btownqb Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 I don't see Izzo and Dantonio surviving this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 I could see Emmert resigning over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Report: NCAA President Mark Emmert Was Personally Informed About 37 MSU Athlete Sex Assault Cases In 2010, Did Nothing Headlines such as this, cause me to wonder about the NCAA investigation into UNC. Did Emmert look the other way in that case as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosrnight Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Report: NCAA President Mark Emmert Was Personally Informed About 37 MSU Athlete Sex Assault Cases In 2010, Did Nothing Headlines such as this, cause me to wonder about the NCAA investigation into UNC. Did Emmert look the other way in that case as well ? Of course he did. He couldn’t have his cash cows going down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Report: NCAA President Mark Emmert Was Personally Informed About 37 MSU Athlete Sex Assault Cases In 2010, Did Nothing Headlines such as this, cause me to wonder about the NCAA investigation into UNC. Did Emmert look the other way in that case as well ? Didn't look the other way. Just tobacco attorneys doing what they do. Basically found a way to win and executed. I'll paraphrase of what UNC counsel said to NCAA. Stay in your lane. You don't have the authority to sanction us. Hate it....but it was great legally. Emmert will see this one through temporarily but my guess is he'll head back to Washington sometime during 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosrnight Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 33 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: I could see Emmert resigning over this. I hope he does, maybe then the NCAA can start doing things the right way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Report: NCAA President Mark Emmert Was Personally Informed About 37 MSU Athlete Sex Assault Cases In 2010, Did Nothing Headlines such as this, cause me to wonder about the NCAA investigation into UNC. Did Emmert look the other way in that case as well ? I’ll never understand why FSU’s scandal was “academic fraud” leading to sanctions and vacated wins but UNC’s scandal was “outside the jurisdiction of the NCAA”. Lesson to all major universities...don’t help athletes cheat in real courses, instead create fake classes anyone can enroll in with zero attendance and A grades that require no actual work...nothing wrong with that in Emmert’s eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1K Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Yes I get at the time he was new on the job but there were 37 allegations that got reported and they chose to do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hoosier82 said: I’ll never understand why FSU’s scandal was “academic fraud” leading to sanctions and vacated wins but UNC’s scandal was “outside the jurisdiction of the NCAA”. Lesson to all major universities...don’t help athletes cheat in real courses, instead create fake classes anyone can enroll in with zero attendance and A grades that require no actual work...nothing wrong with that in Emmert’s eyes At it's purest point. Because the sham classes were open to regular students too...not just student athletes. No impermissible benefit. It's kind of like the player dorms UK and Kansas have. They are allowed if it's not housing for players only. Has to meet a ratio of some sort. I remember one example where relatives or friends of players would live there also. Always a way to manipulate the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 What I found interesting from The Atlantic article is that it seems like Emmert is basically powerless when it comes to these things. The article had a source, Redmond, which said Emmert told her the right things and he came into the job with good intentions, but he quickly realized the Board of Govenors controls everything and Emmert is their puppet. With that said, taking down Emmert would be taking down the figure head, someone needs to sniff out this NCAA Board of Govenors and take them down. That would be cutting the head off the snake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 This is going to be interesting. Both head coaches should be fired. But, both the university President and the AD are gone. Are interims going to have the clout to make this decision? Are the Board of Regents going to back them? Or are they going to play the "let the legal investigation play out " game? Who in their right mind would even consider taking either position if it has not been resolved? How long could any university continue with interim leadership? I hope that this is handled quickly and definitively. This cannot turn into the sham that the UNC situation did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jerry Lundergaard said: This is going to be interesting. Both head coaches should be fired. But, both the university President and the AD are gone. Are interims going to have the clout to make this decision? Are the Board of Regents going to back them? Or are they going to play the "let the legal investigation play out " game? Who in their right mind would even consider taking either position if it has not been resolved? How long could any university continue with interim leadership? I hope that this is handled quickly and definitively. This cannot turn into the sham that the UNC situation did. I was wondering last night watching the AD’s (Hollis) presser where he announced his retirement, if maybe that move was made in an effort to try and save/shield Izzo And D’Antonio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jerry Lundergaard said: This is going to be interesting. Both head coaches should be fired. But, both the university President and the AD are gone. Are interims going to have the clout to make this decision? Are the Board of Regents going to back them? Or are they going to play the "let the legal investigation play out " game? Who in their right mind would even consider taking either position if it has not been resolved? How long could any university continue with interim leadership? I hope that this is handled quickly and definitively. This cannot turn into the sham that the UNC situation did. If you were the new President and AD would you want to be attached to these guys and their past transgressions related to this scandal? To me it’s simple, clean house otherwise the new pres and AD show up on campus with a bullseye on their chests. I have to imagine a good enough of the boosters and fans want this era behind them as fast as possible too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 As a lighter aside on this heavy topic, one thing I think we all also largely agree on is that if this were IU, there would be little doubt that IU would not have been turning the other cheek, or be evasive, or try to bury the topic, etc. I believe we all have reason to be proud of the way IU typically handles, and would likely handle, such an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 46 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: At it's purest point. Because the sham classes were open to regular students too...not just student athletes. No impermissible benefit. It's kind of like the player dorms UK and Kansas have. They are allowed if it's not housing for players only. Has to meet a ratio of some sort. I remember one example where relatives or friends of players would live there also. Always a way to manipulate the rules. I understand the technical loophole Emmert hid behind like a coward but I still believe he could have and should have been able to read between the lines and rule accordingly. The staggering ratio of athletes vs “civilians” in those classes was indefensible and there’s no way UNC could ever justify the creation of such classes other than an avenue to keep athletes eligible. You can always find an excuse to find a guilty party innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf50 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Izzo saying he is not going anywhere........if you sat on or covered abuse up and don’t go anywhere, then I’m sure someone will help you! I know several people who would love to help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookied39 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 19 hours ago, Hoosrnight said: Dantonio has come out and said the allegations against the football team are false! I will assume Izzo will as well. As I said before, I think both are done. MSU can’t keep either one after the Nassar stuff. This whole situation is utterly sad and pathetic. If MSU wants to keep any kind reputation, they won’t let them “retire”, they will fire them! I just do not think it will happen....unless recruits bail, and it looks like they will become a shell of a program with him at the helm. I imagine serious negative recruing will occur. Wonder if this has any effect on Brooks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Hoosier82 said: If you were the new President and AD would you want to be attached to these guys and their past transgressions related to this scandal? To me it’s simple, clean house otherwise the new pres and AD show up on campus with a bullseye on their chests. I have to imagine a good enough of the boosters and fans want this era behind them as fast as possible too. What parent would want their kid to attend MSU now? Whoever takes over at Msu needs to flat out clean house. That cloud/doubt will not go away until everyone is gone that knew and did nothing. That disgusting POS Dr. Isn't the only person that should be thrown in jail. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KoB2011 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, mookied39 said: I just do not think it will happen....unless recruits bail, and it looks like they will become a shell of a program with him at the helm. I imagine serious negative recruing will occur. Wonder if this has any effect on Brooks? This is going to be out of the sports people hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf50 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Just now, KoB2011 said: This is going to be out of the sports people hands. This is a very sad situation! Heads should roll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookied39 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: This is going to be out of the sports people hands. Oh....I understand that. I mean it was the athletic department that suppressed all this crap....not to mention who is left in charge right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Attorney general announces probe into Michigan State University's handling of Larry Nassar sex abuse claims - Fox News https://apple.news/A2f6paP6DQsy4ocG0dP1C9w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Jerry Lundergaard said: Attorney general announces probe into Michigan State University's handling of Larry Nassar sex abuse claims - Fox News https://apple.news/A2f6paP6DQsy4ocG0dP1C9w Good! I hope they really do find out who knew what and tried to cover it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just sit back and see how it unfolds. It will be interesting as to how the Michigan legislature handles it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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