NCHoosier32 Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, btownqb said: I said an ungodly amount of running and 1-2 games.. with the details we currently know. unknowns- where the charges go from here, XJs performance in the classroom/as a teammate in day to day activities, his response today and this week, and what the resisting actually stemmed from. jmo If those things aren't "in order", yeah, he probably will be dismissed. i'm sure you are right. you always are. thanks for enlightening me. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Probably meant Barney 1 minute ago, RJPaisley said: I think he was referring to the Barney Fife cop instead of Dane Fife. I know, guys. It was a joke. Thanks though. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Hoosier51 said: No it's not, they all preach part of the IU family and Xavier is part of that. Even with family members there is a breaking point when you have to just let go and let that person get the help needed. I saw my aunt and uncle keep getting my two cousins out of trouble time after time because of alcohol and drugs but it never helped. They kept drinking and eventually killed both of them. One because of the liver damage and the other throwing up while passed out and he died. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDB Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: Dane is a cop now? He managed to land on his feet. Good for him. You guys are probably too young to remember Bernard P Fife. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 5fouls Posted April 3, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) I have a question for every person on this board. Assume this is at it appears, which is reckless driving due to excessive speed, and trying to switch drivers, and there is NOT a DUI component. If driving is not your occupation (bus driver, taxi/uber driver, school bus driver, etc.), would you personally think someone should lose their job for this type of offense? Should the checkout lady at the grocer lose her job? How about the guy working the garden center at Home Depot? The secretary at the accountant's office? Should a doctor lose his/her medical license? An assembly line worker at Ford? If your answer is that none of those people should lose their job because of this type of offense, but you want/expect X to be kicked off the IU basketball team, then you are a hypocrite. The fact is that none of those people above are going to lose their job based on the evidence we have for X's offense. Not a single one of them. So, your expectation is to hold a college kid to a higher standard than other people all over the world. Take away his driver's license, run his ass off, and sit him for a few games. That's what we should be talking about here. Some of you seem incapable of looking at college basketball players as human beings. Edited April 3, 2022 by 5fouls 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I agree and it is up to Woodson what to do but just stating my opinion on what I would do. I know that doesn't matter one bit in these circumstances but that is how I feel. Well you also don’t spend 1000s of hours growing and grooming these kids in and out of the gym…so really your and my opinions don’t matter. Woody will do what is best. If it’s best to remove him away from the rest of “his” family then he will do that to protect the other kids…if not he will discipline him and bring him back in and hope he makes the most of that last chance. Edited April 3, 2022 by dgambill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Hoosierfan1215 said: All I’m saying is if you all had a family member who was killed by a driver speeding (I’ve had 2) one in a car and 1 on a sidewalk who was 7 years old and your little brother and he was hit by a driver going 50 in a 25, you may look at it a little bit more serious than just a “ whoops bad decision”.In this situation thank goodness nobody was hurt. Take out the basketball aspect and if that’s your family member who was potentially put it harms way, it’s serious to you then. Imagine your son or daughter is driving home and that car turns just a little bit the wrong way and hits them. There always potential for things to go wrong anytime you’re in a car, but definitely shows a severe lack of good decision making and disregard for anyone but himself. We’ve all made bad decisions, but just because he ain’t perfect and neither are we doesn’t mean it’s okay either. In terms of being on the team I’ll leave that up to coach obviously, but I hope he learns his lesson regardless if he’s on the team or not and learns it isn’t all about X. If this was on somebody else’s team ya’ll would be all over him more than you are. My only post on the subject. I had a sister killed in a drunk driving accident, but that doesn't change my opinion about he shouldn't be kicked off the team. He is a young man that made a stupid mistake and hopefully he learns from it. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 41 minutes ago, btownqb said: Scott, did you have a mom and dad that were involved in your life growing up? did they buy you things? teach you things? mentor you? tell you they loved you? made sure you had clothes and food? got you to dr appts? I have no idea if XJ had those things or not... but "how hard is it for kids to stay out of trouble" ... yeah there are about a ZILLION reasons for that. Come on man. You want him kicked off, ok. I think that is BS.. but it is your opinion. You are entitled to it. But, to me, coming on here and just being oblivious to why a HUMAN being makes a mistake is simply something I don't get. It's evident XJ needs guidance. He needed that before he got here and still does. And I know you will fire back with.. "playing at IU should be a privilege" and all that. And I get that, I do. Obviously XJ isn't. Either he needs one whale of a reminder, or he is kicked off. XJ has model parents. Both USAF retirees... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Obie Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, Lostin76 said: Have spent more than one weekend in jail for stupid stuff. Have driven at insane speeds high out of my mind, and have actually totalled my motorcylce on the interstate (falling asleep while riding after a cocaine binge). Things can and do happen when you are young. Sometimes you want/need to test boundaries and see how far you can push things. Doesn’t make it right, but kids and young people often don’t understand or know what the right things are. It can take time to be a reasonable, law abiding adult. I've been there myself. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: i'm sure you are right. you always are. thanks for enlightening me. Holy cow man. What in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Even with family members there is a breaking point when you have to just let go and let that person get the help needed. I saw my aunt and uncle keep getting my two cousins out of trouble time after time because of alcohol and drugs but it never helped. They kept drinking and eventually killed both of them. One because of the liver damage and the other throwing up while passed out and he died. As far as I know this is his first run in with the law. If it was a regular thing then you might have a point but I haven't heard of any other ones. Edited April 3, 2022 by Hoosier51 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: XJ has model parents. Both USAF retirees... So do I.... I still, until I hit just absolute rock freaking bottom.... didn't get it. Lost a 5 year relationship, ungodly amounts of friendships, and one heckuva college opportunity as a result. There is a disconnect with XJ. Find his why. That is Woodson's job. It very well may be the young people he worked with this week. It was for me. Edited April 3, 2022 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maud'Dib Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 My decision would be based on WWF4TD ( what would final 4 teams do?) Kansas, Duke, UNC (1 game suspension). Villanova (3 game suspension) Seriously, as sad as it is, you are not going to win these days with high morals. Its more of an excuse. Well, maybe we aren't that good, but at least we follow all the rules. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 If XJ has done everything right up until this point with school, practice, the law…I would be shocked if he gets dismissed. I’m sure he will miss games and will pay in a much worse way then the court will probably do. That said I don’t know. If he has some history he could be gone. I wonder if this was Trayce would people feel differently. Is it because XJ is more polarizing on the floor? Just hope if he does stay people don’t use this to criticize the guy on the floor every time he misses a shot or has a turnover because on the floor he was key to turning our season around and us making the tournament. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, IU Scott said: If he was my family I wouldn't turn away from him but that is different than being a scholarship player. 20 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: ...and i definitely have done a lot of bad things in my life. also realize college kids do crazy things. really though? sorry, if you do this kind of stuff, you do deserve consequences. If X was some random dude working in the Garden Center at Home Depot, should he lose his job for this, based on the facts we have now (meaning, no drugs/alcohol, he didn't punch a policeman, etc.)? Frankly, while I suppose it fits the definition of the law, 'switching drivers' is about as soft a definition of 'resisting arrest' that you can get. Edited April 3, 2022 by 5fouls 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, dgambill said: I wonder if this was Trayce would people feel differently. Then I imagined Trayce driving a car and this was my first thought. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Maud'Dib said: My decision would be based on WWF4TD ( what would final 4 teams do?) Kansas, Duke, UNC (1 game suspension). Villanova (3 game suspension) Seriously, as sad as it is, you are not going to win these days with high morals. Its more of an excuse. Well, maybe we aren't that good, but at least we follow all the rules. He definitely deserves to be punished, but kicked off the team seems a little drastic and don't think that should or will happen. He'll plea to a lesser charge, do community service or whatever. Not sure why this isn't enough for people to be honest. Players get trashed and knock people out, they don't get kicked off the team. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 You know something that X should do? And, it would be very hard. Go back to that classroom of kids that he just met with last week, apologize to them, and talk to them about making good choices. That's exactly the type of positive thing you can get out of a situation like this that you won't get if you simply kick him to the curb. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Psshhh Carlos Dunlap had a DUI at Florida and played THAT week in the conference championship game. One of Meyer's finest feats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, 5fouls said: You know something that X should do? And, it would be very hard. Go back to that classroom of kids that he just met with last week, apologize to them, and talk to them about making good choices. That's exactly the type of positive thing you can get out of a situation like this that you won't get if you simply kick him to the curb. You get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, dgambill said: If XJ has done everything right up until this point with school, practice, the law…I would be shocked if he gets dismissed. I’m sure he will miss games and will pay in a much worse way then the court will probably do. That said I don’t know. If he has some history he could be gone. I wonder if this was Trayce would people feel differently. Is it because XJ is more polarizing on the floor? Just hope if he does stay people don’t use this to criticize the guy on the floor every time he misses a shot or has a turnover because on the floor he was key to turning our season around and us making the tournament. My thinking on X is that he was already suspended once so this is another strike. If he hadn't been suspended earlier in the year and not had trouble with the coach at Pitt I might feel differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, btownqb said: I guess XJ hasn't lived in Indiana long enough to realize.. do your speeding on 465, young fella, literally you will be fine. lol I-69 is actually a great highway to let it rip in certain spots down here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, 5fouls said: If X was some random dude working in the Garden Center at Home Depot, should he lose his job for this, based on the facts we have now (meaning, no drugs/alcohol, he didn't punch a policeman, etc.)? Frankly, while I suppose it fits the definition of the law, 'switching drivers' is about as soft a definition of 'resisting arrest' that you can get. If the boss found out about it I would think most professions would fire the employee. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, btownqb said: You can drive like 100 on 69 from Bloomington from Evansville, I have been told. Oops guess you guys noted this 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Psshhh Carlos Dunlap had a DUI at Florida and played THAT week in the conference championship game. One of Meyer's finest feats. This is basketball player…we all know football players are no where near treated the same as other sports scholarship atheletes…especially in the SEC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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