RoadToZion Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Soooooo Dexter is on campus today. I'd really like to pick him up. Seal the deal Woody. I would like him to commit before he visits Clemson. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: Soooooo Dexter is on campus today. I'd really like to pick him up. Seal the deal Woody. I would like him to commit before he visits Clemson. totally uninformed opinion here. admitting up front that i am probably wrong and clearly in the minority, but this one scares me. adding a non offensive guard from a weaker conference makes me think of other failed transfers. get that he would bring defense and experience, but i'm nervous about a non offensive player in our starting lineup. if it's between him and Reneau, i would be so much more excited about Reneau. the nice thing about being skeptical/pessimistic is that if i am wrong here, i will be happy to be wrong! 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 42 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: totally uninformed opinion here. admitting up front that i am probably wrong and clearly in the minority, but this one scares me. adding a non offensive guard from a weaker conference makes me think of other failed transfers. get that he would bring defense and experience, but i'm nervous about a non offensive player in our starting lineup. if it's between him and Reneau, i would be so much more excited about Reneau. the nice thing about being skeptical/pessimistic is that if i am wrong here, i will be happy to be wrong! I truly don't believe we are looking at an 'either/or' situation. I said this earlier, but I believe more and more everyday that TJD is not coming back. This writing is on the wall: we are actively recruiting 2 players for 2 different positions. Two campus visits in two days. Only one open scholarship if TJD stays. #math Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephul Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: I truly don't believe we are looking at an 'either/or' situation. I said this earlier, but I believe more and more everyday that TJD is not coming back. This writing is on the wall: we are actively recruiting 2 players for 2 different positions. Two campus visits in two days. Only one open scholarship if TJD stays. #math But we also have competition for both. You don't recruit one and not the other when you could really use both. They are probably the two best players that fit us. We need a talent upgrade everywhere. Recruit the best players, regardless of position when you have an open scholarship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Just now, ephul said: But we also have competition for both. You don't recruit one and not the other when you could really use both. They are probably the two best players that fit us. We need a talent upgrade everywhere. Recruit the best players, regardless of position when you have an open scholarship. But we don't need an upgrade in that position if TJD stays. It's arguably our deepest position next year. Does a 5 star recruit realistically show this much interest in IU if TJD is believed to be coming back? The freshman year minutes wouldn't be there for a recruit of his caliber. Now, if a lower rated guy, willing to develop on the bench for his first season was coming in then I'd say you have a point. If we were actively recruiting 2 wings, then I'd also say you have a point. But it's Reneau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephul Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: But we don't need an upgrade in that position if TJD stays. It's arguably our deepest position next year. Does a 5 star recruit realistically show this much interest in IU if TJD is believed to be coming back? The freshman year minutes wouldn't be there for a recruit of his caliber. Now, if a lower rated guy, willing to develop on the bench for his first season was coming in then I'd say you have a point. If we were actively recruiting 2 wings, then I'd also say you have a point. But it's Reneau. That's a matter of opinion. I absolutely think we could use an upgrade at the 4/5. Having three guys (assuming Reneau would be able to step in as a freshman) would be HUGE. Durr proved to be pretty limited this past season. Having three guys, and even four if you count Geronimo playing the four, would allow Trayce and Race to play much more aggressive on the defensive end. And give Trayce a bit of a breather throughout games. It also would allow us to keep a nice offensive flow throughout the game. How many times did Trayce and Race come out of the game, and we were left beating our heads against a wall? You are assuming that Reneau is an all world player. How do you know Reneau is expecting to come in and start? How do you know he's ready for that? Reneau could look at being able to be eased into college and practicing with some veteran big guys as a positive. Is the 4/5 as critical position as a guard that can shoot? No. But if we can't find a significant upgrade at that position, you take the significant upgrade at the 4/5. There's no reason to gamble or take a lesser transfer at the guard position just for the optics or "hoping" it's an upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, ephul said: That's a matter of opinion. I absolutely think we could use an upgrade at the 4/5. Having three guys (assuming Reneau would be able to step in as a freshman) would be HUGE. Durr proved to be pretty limited this past season. Having three guys, and even four if you count Geronimo playing the four, would allow Trayce and Race to play much more aggressive on the defensive end. And give Trayce a bit of a breather throughout games. It also would allow us to keep a nice offensive flow throughout the game. How many times did Trayce and Race come out of the game, and we were left beating our heads against a wall? You are assuming that Reneau is an all world player. How do you know Reneau is expecting to come in and start? How do you know he's ready for that? Reneau could look at being able to be eased into college and practicing with some veteran big guys as a positive. Is the 4/5 as critical position as a guard that can shoot? No. But if we can't find a significant upgrade at that position, you take the significant upgrade at the 4/5. There's no reason to gamble or take a lesser transfer at the guard position just for the optics or "hoping" it's an upgrade. I hope you're right. But let's not kid ourselves, top 30 guys typically don't walk into a scenario where they are the 4th guy in a 4 guy rotation for 2 spots. It's possible, but that just doesn't happen these days unless you are Duke or Kentucky. I really hope I'm wrong, but the chances of Race, TJD, JG and Reneau all on the roster next year are extremely low, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephul Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: I hope you're right. But let's not kid ourselves, top 30 guys typically don't walk into a scenario where they are the 4th guy in a 4 guy rotation for 2 spots. It's possible, but that just doesn't happen these days unless you are Duke or Kentucky. I really hope I'm wrong, but the chances of Race, TJD, JG and Reneau all on the roster next year are extremely low, IMO. Agreed. He's got a lot of places he can go where he'll know he's going to step in and play right away. But even being that 3rd guy, he'd get his fair share of minutes assuming he's ready for them. How many minutes did Trayce play out of necessity? Durr just wasn't good unless we played Purdue, or another rare team with a plodding big man. And injuries happen too. But you're right, Trayce may have very well told the staff that the chances of him returning are slim. But even with Trayce and Race back, Reneau is more of a fit at the 4 and 5 than Geronimo, so if he's decent, he's going to log meaningful minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 3 hours ago, NCHoosier32 said: totally uninformed opinion here. admitting up front that i am probably wrong and clearly in the minority, but this one scares me. adding a non offensive guard from a weaker conference makes me think of other failed transfers. get that he would bring defense and experience, but i'm nervous about a non offensive player in our starting lineup. if it's between him and Reneau, i would be so much more excited about Reneau. the nice thing about being skeptical/pessimistic is that if i am wrong here, i will be happy to be wrong! I'll join you in that minority. Not sold on this one, but I'll be happy to be wrong if he selects IU and flourishes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 58 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: I hope you're right. But let's not kid ourselves, top 30 guys typically don't walk into a scenario where they are the 4th guy in a 4 guy rotation for 2 spots. It's possible, but that just doesn't happen these days unless you are Duke or Kentucky. I really hope I'm wrong, but the chances of Race, TJD, JG and Reneau all on the roster next year are extremely low, IMO. I think it's a bit of an assumption that JG would be ahead of Reneau, no? We've seen a few flashes from JG, but he averaged 4 PPG as a sophomore with plenty of chance to earn a lot of minutes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I think it's a bit of an assumption that JG would be ahead of Reneau, no? We've seen a few flashes from JG, but he averaged 4 PPG as a sophomore with plenty of chance to earn a lot of minutes. Point being...there's a log jam there. You are talking hypotheticals. I'm talking math. The recruitment of Malik and DD was never an 'either/or' situation. Malik just announced his commitment. It's very likely the staff knew this yesterday. Yet, they are still recruiting DD who is on campus right now even though all scholarships are taken. Thus, someone on the current roster may not be coming back. Most logical departure still seems to be TJD. Then perhaps JG. Then perhaps Logan? Edited April 18, 2022 by tdhoosier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 minute ago, tdhoosier said: Point being...there's a log jam there. You are talking hypotheticals. I'm talking math. The recruitment of Malik and DD was never an 'either/or' situation. Malik just announced his commitment. It's very likely the staff knew this yesterday. Yet, they are still recruiting DD who is on campus right now even though all scholarships are taken. Thus, someone on the current roster may not be coming back. Most logical departure still seems to be TJD. Then perhaps JG. Then perhaps Logan? I agree with you that it wasn't an either/or. I think Malik committing means JG or Logan is probably on the outs, yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 With Malik coming onboard, does IU take someone like Dexter and call it a day or are there any other targets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Yuri Collins, played for Saint Louis and led the nation in assists, has entered the portal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobSaccamanno Posted April 18, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 1. I want Dennis. 2. I want TJD back. 3. I want JG and Duncomb to stay. 4. I want too much. 5 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: 1. I want Dennis. 2. I want TJD back. 3. I want JG and Duncomb to stay. 4. I want too much. I thought this through a little... I DO want Trayce back...And if he wants to, I've pretty much talked myself into the fact that regardless of what we like or don't, it is a business anymore...Sometimes unpopular decisions have to be made to make the business prosper, and I'm good with that... And I think we have the right guy making those decisions... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephul Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 36 minutes ago, ThePaulieWalnuts said: With Malik coming onboard, does IU take someone like Dexter and call it a day or are there any other targets? I would think you'd take Dexter and call it a day. It'd be a seriously upgraded roster from the outside looking in. Experienced and big. Only question mark would be shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 McNeil from WV visiting this weekend according to Jon Rothstein. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasbjd Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 (edited) The deadline for declaring for the Transfer Portal and receiving the sit-out exemption is May 1...so we shall know how it all shakes out soon enough. Edited April 18, 2022 by fasbjd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: McNeil from WV visiting this weekend according to Jon Rothstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1215 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 If McNeil goes to Ohio state I’m gonna be a little mad about it. He has the shooting we need and have been missing. Dexter may be a great defender, but our missing element is shooting. Maybe we will get better at that over the summer. We need to, can’t be worse. Plus F the buckeyes… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Bryant building a roster. Former Memphis G Earl Timberlake is transferring to Bryant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, BobSaccamanno said: 1. I want Dennis. 2. I want TJD back. 3. I want JG and Duncomb to stay. 4. I want too much. one of my favorite songs... I Want It All (And I want it now) by Queen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 i don't know why, but i keep thinking Jeremiah Rivers with Dennis. just not excited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 18, 2022 Report Share Posted April 18, 2022 Dawson Garcia headed back home to Minnesota....and good for him. Closer to home with all the family stuff is probably best move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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