Hoosierinbham Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Oh and it sounds like Coach Ya could be in the mix to head to U of L with Kenny Payne. Not done yet but there will be conversations. Could that bring Randy in as his replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Woody is also going to have some tough conversations coming up with a few players. If guys have their degrees , I don't think the coaches have to let them come back. It might not be a good luck but if some of the older guys wants to come back it might need to be elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Hoosierinbham said: Could that bring Randy in as his replacement? Whittman is obviously a good basketball mind, but at this level you need assistants that are going to grind the recruiting trail. Is Whittman going to do that, especially with little to no experience? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Banks is already signed for starters. Ya just got Indiana in the door with his connections. Woody and the rest of the staff sold them on the school. Good point. A former Alabama player told me Ya couldn't close at Bama. Told him that wasn't his job. Ya seems to have some solid connections, but we'll be good either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Oh and it sounds like Coach Ya could be in the mix to head to U of L with Kenny Payne. Not done yet but there will be conversations. Not surprised, but hope he stays with us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, BGleas said: Whittman is obviously a good basketball mind, but at this level you need assistants that are going to grind the recruiting trail. Is Whittman going to do that, especially with little to no experience? That's true. I guess I was thinking him having more access to players in practice for development, but you bring up a good point on recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveoutofsix Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said: That's true. I guess I was thinking him having more access to players in practice for development, but you bring up a good point on recruiting. Only need one key recruiter. Randy has plenty of connections as well across the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, Fiveoutofsix said: Only need one key recruiter. Randy has plenty of connections as well across the country. I highly doubt all these programs only have one key recruiter. On the current staff Fife, Hunter and Ya are all recruiting. I don’t think there are college assistants that don't recruit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, BGleas said: I highly doubt all these programs only have one key recruiter. On the current staff Fife, Hunter and Ya are all recruiting. I don’t think there are college assistants that don't recruit. Phil Martelli? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveoutofsix Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BGleas said: I highly doubt all these programs only have one key recruiter. On the current staff Fife, Hunter and Ya are all recruiting. I don’t think there are college assistants that don't recruit. I agree with that, but what I'm saying is that every coach is a recruiter including your recruiting director. Heck, when Dan Dakitch was Director of Basketball, he was the one giving tours to Zeller on campus and it was said his connections had them talking. You need a coach that is also going to run practices when the head coach is out recruiting. I wouldn't it past that Woodson and Whittman can go into any state with a NBA team and or G team and pull a connection out. It's who wants to work for it. I think that is the assumption that Ya is the one spending most of his time recruiting. I think Fife and Hunter have been the main leads?? The two Georgia kids have been Ya's lead? Recruiting is about connections and who can make the phone call. And other stuff that IU is not known for. Edited March 20, 2022 by Fiveoutofsix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, BGleas said: I highly doubt all these programs only have one key recruiter. On the current staff Fife, Hunter and Ya are all recruiting. I don’t think there are college assistants that don't recruit. Sister Jean? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Fiveoutofsix said: Only need one key recruiter. Randy has plenty of connections as well across the country. Maybe Larry Brown. He has plenty of experience and connections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said: Phil Martelli? Martelli has been recruiting his entire career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveoutofsix Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Banks is already signed for starters. Ya just got Indiana in the door with his connections. Woody and the rest of the staff sold them on the school. Ya didn't bring Jabari Parker to IU, I think he wouldn't jump in with Banks, etc. Anyhow, those kids seem all in to IU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Fiveoutofsix said: I agree with that, but what I'm saying is that every coach is a recruiter including your recruiting director. Heck, when Dan Dakitch was Director of Basketball, he was the one giving tours to Zeller on campus and it was said his connections had them talking. You need a coach that is also going to run practices when the head coach is out recruiting. I wouldn't it past that Woodson and Whittman can go into any state with a NBA team and or G team and pull a connection out. It's who wants to work for it. I think that is the assumption that Ya is the one spending most of his time recruiting. I think Fife and Hunter have been the main leads?? The two Georgia kids have been Ya's lead? Recruiting is about connections and who can make the phone call. And other stuff that IU is not known for. I hear what you're saying as well, and I think these NBA guys have more AAU and grassroots connections then we probably think. With that said, I don’t love the idea of 2 out of 4 of our available offsite recruiters should we hire Whitman (Woodson, Whitman, Fife and Hunter) basically having zero college basketball recruiting experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveoutofsix Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, BGleas said: I hear what you're saying as well, and I think these NBA guys have more AAU and grassroots connections then we probably think. With that said, I don’t love the idea of 2 out of 4 of our available offsite recruiters should we hire Whitman (Woodson, Whitman, Fife and Hunter) basically having zero college basketball recruiting experience. My thought is always put the best staff possible together. Leverage the Recruiting Director positon and at least one assistant to make it his/her main objective. Then again, Knight and Davis both hired high school coaches to get recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said: Could that bring Randy in as his replacement? Nope. He’ll never be more than a consultant because he’s enjoying being retired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 If Ya leaves then the first name I’d look at would be promoting Brian Walsh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveoutofsix Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 minute ago, DC2345 said: Nope. He’ll never be more than a consultant because he’s enjoying being retired. Makes sense, but would be awesome. I'm sure "money" could slide over. And maybe them switching roles? Going to be fun to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Fiveoutofsix said: My thought is always put the best staff possible together. Leverage the Recruiting Director positon and at least one assistant to make it his/her main objective. Then again, Knight and Davis both hired high school coaches to get recruits. Recruiting Director can't recruit offsite though, unless they changed the rules. You need more then one assistant recruiting. These AAU tournaments are all over the country and recruiting is a national game now. This isn't Bob Knight's world anymore. I'm fine with replacing Ya, as I guess he's probably light on the actual coaching side, but I still don't like having 2 guys with little recruiting experience. Between Woodson, Fife and Hunter, and then with Matta and Armond Hill involved I'm sure we're fine from an X's and O's perspective. We need the Jimmy's and the Joe's now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 minute ago, BGleas said: Recruiting Director can't recruit offsite though, unless they changed the rules. You need more then one assistant recruiting. These AAU tournaments are all over the country and recruiting is a national game now. This isn't Bob Knight's world anymore. I'm fine with replacing Ya, as I guess he's probably light on the actual coaching side, but I still don't like having 2 guys with little recruiting experience. Between Woodson, Fife and Hunter, and then with Matta and Armond Hill involved I'm sure we're fine from an X's and O's perspective. We need the Jimmy's and the Joe's now. And I believe they’re coming. JHS solid, Banks is better than people realize. Gunn is a shooter. Cupps is mr bball as a junior in Ohio. That’s a pretty impressive feat in 1 year. The joes are a’comin’ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, Coach Robby said: And I believe they’re coming. JHS solid, Banks is better than people realize. Gunn is a shooter. Cupps is mr bball as a junior in Ohio. That’s a pretty impressive feat in 1 year. The joes are a’comin’ Completely agree, just need it to keep going! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fiveoutofsix said: Makes sense, but would be awesome. I'm sure "money" could slide over. And maybe them switching roles? Going to be fun to see what happens. He has Woodson’s ear on a lot of things. When the offense got more movement late in the year that was Whitman’s doing as were some sets and other wrinkles that were put in on offense. He just doesn’t want to do the day to day stuff or he’d already have day to day role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted March 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, IU Scott said: Wins per year. DD 22 XJ 21 84 / 4 = 21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 minute ago, DC2345 said: He has Woodson’s ear on a lot of things. When the offense got more movement late in the year that was Whitman’s doing as were some sets and other wrinkles that were put in on offense. He just doesn’t want to do the day to day stuff or he’d already have day to day role. They he definitely should not become an assistant. College assistants need to be 100%, all-in grinders. Keep him consulting and get an assistant (assuming Ya leaves) that is a grinders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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