Rev_AK Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Not to say I saw it coming in any way, but Fife’s level of engagement did indeed drop off as someone else said. I watch the bench alot during time outs and commercials, and I hardly saw Dane interact with players. CMW never seemed to consult with him during any games. Seemed to me like Hunter was CMW’s right hand man. He seemed unhappy during the stretch run of the season. More went on than we know. Maybe Dane was brought in to help pacify fans, and after a seemingly successful first year, a move was made? Pure speculation on my part, but what is IU off season with no drama?? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustinchops Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: Are you sure about that? I thought he was brought in after the beginning of conference season but I don’t know for sure Yes Randy has been involved from the beginning but his role did increase quite a bit towards the end of the season. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) I am overly caffeinated, but I wonder if this portends Jim Todd joining the staff. Maybe Woody wanted to make a hire and needed a spot. But let's not sit here and pretend Woody was phenomenal with X's and O's all season. There were some lapses although we were better later in the season. There's no way Fife was leading him astray after working at a high level at MSU. Ultimately, I find it to be weak leadership to move on from a good coach due to some dysfunction. This should have gotten worked out. It's ridiculous. Edited March 23, 2022 by BobSaccamanno 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: He was at MSU for 10 years. He did fine under Izzo. It was known that he and Izzo butted heads at times. That said Izzo didn’t want yes men and knows that it’s okay for assistants to have different opinions. Izzo also would listen to those same assistants so things didn’t always fall on deaf ears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonsquad Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Rabjohns gave a pretty interesting perspective on all of this if you go back about 30 minutes into JMV's show. Seems like Dane may have had it coming for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 I'm concerned but feel it is way too early to freak out about it at this point. Too many unknowns. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, DC2345 said: It was known that he and Izzo butted heads at times. That said Izzo didn’t want yes men and knows that it’s okay for assistants to have different opinions. Izzo also would listen to those same assistants so things didn’t always fall on deaf ears. Absolutely. Debate is healthy. Show me a guy who surrounds himself with "yes men" and I will show you a bad leader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 It has to be Fife was forced on CMW as coach in waiting or wonder boy. I’m sure Fife was told everyone’s on board…maybe even a timetable for him taking over? CMW pulled a TB12….trade Jimmy G! what else makes sense ? Dane is a jerk? Don’t buy it he can’t coach ! 👎 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Sounds like it wasn't just Woodson that wanted Fife out. Higher up then that. Seems much more like a mutual separation then anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: I'm concerned but feel it is way too early to freak out about it at this point. Too many unknowns. This is obviously the moment to freak out. Once we know things, there won't be anything to freak out about. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Here we go again with "news"...is IU ever going to get past rumors, coaches leaving, players leaving...he said she said BS...man i miss the 80's & 90's. ..oh and Fife got caught in a Generational gap...Woddy trust 80's players...🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maud'Dib Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 I guess Miro Little is not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev_AK Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 I think a lot of fans are going to be unhappy. I think they were expecting CMW to be a bridge to the Dane Fife era. I do think that is part of the reason he was brought on, to help ease the fanbase’s uncertainty about the move. Wonder if Matta will stay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 38 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: We have a first year head coach, who turns 64 tomorrow, and the successor in waiting (who bleeds cream & crimson) is leaving after one year. After he spent 10 at MSU, so he's no job hopper. IU will be starting over again in another couple of years. This will really make recruiting difficult. Just got done listening to Rabjohn's on JMV and there was never a plan to have Fife as the coach in waiting. Rabjohn's said one thing the athletic department was upset with Fife was his tweets about NIL. He told players it is not about NIL and it should be about playing for IU. Rabjohn's even told Fife that was not a smart thing to say since IU is trying to establish itself with the NIL. Fife told Rabjohn that he got reprimanded for those comments. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 53 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Enter Randy Wittman Somebody on here said that he didn't want a formal job because he liked retirement. Even if he is coming, I wouldn't do it at the expense of Fife. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: It has to be Fife was forced on CMW as coach in waiting or wonder boy. I’m sure Fife was told everyone’s on board…maybe even a timetable for him taking over? CMW pulled a TB12….trade Jimmy G! what else makes sense ? Dane is a jerk? Don’t buy it he can’t coach ! 👎 Mike Woodson wants yes men. That’s not Fife. The dude lasted 10 years with a hall of famer at MSU but can only last 1 with Woodson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02Hoosier Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: I am overly caffeinated, but I wonder if this portends Jim Todd joining the staff. Maybe Woody wanted to make a hire and needed a spot. But let's not sit here and pretend Woody was phenomenal with X's and O's all season. There were some lapses although we were better later in the season. There's no way Fife was leading him astray after working at a high level at MSU. Ultimately, I find it to be weak leadership to move on from a good coach due to some dysfunction. This should have gotten worked out. It's ridiculous. I don’t mean this in a rude way, but would you rather have a dysfunctional coaching staff leading to division in the locker room and other issues? If there were true issues going on among the staff I’d prefer it to be fixed sooner rather than later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Just got done listening to Rabjohn's on JMV and there was never a plan to have Fife as the coach in waiting. Rabjohn's said one thing the athletic department was upset with Fife was his tweets about NIL. He told players it is not about NIL and it should be about playing for IU. Rabjohn's even told Fife that was not a smart thing to say since IU is trying to establish itself with the NIL. Fife told Rabjohn that he got reprimanded for those comments. I don't think it was just Woodson that told Fife to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, DC2345 said: Mike Woodson wants yes men. That’s not Fife. The dude lasted 10 years with a hall of famer at MSU but can only last 1 with Woodson. Your opinion. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephul Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Just got done listening to Rabjohn's on JMV and there was never a plan to have Fife as the coach in waiting. Rabjohn's said one thing the athletic department was upset with Fife was his tweets about NIL. He told players it is not about NIL and it should be about playing for IU. Rabjohn's even told Fife that was not a smart thing to say since IU is trying to establish itself with the NIL. Fife told Rabjohn that he got reprimanded for those comments. This makes sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 36 minutes ago, Inequality said: Bad look when another member of the IU family walks away. Like I said earlier in the year, wouldn’t be surprised if Fife ends up at Michigan should a spot open up. He didn't walk away but was not retained 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaloisGroupe Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Absolutely. Debate is healthy. Show me a guy who surrounds himself with "yes men" and I will show you a bad leader. There is a difference between not being a "yes men" and not obeying decided policy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 The soap opera at Indiana continues! Coach and roster turnovers in the new coaches first year don't look good. Hopefully one day the sh?? show called Indiana basketball will get their ducks in a row. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, 02Hoosier said: I don’t mean this in a rude way, but would you rather have a dysfunctional coaching staff leading to division in the locker room and other issues? If there were true issues going on among the staff I’d prefer it to be fixed sooner rather than later. Not offended. Adults should be able to get rid of dysfunction. I have been working a hell of a long time (knock on wood). There are people who lack the personal skills to get along. Personally, i can. I find it to be a weakness of people who cannot. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Let me see if I have this right. Fife has a great position for 10 years . Loves IU fans love him. Is lured away to be on staff and presumably the coach in waiting only to be let go by the coach that was forced to have him on staff to begin with. I feel for Dane and his family. Very good people I hate this for them He was never the coach in waiting and wasn't in his contact per Rabjohn's 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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