FKIM01 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, Hoosier51 said: LSU Brandon Murray headed to Georgetown. As bad as they were last year, have to give Ewing credit for getting him, he is a pretty good pickup. That says more about Brandon's lack of judgment than it does about Ewing's prowess. Just a bad, bad decision on his part. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 People pooh-poohing the prospect of player development forget that Victor Oladipo went from 20.8% from distance as a sophomore to 44.1% as a junior. Why on earth would you make the assumption that a team will be no better by bringing back the same players with another year of development/experience? Unless your coach is Patrick Ewing, that's just a silly assumption. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison22 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: Why on earth would you make the assumption that a team will be no better by bringing back the same players with another year of development/experience? My guess is some people are skeptical of assumed improvement because the graphic below shows Coach Archie Miller's record after 4 years of development/experience (compared to Woodson's one year). We've been through this before. "Coach Knight knows what he's doing" (he admits he slacked off in the final years and went fishing.) Then "Help is on the Way" from Mike Davis. Then "Trust Coach Crean." Then "Trust Coach Miller." All promises about the future that never happened. I hope we're better next year. Maybe we'll be a LOT better. But I'll believe it when I see it on the floor, and that doesn't include padding a schedule with easy wins just to tilt the record. I want a good nationally ranked team again that is relevant at the end of the year. Edit: Coach Woodson did indeed improve upon this graphic this past season. Edited April 12, 2022 by Madison22 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 38 minutes ago, IU Scott said: This year in the big ten should show you that a guy can improve greatly in one year. Davis at UW went from being a role player to be an AA and Murray at Iowa did the same thing. That would be freaking sweet if Bates or Geronimo became 1st team all Americans 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: People pooh-poohing the prospect of player development forget that Victor Oladipo went from 20.8% from distance as a sophomore to 44.1% as a junior. Why on earth would you make the assumption that a team will be no better by bringing back the same players with another year of development/experience? Unless your coach is Patrick Ewing, that's just a silly assumption. The conversation started way earlier with the posting of an espn article putting IU top 25 and 3rd amongst B1G teams mentioned. Jumping from 10th to 3rd while possibly losing its best player is extremely unlikely by every possible reasonable measure. If Bates and Geronimo make Olidipo jumps then yeah sure. Since Olidipo IU has shown little incremental jumps. New regime that showed some in season player developmen,t that can let hope arise again but it's all hope until it comes to fruition. We need fresh fruit. Ill also take B1G start now material type of guy on the wing. Edited April 12, 2022 by NotIThatLives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: The conversation started way earlier with the posting of an espn article putting IU top 25 and 3rd amongst B1G teams mentioned. Jumping from 10th to 3rd while possibly losing its best player is extremely unlikely by every possible reasonable measure. If Bates and Geronimo make Olidipo jumps then yeah sure. Since Olidipo IU has shown little incremental jumps. New regime that showed some in season player developmen,t that can let hope arise again but it's all hope until it comes to fruition. We need fresh fruit. Ill also take B1G start now material type of guy on the wing. They had us third with TJD on the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BGleas Posted April 12, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 I'm a Trey Galloway fan! I think he's perfect for 20-25mpg off the bench, and I kind of view him as a 6th starter. There is a reason some of IU's best lineups and best performances came with TG on the court this season. I also don't think he needs to slow down at all. His speed and aggressiveness are his greatest asset. I do think he'll improve even more as the game continues to of down for him, but I don't think he really needs to slow down. IMO he's a huge part of where this program is going. With that said, he's not the star, he's a role guy, but a role guy that just gets better and better as the talent around him is better. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: They had us third with TJD on the team To which i commented our ceiling is 5th without and Ive been lectured about player growth for going on 10 hours. I guess I should lower my standards and be happy with a 5th place finish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: To which i commented our ceiling is 5th without and Ive been lectured about player growth for going on 10 hours. I guess I should lower my standards and be happy with a 5th place finish. I would say that most big ten teams losing their best player might have lower expectations. This is why I hope TJD doesn't drag this along slowly because if he leaves we need to be able to replace him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Who ya got? trey Galloway or Ethan Morton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU_Realist Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 TJD is currently not positioned to be drafted in the first or early second. Unless he somehow develops a jump shot during workouts I think it is a pretty good chance that it happens unless he transfers or decides Europe or the G league is for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Who ya got? trey Galloway or Ethan Morton Galloway 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Who ya got? trey Galloway or Ethan Morton An uninjured Galloway 7 days a week and twice on Sunday 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier51 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Who ya got? trey Galloway or Ethan Morton Galloway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 58 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Who ya got? trey Galloway or Ethan Morton Is this a serious question? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) I think I posted this in the right thread, not sure any more. I had to check twice to make sure I wasnt in the IU off season thread or the 2022-23season thread or the what will IU look like next season thread. Holy S$^t all these threads are the same. Edited April 12, 2022 by Indykev 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Indykev said: I think I posted this in the right thread, not sure any more. I had to check twice to make sure I wasnt in the IU off season thread or the 2022-23season thread or the what will IU look like next season thread. Holy S$^t all these threads are the same. Wrong thread. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 are there any suitors for KL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 34 minutes ago, ledies22 said: are there any suitors for KL? Archie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ledies22 said: are there any suitors for KL? 27 minutes ago, rico said: Archie? I'd think once burnt, lesson learnt... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ledies22 said: are there any suitors for KL? Alford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post macomb hoosier Posted April 12, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Galloway's Big Ten FG% went from 42 (20-21) to 48.5 (21-22). He strengthened up now finishes well at the rim. He doubled his Ft attempts (.8 to 1.7) suggesting he was willing to take contact more this year. Sight test bears that out. His Big Ten 3ptFG went from 18.2 to 26.3. Obviously not great, but an improvement. It doesn't seem unreasonable to expect him to get above 30% next year, which will open all kinds of driving space and lead to a corresponding improvement in fg%. He went from a half steal a game (.4) to a steal a game. His assist numbers didn't improve, but Woody's trust in having him run point as back up says a bunch (about how much he trusts TG/didn't trust his other options). He showed leadership as a sophomore and is the only guy besides X with a FU edge on the court. Hard not to be a fan of his game. I'm looking forward to him putting more pieces together next year. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 hours ago, ledies22 said: are there any suitors for KL? Butler if Coach Matta will have him. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 14 hours ago, IU Scott said: IF UM brings all 3 back they will be the top team in the big ten. I guess we will have to wait to see if Howard is interested in the Lakers job I'd be surprised if he leaves now with 2 sons on his team, but yes we shall see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 14 hours ago, FKIM01 said: People pooh-poohing the prospect of player development forget that Victor Oladipo went from 20.8% from distance as a sophomore to 44.1% as a junior. Why on earth would you make the assumption that a team will be no better by bringing back the same players with another year of development/experience? Unless your coach is Patrick Ewing, that's just a silly assumption. The issue I have with relying on player improvement is that it doesn't occur in a bubble - the players on other teams will be working to get better too. So unless we see dramatic improvements you may not make any ground relative to opponents. It's been a while since any IU player has improved immensively over the previous season. The biggest predictable gains are either: 1) You lose less production from departing players than other teams, or 2) You add more talent than those opponents. As it stands we may be ahead of the rest of the B10 on the first item, and possibly on the second (depending on how much contribution the freshman make and/or we do anything substantial in the portal). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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