dgambill Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 I think both you guys have legitimate arguements. The difference I see is that Newman looks more like a 3-4 year player and by year 3 and 4 could be an elite shooter and scorer. Ramsey is a game wrecker...a guy that can get his own shot, shoots a respectable percentage from distance but is able to create for himself and his teammates. He likely would shoot a much higher percentage from 2 as his length and athleticism should allow him to get high percentage looks. The big difference I see is that Ramsey is a more physical player and one that fits perfectly into Archie’s defense. Playing next to Phinesee and Anderson and Hunter and hopefully Brooks and Al maybe Green we should have plenty of shooters...maybe no Blackmon but respectable shooting. That said I get chills putting him and TJD in pick and roll situations though. Ramsey I think would likely be a 2 year player perhaps. I love pure shooters so Newman would always have a place on my team...but I would not turn away a player the caliber of Ramsey....a two way player and no slouch shooter in his own respect. Ramsey has a certain Russell Westbrook to his game. In a perfect world we could have both...but this team is pretty deep (something we haven’t had in a while) so I doubt both would commit. I don’t think we could go wrong with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, dgambill said: I think both you guys have legitimate arguements. The difference I see is that Newman looks more like a 3-4 year player and by year 3 and 4 could be an elite shooter and scorer. Ramsey is a game wrecker...a guy that can get his own shot, shoots a respectable percentage from distance but is able to create for himself and his teammates. He likely would shoot a much higher percentage from 2 as his length and athleticism should allow him to get high percentage looks. The big difference I see is that Ramsey is a more physical player and one that fits perfectly into Archie’s defense. Playing next to Phinesee and Anderson and Hunter and hopefully Brooks and Al maybe Green we should have plenty of shooters...maybe no Blackmon but respectable shooting. That said I get chills putting him and TJD in pick and roll situations though. Ramsey I think would likely be a 2 year player perhaps. I love pure shooters so Newman would always have a place on my team...but I would not turn away a player the caliber of Ramsey....a two way player and no slouch shooter in his own respect. Ramsey has a certain Russell Westbrook to his game. In a perfect world we could have both...but this team is pretty deep (something we haven’t had in a while) so I doubt both would commit. I don’t think we could go wrong with either. They are both fine player for sure. Newman does one thing especially well which is shoot. And right now it’s looking like Damezi will be our sharpshooter off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 If for some reason we had 4 openings I’d take both for certain. I could see Ramsey playing both guard positions and having Newman and Anderson off the bench would be perfect compliments to play alongside both Ramsey and Phinesee. I think we could easily have 4 openings as I think both Smith and Hunter have special qualities that could lead one or the other to go pro. We are so deep though and on so many top recruits I could also see someone leaving too. We have potential for a very crowded front court. I think we could continue to play small at the 4 but even so if both Brooks and TJD commits that is a lot of talented wings and guys like Moore and Forrester and Davis might feel odd man out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: watch this one, lots of chatter about an IU decision In what timeframe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: In what timeframe? Wrong person, should be watching Franklins decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dgambill Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, china423 said: Dang that Holtman!! If he steals Newman away on top of Carton....going to be some salty fans around here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 5, 2018 Report Share Posted September 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, dgambill said: Dang that Holtman!! If he steals Newman away on top of Carton....going to be some salty fans around here! If we get Brooks, TJD and either Franklin or Ramsey I will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 Hurry up Mr. Newman your time is running out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Per @bryan200088, according to Rabjohns, Newman may be cancelling his visit after the Franklin commit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Guy Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Wouldn’t surprise me one bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Bet we see him in the Big ten next year...OSU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Facing both Newman and Carton?? Yikes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Doesn’t surprise me .. kind of bummed. Staff must know something we don’t, otherwise I wouldn’t think they would risk not getting Newman on campus by trying hard to get Franklin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, Bowhunter said: Doesn’t surprise me .. kind of bummed. Staff must know something we don’t, otherwise I wouldn’t think they would risk not getting Newman on campus by trying hard to get Franklin. Yea seems to me Archie liked Armaan equally at a minimum to Newman or else those visits would be flipped. If you asked me two days ago, I would have said Newman before Armaan by a hair. However, Armaans combo guard potential may actually be more of a need than Newmans pure SG potential if Damezi can stroke it already with one more year experience over a freshman Newman. I think I changed my mind to Armaan, but it's splitting hairs...both good players. Welcome aboard Armaan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 It came down to who committed first. Archie is on a great group of kids, if you want a spot you better take it or it might be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 I feel kinda bad if IU was indeed his first choice, which it seems like it was. Tried to transfer, had to deal w family stuff and move back. Hope he’s successful anywhere he goes(except purdue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 54 minutes ago, Max said: I feel kinda bad if IU was indeed his first choice, which it seems like it was. Tried to transfer, had to deal w family stuff and move back. Hope he’s successful anywhere he goes(except purdue). He had his chance. That's the potential price you pay for waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 4 hours ago, Max said: I feel kinda bad if IU was indeed his first choice, which it seems like it was. Tried to transfer, had to deal w family stuff and move back. Hope he’s successful anywhere he goes(except purdue). I wish the kid success no matter where he goes even Purdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Is he definitely canceling his visit or just rumor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 9 hours ago, ArchieBall13 said: Yea seems to me Archie liked Armaan equally at a minimum to Newman or else those visits would be flipped. If you asked me two days ago, I would have said Newman before Armaan by a hair. However, Armaans combo guard potential may actually be more of a need than Newmans pure SG potential if Damezi can stroke it already with one more year experience over a freshman Newman. I think I changed my mind to Armaan, but it's splitting hairs...both good players. Welcome aboard Armaan! I want the guy who wants to play for our beloved HOOSIERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Max said: I feel kinda bad if IU was indeed his first choice, which it seems like it was. Tried to transfer, had to deal w family stuff and move back. Hope he’s successful anywhere he goes(except purdue). I feel bad for family situation but he had his chance and other recruits take note if you want to be a Hoosier act quickly if not good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Guy Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Yeah focus turns to HH. I’m sure Franklin will be there. But we know of Ramsey, Keion and TJD. Maybe Stewart as well. IU is in a great position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 Wish Newman the best. If he decides to cancel visit I certainly can understand. I'll say the same thing again. Take note future recruits. You don't say yes early...you lose out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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