Brandon Newman Commits to Purdue

[5 championships]

It's honestly kind of the nature of the business i mean college coaches lose players to the pros every year/transfers and some of them are not good decisions. At some point when you get into the coaching business you have to realize your going to lose some players and I know every situation is different but Brandon is just trying to better himself so as a coach I couldn't really be mad but probably more selfishly disappointed because of how much better he could of made my team. In in the end though the kid is just trying to find the best way to achieve his dream. 

Honestly why would Archie want players moving out of the state? I'd much rather keep my players im recruiting in state for the ability to recruit them easy and have them close to the program making it easier to get them on campus. Moving him out of state just exposes him to more programs and increases the competition to get thst player.

Im not sure how this IU told him to leave crap started but it doesn't make any sense. Sounds more like a decision the Newman camp made to improve his exposure and game. 

[dgambill]

9 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Bottom line is that I want Brandon Newman at IU. Go get him Archie

Agreed. If he and Carton both committed that could be a deep guard rotation with Robert, Al, Green, Carton, and Brandon! I could see why Brandon would want to get a jump on his college career. Be easy to get buried on that depth chart if it washed out that way!

[ElectricBoogaloo]

39 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Nope. You didn't explain yourself at all. I just wanted to be clear about what you were saying before I responded.. good grief. Touchy much? Dont worry I'll never ask anything of you again. Lol

HS coach has every right to not be happy with Newman and Races decisions. 

Again, play your game with someone else. 

[dgambill]

2 minutes ago, 5 championships said:

It's honestly kind of the nature of the business i mean college coaches lose players to the pros every year/transfers and some of them are not good decisions. At some point when you get into the coaching business you have to realize your going to lose some players and I know every situation is different but Brandon is just trying to better himself so as a coach I couldn't really be mad but probably more selfishly disappointed because of how much better he could of made my team. In in the end though the kid is just trying to find the best way to achieve his dream. 

Honestly why would Archie want players moving out of the state? I'd much rather keep my players im recruiting in state for the ability to recruit them easy and have them close to the program making it easier to get them on campus. Moving him out of state just exposes him to more programs and increases the competition to get thst player.

Im not sure how this IU told him to leave crap started but it doesn't make any sense. Sounds more like a decision the Newman camp made to improve his exposure and game. 

If a HS coach was to start losing his best players to prep schools too often I’m pretty sure his job would be in jeopardy. It might happen here and there...especially to families that travel and move around a lot like kids that didn’t grow up there...but the ground swell for his removal would be quick and powerful if anything resembling a trend appeared. A coach that can’t keep his own best players and families think he isn’t improving his kids etc won’t last long at a big school or basketball rich community. In Indiana that could be a career killer.

[Hoosier Guy]

6 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Agreed. If he and Carton both committed that could be a deep guard rotation with Robert, Al, Green, Carton, and Brandon! I could see why Brandon would want to get a jump on his college career. Be easy to get buried on that depth chart if it washed out that way!

And there’s always the possibility of Romeo staying two years

[dgambill]

Just now, Hoosier Guy said:

And there’s always the possibility of Romeo staying two years

Outside an injury that ain’t happening. Lol If he stayed we would be a championship contender imo. Also I would imagine someone would transfer very likely as well or someone decommit. Be a nice problem to have but I’m pretty sure Archie and company are selling these kids on him being one and done.

[Hoosier Guy]

26 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Outside an injury that ain’t happening. Lol If he stayed we would be a championship contender imo. Also I would imagine someone would transfer very likely as well or someone decommit. Be a nice problem to have but I’m pretty sure Archie and company are selling these kids on him being one and done.

I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility

[btownqb]

45 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Again, play your game with someone else. 

Literally zero clue what you're talking about. I asked a question to be clear on something and you were rude. That's on you. 

You wont even discuss the topic at hand. Smh. 

[milehiiu]

1 hour ago, rico said:

I will have to dig into it.  But there was a distance rule.

Being an out of state guy, I am not aware of a distance rule.  However, you could be right.  Back in the day when Gary Lew Wallace was still a school, Reynaldo Thomas, in order to showcase Brandon Dawson, scheduled plenty of schools from out of state.  And then, of course there is always the home and home agreements that can come along with that.  Which, in the case of Lew Wallace, resulted in 11 games played against out of state opponents, the year after BJ graduated.  Schools from Michigan, Wisconsin, Kentucky and Missouri were on the Wallace schedule, the year after Brandon left.  It took years for Thomas to build up those relationships.  But it can be done.

Then of course, there is Lalu that plays from coast to coast.  But I believe is not governed by the IHSAA. 

[rico]

2 minutes ago, milehiiu said:

Being an out of state guy, I am not aware of a distance rule.  However, you could be right.  Back in the day when Gary Lew Wallace was still a school, Reynaldo Thomas, in order to showcase Brandon Dawson, scheduled plenty of schools from out of state.  And then, of course there is always the home and home agreements that can come along with that.  Which, in the case of Lew Wallace, resulted in 11 games played against out of state opponents, the year after BJ graduated.  Schools from Michigan, Wisconsin, Kentucky and Missouri were on the Wallace schedule, the year after Brandon left.  It took years for Thomas to build up those relationships.  But it can be done.

Then of course, there is Lalu that plays from coast to coast.  But I believe is not governed by the IHSAA. 

LaLu is not in the IHSAA

[milehiiu]

Just now, rico said:

LaLu is not in the IHSAA

That's what I thought.  Reason why they can travel coast to coast, and why some schools in the IHSAA refused at one time to schedule them. 

Been to Penguin Point, lately ?

[rico]

3 minutes ago, milehiiu said:

That's what I thought.  Reason why they can travel coast to coast, and why some schools in the IHSAA refused at one time to schedule them. 

Been to Penguin Point, lately ?

Was there yesterday!!!!!!!

[milehiiu]

2 minutes ago, rico said:

Was there yesterday!!!!!!!

Cool !

[rico]

2 minutes ago, milehiiu said:

Cool !

Big Wally and a chocolate shake.

 

[btownqb]

2 hours ago, Blazin Hazin said:

In the case of Race Thompson- he graduated high school early and re-classified.  I realize that's his decision, and it probably benefited us, and it could benefit him.  Also- I have no idea if that was encouraged by the staff, presented as an option, or something Race and his parents decided to do entirely himself.

However....if I was a high school coach and it seemed like Archie was really pressing him to do this, would I at the least a little disappointed.  And yes- some coaches would take it personally if they felt a college coach encouraged a kid to leave high school early....especially if it was just to redshirt.  And if high school coaches felt like every time Archie recruited a kid, he never stays for a senior year, then I could definitely see some taking it personally or at least getting really stressed.  

Again, I never said that Archie is encouraging kids to leave for prep schools, nor that he is pressing kids to graduate quickly.  I'm just saying that I could see these types of situations being ones that put college and high school coaches at odds with one another and need to be handled carefully.  And even if college coaches do all the right things, there's probably been more than a few high school coaches that weren't happy with a college coach for a situation like this.  

You're correct and they absolutely should be upset with archie about that. But I highly doubt he would do that. 

[Seeking6]

This thread got me thinking. Disappointment from head coach,etc...can have an impact on future recruiting.

Does anyone know or have any stories where a head coach let's say despised Knight or Davis/Sampson/Crean and the kid/recruit still wanted to go to IU just because it's IU? Can move to another thread or post in off topic. Just made me curious. I know the high school coaches play an integral part. Would love to hear stories where a coach said no way and the player said yes way to IU.

[ADegenerate]

25 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

This thread got me thinking. Disappointment from head coach,etc...can have an impact on future recruiting.

Does anyone know or have any stories where a head coach let's say despised Knight or Davis/Sampson/Crean and the kid/recruit still wanted to go to IU just because it's IU? Can move to another thread or post in off topic. Just made me curious. I know the high school coaches play an integral part. Would love to hear stories where a coach said no way and the player said yes way to IU.

I’ve been thinking of doing a General Recruiting thread similar to my nba one because I think there’s a lot of strategy, theory, speculation, etc to go over but I’m not sure if we want to take away from each recruits threads. Maybe one of the mods can start one if they think its a good idea.

[ADegenerate]

Just some random thoughts here. If I was a recruit and the big academies were after me then I would bail in a heartbeat. If I’m that good then it’s obvious that I have a real shot at being a professional...if that’s true then I have to maximize my chances of that...I think I could definitely do that by going to a specialist school that’s surrounded by other likeminded people as me. I could get used to being on a ‘professional’ team in a ‘professional setting’ with the travel and exposure there while prepping specifically for the next level. In fact I’d kind of see HS as a little bit beneath me. 

Of course that’s very general statement and I’m not saying it’s always go or always stay but I genuinely believe that going the academy route is better. As an IU fan I’d rather our players be academy players as well because  the competition and practices are probably better (I could be wrong there but don’t think so, open to being wrong at least).

 

[INDenizen]

I think the distance is 300 miles. My bro-in-law is a hs baseball coach and he can take his team to Nashville for early season games, but that is as far as he can go.

I'm assuming it would be the same distance for other sports.

[btownqb]

Theres no chance I would bail on my teammates. 

[ADegenerate]

13 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Theres no chance I would bail on my teammates. 

It's basketball. You owe them nothing when it comes to your career management. Just my take. There's so many variables.

[btownqb]

4 minutes ago, ADegenerate said:

It's basketball. You owe them nothing when it comes to your career management. Just my take. There's so many variables.

As a teammate you owe them everything. That's how a team works. 

You play 8-9 aau tournaments a year.. along with camps and showcases. To think you need prep school is silly. Especially not in the state of indiana with our HS. 

Again... I would never bail on my teammates that are counting on me. 

[Indykev]

11 minutes ago, ADegenerate said:

It's basketball. You owe them nothing when it comes to your career management. Just my take. There's so many variables.

I agree with this. If something is going to better you why would you let anyone get in the way of that.

[rico]

35 minutes ago, INDenizen said:

I think the distance is 300 miles. My bro-in-law is a hs baseball coach and he can take his team to Nashville for early season games, but that is as far as he can go.

I'm assuming it would be the same distance for other sports.

Sounds right.

[rico]

10 minutes ago, btownqb said:

As a teammate you owe them everything. That's how a team works. 

You play 8-9 aau tournaments a year.. along with camps and showcases. To think you need prep school is silly. Especially not in the state of indiana with our HS. 

Again... I would never bail on my teammates that are counting on me. 

Not if the teammates "drag" you down from your goals.