (as well as simply being diligent about washing your hands) has a ton of positive benefits for disease prevention. Good on you in that regard, Mile! Thankyou Sir. Don't want to discourage those who do feel the need for a flu shot. However, my entire adult life, I have never gotten a flu shot. And I don't get the flu. Maybe it's genetics, as I don't recall my parents ever getting the flu either. Anyway. I would like to share my simple Chicken Noodle Soup receipe. That I make all year long. And keep on hand as well. One whole chicken Three to four stalks of celery, cut up. Three to four carrots, cut up. Parsley . Salt. To taste. _______________________ Put the chicken in a soup pot. And put on boil. Skim the fat. Once the fat is completely skimmed...Reduce the heat. Add the celery, carrots, parsley and salt. Simmer, for an hour or longer. Either keep the chicken in the pot, or take out and shred to add in with noodles. Make noodles in a different pot, and add as desired, along with chicken, also if desired. ___________________________ I have made this soup for years for friends and relatives , when they say they are not feeling well. And they always have said it has helped them more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 My last really bad bout of flu was in March of 2000...approximately 5 months after my last flu shot. Doctor told me (too late) that flu shots were not designed to last that long. I try to avoid affected/coughing people during flu season and wash my hands a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 Haven’t got the flu shot in 3 years and haven’t had the flu in 3 years. Every year before that I’d got the flu shot when available and every one of those years I got the flu. 🤔🤔🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 I'm not necessarily opposed to the flu shot, nor am I convinced it does a whole lot. Maybe I have had 2 in the last 10 years? Luckily, I'm rather healthy and can't recall the last time I've had the flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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