GaloisGroupe Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, IowaHoosierFan said: That's a bold statement. I am not saying you're wrong. Something just doesn't feel "NBA" about his game to me. But what do i know. It is a bold statement (and I am a total homer), but I think he has athleticism to play in the league. (I am not predicting NBA starter or anything, just on a roster somewhere type of draft pick - yet 😉). At the start of this season he could barely bring the ball up the court without getting out of control. He is now starting to harness his talent. The big thing will be continuing that and improving the hitch in his shot that causes him to need a lot of space to get it off in time (i.e., a quicker trigger). He may be our second best player now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: I thought we were arguing about Ps and Qs. NotI was right - we cannot even agree on our manner of disagreeing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: That's a bold statement. I am not saying you're wrong. Something just doesn't feel "NBA" about his game to me. But what do i know. He would have to totally relearn to put the jump into his jump shot. The stroke itself is looking better and better as the year goes on but the flatness wont work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: He would have to totally relearn to put the jump into his jump shot. The stroke itself is looking better and better as the year goes on but the flatness wont work. It looks like he tucks that elbow way to much and and then works it up and through. Take a long time to develop and looks really broken. Now, if it goes in 40% of time, then well maybe it works lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, GaloisGroupe said: If XJ gets a second year with this staff and continues to work like he has, he will be drafted in the NBA. 14 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: That's a bold statement. I am not saying you're wrong. Something just doesn't feel "NBA" about his game to me. But what do i know. I can definitely see him getting a paycheck to play basketball, but I'm just not sure about that shotput jumper at the NBA level. I don't see the IU coaching staff changing his mechanics at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 hours ago, IUwins0708 said: Yep, I guess I jinxed the injury part…..🤦♂️ Seriously!! Other than recruiting news, interesting behind the scenes tidbits, insights into the program or any other info that we, as a slightly psycotic (yet loveable) fanbase might darn near drag out of you....please keep things like that to yourself. Its as bad as a play by play guy saying sonebody hasnt missed a freethrow in a game! 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: It looks like he tucks that elbow way to much and and then works it up and through. Take a long time to develop and looks really broken. Now, if it goes in 40% of time, then well maybe it works lol Yeah, his shot starts down at his waist and he brings the ball straight up very close to his body. So his elbow is nowhere near 90 degrees, more like 30 degrees, maybe 45. Then he shoots it without the guide hand even on the ball. Doesn't get much elevation. Ugly shot and why he can be inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said: Yeah, his shot starts down at his waist and he brings the ball straight up very close to his body. So his elbow is nowhere near 90 degrees, more like 30 degrees, maybe 45. Then he shoots it without the guide hand even on the ball. Doesn't get much elevation. Ugly shot and why he can be inconsistent. All of this is correct, but he, RP, RT, and TG have all gotten rid of the ridgeness of their shots. The hitches that we saw early in the year. Someone on this staff is really improving their shots. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: All of this is correct, but he, RP, RT, and TG have all gotten rid of the ridgeness of their shots. The hitches that we saw early in the year. Someone on this staff is really improving their shots. Yes. It's very nice to see after years of the shooting getting worse than the previous year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: I gave my answer. He's not physically ready. He would play out of necessity but why play him if he's going to get physically dominated by most B1G guards? Because he hustles and tries hard? This also isn't complicated. Those around the program have said that Leal is exceptionally strong...like pound for pound one of the strongest on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: Those around the program have said that Leal is exceptionally strong...like pound for pound one of the strongest on the team. May be. He still gets over imposed by B1G guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: He only played because of Galloway injury. You still only have 13 schollies. So, someone has to leave to make room for the incoming class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: May be. He still gets over imposed by B1G guards. It's more athletically then strength IMO. I think Leal is plenty strong, he's just not very athletics and doesn't have much length for the position as well. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, BGleas said: It's more athletically then strength IMO. I think Leal is plenty strong, he's just not very athletics and doesn't have much length for the position as well. Not much difference in size (strength) between Galloway and Leal from what I can tell....but athleticism and anticipation or just perhaps motor is the biggest and why one plays and the other doesn't. That said if Leal was just a couple inches taller he would be starting at the 3 instead of Kopp....probably every bit as good a shooter, passer, and would be defender...but he isn't. I love Leal...but he is likely going to always be a specialist at IU...and nothing wrong with that...we need shooters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94hoosier Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 43 minutes ago, 5fouls said: You still only have 13 schollies. So, someone has to leave to make room for the incoming class. COVID rule. Some of the seniors will not count toward 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 41 minutes ago, 94hoosier said: COVID rule. Some of the seniors will not count toward 13 That was just for one year and that was only if those seniors stayed at their school 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, 94hoosier said: COVID rule. Some of the seniors will not count toward 13 I could be wrong, but while the players can still come back next season, the 13 scholly limit is back in effect. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I could be wrong, but while the players can still come back next season, the 13 scholly limit is back in effect. That is/was my understanding as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94hoosier Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I could be wrong, but while the players can still come back next season, the 13 scholly limit is back in effect. I missed that There will a lot of players that want to take a extra year asked to move on at a lot schools. That is going to make the portal even crazier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I could be wrong, but while the players can still come back next season, the 13 scholly limit is back in effect. 14 minutes ago, rico said: That is/was my understanding as well. True...talked to a basketball mom and she was telling me that schools are much more selective with their offers right now as a result. Says it's hurting the less than elite seniors this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, 94hoosier said: I missed that There will a lot of players that want to take a extra year asked to move on at a lot schools. That is going to make the portal even crazier It'll probably be similar to last season and for a few more seasons going ahead until all the classes with extra eligibility are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 hours ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Completely forgot about the extra year. I can see Race staying then, along with XJ and even Rob unless the injury is bad and requires alot of therapy. But he is a workhorse so i could see him coming back also. Does Kopp and PS have another year also? If so, something has to give right? Someone is going to transfer out possibly? Thoughts? The other thing about Race.. while this is his 5th year on campus, he reclassified and came here a year early. He will still only be 23 in June. Parker will be 24 this summer, no clue if that'll play into the decisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderMonkey Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Race has taken huge steps forward this year, assuming he can do the same and come back next year. He could be one of the best players in the league. I still think TJD needs to come back too since he has no midrange or outside game and really struggles against the bigger guys in the league. If they were both to come back next year, could be looking at B10 championship team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, dgambill said: Not much difference in size (strength) between Galloway and Leal from what I can tell....but athleticism and anticipation or just perhaps motor is the biggest and why one plays and the other doesn't. That said if Leal was just a couple inches taller he would be starting at the 3 instead of Kopp....probably every bit as good a shooter, passer, and would be defender...but he isn't. I love Leal...but he is likely going to always be a specialist at IU...and nothing wrong with that...we need shooters! Why can’t Leal be a Sasha type ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Why can’t Leal be a Sasha type ? You have two elite offensive players(3 actually, but only two play together) that make Sasha's importance and opportunities go way up. Incredibly balanced team in those top 4 scorers. No different then when LeBron always wanted Korver, James Jones to play on his teams. Sasha is just a tall Jordy Hulls. Both have elite traits from deep. Leal, until this point, isnt a sniper. Edited January 27, 2022 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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