BGleas Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Coach Shep said: You do realize XJ has twice as many turnovers a game than any one else on the team Should be pretty easy to understand for a coach, no? He has the ball the most and our other ball handlers (Phinisee and Galloway) have missed numerous games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Coach Shep said: You do realize XJ has twice as many turnovers a game than any one else on the team Most point guards do but ok. Coaches Larry, Curley and Moe too busy to join the discussion? Edited March 9, 2022 by Billingsley99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Hunter Dickson,C, Michigan .leads them in Turnovers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 16 hours ago, BGleas said: You do realize XJ has the most assists in a season of any IU player since the 2015-16 season? You do realize that XJ has almost 100 more assists then anyone on the team this season? You do realize that XJ leads the team in steals? He also 2nd on the team in Win Shares and 2nd on the team in TS%, eFG% and PER. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Coach Shep said: Hunter Dickson,C, Michigan .leads them in Turnovers I looked that up...from what I see, DeVante Jones does. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Coach Shep said: Hunter Dickson,C, Michigan .leads them in Turnovers Hence the statement most not all if I had said all you would be correct and i would be wrong but since I said most as usual I am correct😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, rico said: I looked that up...from what I see, DeVante Jones does. I am not a smart man... but what position does Jones play??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IowaHoosierFan Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Coach Shep said: You do realize XJ has twice as many turnovers a game than any one else on the team Coach, who is your favorite IU player on this years team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Galloway,Rob,Bates and geronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Coach Shep said: Galloway,Rob,Bates and geronimo All more than fair. Good dudes. All average a higher TO rate than XJ does. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 17 hours ago, BGleas said: You do realize XJ has the most assists in a season of any IU player since the 2015-16 season? You do realize that XJ has almost 100 more assists then anyone on the team this season? You do realize that XJ leads the team in steals? He also 2nd on the team in Win Shares and 2nd on the team in TS%, eFG% and PER. XJ is one of those guys who has a little bit of on court crazy in him, BUT, he is a pretty talented guy and when you get him to have himself under control he is a really big asset. Yeah, he plays on the edge a little bit sometimes but damn if he doesn't care. He hates to lose. We need more of that type of attitude in the program. He will be a big part of whatever we do next year. This team is missing production at the 2/3. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 18 hours ago, BGleas said: You do realize XJ has the most assists in a season of any IU player since the 2015-16 season? You do realize that XJ has almost 100 more assists then anyone on the team this season? You do realize that XJ leads the team in steals? He also 2nd on the team in Win Shares and 2nd on the team in TS%, eFG% and PER. 1 hour ago, Billingsley99 said: Most point guards do but ok 1 hour ago, btownqb said: All more than fair. Good dudes. All average a higher TO rate than XJ does. XJ 2.6 TO He is higher than all 4 Geronimo 1.0 Galloway 1.4 Bates 0.8 Rob 1.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Coach Shep said: XJ 2.6 TO He is higher than all 4 Geronimo 1.0 Galloway 1.4 Bates 0.8 Rob 1.1 That isn't rate. That is an average per game. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: Because he has the ball in his hands on ever possession. Do you realize that at one time Magic Johnson had the most assist and turnovers in NBA history. SPOILER ALERT 🚨 just started Showtime on HBO max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, Coach Shep said: XJ 2.6 TO He is higher than all 4 Geronimo 1.0 Galloway 1.4 Bates 0.8 Rob 1.1 I’m calling it…..10:44 am EST Coach Shep passed away on a cold and lonely hill Are you related to Skip Bayless ? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Turnovers per minute played . here is your rate XJ .095 Geronimo .081 Galloway .065 Rob .059 Bates .048 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Coach Shep said: Turnovers per minute played . here is your rate XJ .095 Geronimo .081 Galloway .065 Rob .059 Bates .048 Isiah Thomas averaged 3.9 TOs per game at IU. 0.113 per minute played. 81 title year, 3.1 TOs per game, 0.89 per minute played. His A/TO ratio in 80-81 was 1.87. He was one of the best to ever play. XJ's A/TO ratio this year is 1.85. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Coach Shep said: Turnovers per minute played . here is your rate XJ .095 Geronimo .081 Galloway .065 Rob .059 Bates .048 No... that is not rate either. That is an average of TO's per min. But, from those #'s and from the eye test. JG is a turnover machine. Rate would be like--- how much he has the ball in his hands/how many passes he makes divided by the amount he has the ball in his hands. Surely you can agree that XJ has the ball in his hands 50% of basically any offensive possession we have. So, he should also account for half of our turnovers.... he doesn't or not even close to it. I hope you now understand what turnover rate is. Edited March 9, 2022 by btownqb 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) My 2 cents: Coach Shep must be playing with everyone. I would have argued that XJ was one of our best players when he was out of control half the time. I could see some arguments against him then... not now. Now that governs the offense with an iron fist and makes globally good decisions, he is the core of this team. Honestly, his directing the team on where to position themselves on offense impressed me as much as anything in the PU game. Honestly, XJ's play has been so good that an IU fan believing his play has not been good only leaves a few reasonable possibilities: They did not watch the last few games They are crazy/do not know anything about basketball I am crazy/do not know anything about basketball We live in similar parallel universes that somehow intersect along HSN... EDIT: I am hoping it is #4 - that would be cool. Edited March 9, 2022 by GaloisGroupe 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, btownqb said: No lol.. that is not rate either. I'm thinking @Coach Shep struggles with "rates" and shouldn't apply for a mortgage any time soon... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, btownqb said: No lol.. that is not rate either. No way he is a coach. Like Ted Kitchell said when we hired Kelvin Sampson, I wouldn't let him coach my daughter's third grade team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Isiah Thomas averaged 3.9 TOs per game at IU. 0.113 per minute played. 81 title year, 3.1 TOs per game, 0.89 per minute played. His A/TO ratio in 80-81 was 1.87. He was one of the best to ever play. XJ's A/TO ratio this year is 1.85. The 1976 team averaged 16.8 turnovers a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnet550 Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, GaloisGroupe said: My 2 cents: Coach Shep must be playing with everyone. I would have argued that XJ was one of our best players when he was out of control half the time. I could see some arguments against him then... not now. Now that governs the offense with an iron fist and makes globally good decisions, he is the core of this team. Honestly, his directing the team on where to position themselves on offense impressed me as much as anything in the PU game. Honestly, XJ's play has been so good that an IU fan believing his play has not been good only leaves a few reasonable possibilities: They did not watch the last few games They are crazy/do not know anything about basketball I am crazy/do not know anything about basketball We live in similar parallel universes that somehow intersect along HSN... EDIT: I am hoping it is #4 - that would be cool. Maybe coach Shep just doesn't care for XJ....I don't have an issue with XJ's game and what he has done. I think as he goes the team goes, maybe even more so than TJD this year. The one problem I have with XJ is the theatrics that we must endure every game....being an instigator, flopping around all the time, that is the stuff that make people not like him. If he could just chill out on that stuff he would probably be one of everyone who watches favorite players. Don't get me wrong, I will root for him just like anyone else on the team, but I could do without the nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Shep Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Definition of rate a quantity, amount, or degree of something measured per unit of something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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