rico Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 If we were 25-5, ranked 6th in the country, and B1G regular season champs XJ would be the greatest thing since sliced bread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, btownqb said: All more than fair. Good dudes. All average a higher TO rate than XJ does. Admins, can we please put a stop to people trying to support their arguments with facts like this? 🤔😂 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo123 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 I love XJ as a point guard. If we had some real shooters on this team. He would have had a first team all big type season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, gnet550 said: Maybe coach Shep just doesn't care for XJ....I don't have an issue with XJ's game and what he has done. I think as he goes the team goes, maybe even more so than TJD this year. The one problem I have with XJ is the theatrics that we must endure every game....being an instigator, flopping around all the time, that is the stuff that make people not like him. If he could just chill out on that stuff he would probably be one of everyone who watches favorite players. Don't get me wrong, I will root for him just like anyone else on the team, but I could do without the nonsense. The thing is that Coach Shep keeps bringing up quality of play issues. If Shep's problem is with XJ's theatrics, then just say it and most of us can easily agree that there are some elements of that theatrical nature that he needs to work on. Let's say we were discussing a car that drives extremely well. If the real thing they do not like is the vinyl seats, then do not start discussing the acceleration and handling - especially if they are excellent. Just say, "I do not like the vinyl seats." Then we can all move on. XJ is one of our best players in terms of game play AND the numbers back it up. Edited March 9, 2022 by GaloisGroupe 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: The 1976 team averaged 16.8 turnovers a game 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ba43056 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Hold up for a second. XJ came in as a "hot and cold potentially combustive player with tremendous potential and great numbers at Pitt. At Pitt. He's had some games that were very tough to watch this year but has done something that the two other perimeter transfers haven't. He's gotten better. He's figured out how to be an impact in the Big Ten from the PG position. At this moment and over the last month he's been the best player at his position in the conference. If Bates develops and Galloway does his thing for an entire season with Race as our interior star XJ will have tremendous assist numbers and we'll be better next year. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steubenhoosier Posted March 9, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 For the last, I don’t know how many, years people on here have complained that our team had no heart, played like robots, were going through the motions. Now we have a couple of kids—X and TG— who are not afraid of emoting on the floor, kids like those on other teams who we hate, but would love to have on our roster, and people are bitching about that. Give me more kids like the two I mentioned— all day, every day. 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: For the last, I don’t know how many, years people on here have complained that our team had no heart, played like robots, were going through the motions. Now we have a couple of kids—X and TG— who are not afraid of emoting on the floor, kids like those on other teams who we hate, but would love to have on our roster, and people are bitching about that. Give me more kids like the two I mentioned— all day, every day. 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, 13th&Jackson said: Isiah Thomas averaged 3.9 TOs per game at IU. 0.113 per minute played. 81 title year, 3.1 TOs per game, 0.89 per minute played. His A/TO ratio in 80-81 was 1.87. He was one of the best to ever play. XJ's A/TO ratio this year is 1.85. @Coach Shepdidn't like Isiah Thomas. Chuck Franz was his main man on that team. Dude only committed 8 turnovers the entire season. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Coach Shep said: Chuck was a high school legend down in my neck of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Actually this was my man on the 1981 team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Coach Shep said: Actually this was my man on the 1981 team His TO rate was way higher than XJ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: His TO rate was way higher than XJ. 0.59 per min less than XJ Edited March 9, 2022 by Coach Shep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Coach Shep said: 0.59 per min less than XJ That isn't TO rate. We've been over this, Shep. For a Forward to avg over 2 TOs per game... that's not good. TJD nor Race average that many TOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: That isn't TO rate. We've been over this, Shep. For a Forward to avg over 2 TOs per game... that's not good. TJD nor Race average that many TOs. It was a different game in 1981. a lot more possessions than in todays game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Turnovers cost a team more the less possessions than a team that has a lot of possessions. Dont know how that helps your argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Coach Shep said: Turnovers cost a team more the less possessions than a team that has a lot of possessions. Dont know how that helps your argument Again... Kitchel barely has the ball in his hands compared to XJ. Kitchel STILL avged over 2TOs per game compared to XJ's 2.6. There is no way you cannot see that those aren't equal. I mean, CeeDee Lamb avgs more yards per carry than Jonathan Taylor does... is a better RB? Edited March 9, 2022 by btownqb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 There were more possessions in the 1980s than in todays game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 I liked Kitchel's team first attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Coach Shep said: I liked Kitchel's team first attitude. Good!! Then you should love XJs as well!! Few have a more team first attitude then him! You should see him all over twitter supporting his teammates, coaches, trainers, and other athletes at IU. He's everywhere on twitter! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Twitter is not the basketball court. He is a selfish player 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Coach Shep said: Twitter is not the basketball court. He is a selfish player But, he isn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Immature? Yeah, I'll say he is immature... especially early in the season. Selfish? No, that's not a word to describe XJ. He doesn't even play close to a selfish player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) "As long as you are selfish people, you will never be good basketball players.” Coach Knight Edited March 9, 2022 by Coach Shep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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