TheWatShot Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: back to Negative Nancy here. i am very happy JG is returning, but it makes me that much more skeptical that TJD would come back. really hard to believe that the players and staff think there would be enough minutes to keep JG, TJD, Malik, and Race happy. maybe JG can prove us wrong and play the 3. It could also say that these guys don't need a sh*t ton of minutes to be happy here, that they like playing for each other and this program. I doubt anyone knows what TJD is going to decide. He himself might not even know yet. Geronimo will be here after TJD is gone, whenever that happens. People need to quit trying to read into every action/decision these guys make. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, NCHoosier32 said: back to Negative Nancy here. i am very happy JG is returning, but it makes me that much more skeptical that TJD would come back. really hard to believe that the players and staff think there would be enough minutes to keep JG, TJD, Malik, and Race happy. maybe JG can prove us wrong and play the 3. 38 minutes ago, Hoosierdave said: I'm not sure you'd be happy if you didn't have something to worry about. 🤣🤣🤣 I don't think Trayce is the least bit unhappy that Jordan is staying and he doesn't appear to be worried about his minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: It could also say that these guys don't need a sh*t ton of minutes to be happy here, that they like playing for each other and this program. I doubt anyone knows what TJD is going to decide. He himself might not even know yet. Geronimo will be here after TJD is gone, whenever that happens. People need to quit trying to read into every action/decision these guys make. Are you kidding? We live for this kind of stuff! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRSMick55 Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, NCHoosier32 said: back to Negative Nancy here. i am very happy JG is returning, but it makes me that much more skeptical that TJD would come back. really hard to believe that the players and staff think there would be enough minutes to keep JG, TJD, Malik, and Race happy. maybe JG can prove us wrong and play the 3. Maybe he and the others just KNOW they’ll be able to compete for minutes and are CONFIDENT he /they will get the game minutes. There are no absolutes here. Too much we don’t know about any of this to accurately say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted April 24, 2022 Report Share Posted April 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: I'm not sure you'd be happy if you didn't have something to worry about. 🤣🤣🤣 I don't think Trayce is the least bit unhappy that Jordan is staying and he doesn't appear to be worried about his minutes. i mean in a way you're right about me. unfortunately i always worry about something. BUT... i definitely don't think Trayce would be concerned. if he comes back he will start every game and play huge minutes. i'm just saying that i can't imagine Race not starting since he was our 3rd leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder and he's in his 6th year. they played 32.2 mpg and 28.6mpg this season. that leaves our 5 star freshman getting every minute either of them are out which is 19.2mpg. honestly i don't think that's enough, but it also leaves 0 mpg for JG. i mean if you divide those 80 minutes evenly between the 4 of them it would be 20mpg. you'd cut TJD's minutes by 12.2 and Thompson's by 8.6. clearly that's not gonna happen. anyway, i would love to have the current roster. i think we'd be loaded and easily a top 15team. just hard to believe we'll have the 4 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaybobHoosier Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 8 hours ago, KDB said: JG returning! Love this and huge for the program. A lot of potential that hasn’t even come close to being unlocked. Develop some handles and perimeter defense, then sky’s the limit for this kid! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 I think TJD will be back so I think the roster is set for next year. Unless someone pays their own way I don think we will add another player. To me if we bring in another player and not lose anyone would cause more problems than a benefit. How the roster looks right now probably 10 or 11 players are good enough to earn playing time. You add one more it could cause some to become unhappy about playing time. This roster is better suited to play 2 lineups but don't know if Woodson will still try to to do it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: This roster is better suited to play 2 lineups but don't know if Woodson will still try to to do it. I'm trying to remember the last highly successful college basketball team that implemented the 2 lineup system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 47 minutes ago, SawatchHoosier said: I'm trying to remember the last highly successful college basketball team that implemented the 2 lineup system? Kentucky had some success with it but mostly it faltered in the later season. There just isn't even talent to put a whole second string against another teams mostly first team. Almost no team can do 10 deep at that talent level. There is a reason no one does it and it has failed mostly when anyone tries. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 10 hours ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Kentucky had some success with it but mostly it faltered in the later season. There just isn't even talent to put a whole second string against another teams mostly first team. Almost no team can do 10 deep at that talent level. There is a reason no one does it and it has failed mostly when anyone tries. It won't work. Woody is doing a great job recruiting but unless he moves away from his NBA ways he'll never have the kind of success here that most expect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 I hope TJD is back, but with all of the off-season developments, I am excited about our roster and our team either way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: It won't work. Woody is doing a great job recruiting but unless he moves away from his NBA ways he'll never have the kind of success here that most expect. How do you define work? Let's say TJD comes back.... out of-- TJD, RT, XJ, JG, TG, TB, XJ, JHS, MR, and MK-- we are just leaving one or two of them out of the rotation and for what reason? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: It won't work. Woody is doing a great job recruiting but unless he moves away from his NBA ways he'll never have the kind of success here that most expect. College basketball is known for being more innovative than the NBA Seriously though, NBA coaches have no problem shortening their bench when they need to. Woody showed he'd shorten the bench, change rotations game to game, etc. already. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: It won't work. Woody is doing a great job recruiting but unless he moves away from his NBA ways he'll never have the kind of success here that most expect. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 It's a complete myth that IU/Woodson ran a "2 lineup system". It didn't happen. We're there times that we had 5 subs on the court together, sure, but Woodson never mass-substituted. He phased the bench guys in and then phased them out. 5 bench guys would be in together for a few minutes at most and it was almost exclusively in the 1st half. Michael Durr didn't play in 5 games and numerous times didn't play in the 2nd half. JG had several games where he didn't play in the 2nd half and Bates had some too. Then you add in that Phinisee missed 10 games and Galloway missed 15. This two lineups/mass-substitution thing gets way overblown IMO. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just when you think you can't like the kid anymore then you already do..... He drops a ranch on pizza bomb. Love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: Just when you think you can't like the kid anymore then you already do..... He drops a ranch on pizza bomb. Love it. I can accept that. Just so long as it's not putting ranch on wings. That is the sole domain of bleu cheese, and I'll start throwing fists if I hear otherwise. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: I can accept that. Just so long as it's not putting ranch on wings. That is the sole domain of bleu cheese, and I'll start throwing fists if I hear otherwise. This is an absolutely indisputable hot take. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94Bulldog Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: I can accept that. Just so long as it's not putting ranch on wings. That is the sole domain of bleu cheese, and I'll start throwing fists if I hear otherwise. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, 94Bulldog said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: This is an absolutely indisputable hot take. 49 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: I can accept that. Just so long as it's not putting ranch on wings. That is the sole domain of bleu cheese, and I'll start throwing fists if I hear otherwise. shew.. so you guys are the reason I have to answer "do you want ranch or bleu cheese with that?" I never met anyone who picked bleu cheese before my wife! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: shew.. so you guys are the reason I have to answer "do you want ranch or bleu cheese with that?" I never met anyone who picked bleu cheese before my wife! Well at least she has good taste when it comes to food. Her taste in men is obviously questionable. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, Zlinedavid said: Well at least she has good taste when it comes to food. Her taste in men is obviously questionable. not sure I could have set you up any better then that lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 hours ago, BGleas said: It's a complete myth that IU/Woodson ran a "2 lineup system". It didn't happen. We're there times that we had 5 subs on the court together, sure, but Woodson never mass-substituted. He phased the bench guys in and then phased them out. 5 bench guys would be in together for a few minutes at most and it was almost exclusively in the 1st half. Michael Durr didn't play in 5 games and numerous times didn't play in the 2nd half. JG had several games where he didn't play in the 2nd half and Bates had some too. Then you add in that Phinisee missed 10 games and Galloway missed 15. This two lineups/mass-substitution thing gets way overblown IMO. I was curious so I looked up how many minutes we had without one of XJ, TJD, or Race on the floor. It was 127 minutes. That's 3.6 minutes per game, and is almost certainly inflated by blowouts. With all 5 starters out, it was only 80 minutes where none were on the floor (2.3 mins per game). The mass substitutions is way overblown, and in reality just didn't happen to the degree many think it did. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: not sure I could have set you up any better then that lol That was a hanging 78mph curve straight down broadway….lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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