IU Scott Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, BGleas said: Not 7 months after the fact. That doesn't accomplish anything. There are a lot of players get suspended for games when the got in trouble in the off season. Just lady year Mason Gillis got arrested in the off season and still were suspended a couple of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: So now he's a kid. Gotcha. I guess should have said people and not kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: There are a lot of players get suspended for games when the got in trouble in the off season. Just lady year Mason Gillis got arrested in the off season and still were suspended a couple of games. Seems kind of dumb, but ok. I think those type of things are more for placating the fans that scream about this stuff online as opposed to being any kind of productive punishment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 minute ago, BGleas said: Seems kind of dumb, but ok. I think those type of things are more for placating the fans that scream about this stuff online as opposed to being any kind of productive punishment. Getting suspended a couple of games is better than getting kicked off the team which I thought should happen. So you don't think Dashawn Watson should get suspended a few games next season. What he did was 15 months ago and is not going to be criminally charged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Getting suspended a couple of games is better than getting kicked off the team which I thought should happen. So you don't think Dashawn Watson should get suspended a few games next season. What he did was 15 months ago and is not going to be criminally charged. Apples and oranges. Completely different offenses/accusations and there are numerous differences between college and pro, with a big one being that punishments at the pro level are collectively bargained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, BGleas said: Apples and oranges. Completely different offenses/accusations and there are numerous differences between college and pro, with a big one being that punishments at the pro level are collectively bargained. So is there anything a college player does in the off season that you think a player should get suspended for. Is it just an offense bad enough to get kicked off for and everything else you shouldn't discipline a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Real punishment is missing games and not just running steps. I will be disappointed in Woodson if XJ isn't suspended a couple of games. It seems a much more serious offense (DUI) is worth a 1 game suspension (see: Few/Gonzaga). You're saying a player should be held to a higher standard than coaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 Just now, go_iu_bb said: It seems a much more serious offense (DUI) is worth a 1 game suspension (see: Few/Gonzaga). You're saying a player should be held to a higher standard than coaches? How many games did Gillis get last year for DUI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: How many games did Gillis get last year for DUI. No clue. I don't follow Purdue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 Just now, go_iu_bb said: No clue. I don't follow Purdue. 4 games including exhibition game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, IU Scott said: So is there anything a college player does in the off season that you think a player should get suspended for. Is it just an offense bad enough to get kicked off for and everything else you shouldn't discipline a player. Murder. I would say murder would get you suspended for awhile. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 Just now, btownqb said: Murder. I would say murder would get you suspended for awhile. I would hope that would get you kicked off the team but you are right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 Just now, IU Scott said: 4 games including exhibition game So... are you to the point that you're arguing that XJ SHOULD be suspended? For real? Like.. even though you know like. 25% of the whole story/actions that night? Would you question RMK like this? Flat out. Don't understand. Why isnt.. "whatever Woodson, Dolson, and staff decide" good enough? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: So... are you to the point that you're arguing that XJ SHOULD be suspended? For real? Like.. even though you know like. 25% of the whole story/actions that night? Would you question RMK like this? Flat out. Don't understand. Why isnt.. "whatever Woodson, Dolson, and staff decide" good enough? Do I think he should get suspended, yes I do. It is up to the coaching staff and will support their decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, IU Scott said: So is there anything a college player does in the off season that you think a player should get suspended for. Is it just an offense bad enough to get kicked off for and everything else you shouldn't discipline a player. Who said anything about not disciplining him? A game 7 months later for speeding seems stupid though. I guarantee whatever Woodson did to punish him is far worse than missing an exhibition game that doesn't even count. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 43 minutes ago, IU Scott said: There are a lot of players get suspended for games when the got in trouble in the off season. Just lady year Mason Gillis got arrested in the off season and still were suspended a couple of games. He got a DUI, it's not at all the same. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, IU Scott said: So is there anything a college player does in the off season that you think a player should get suspended for. Is it just an offense bad enough to get kicked off for and everything else you shouldn't discipline a player. Plenty of things, but so far you've compared a DUI and sexual assault to speeding. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrus13 Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 XJ TJD Race Kopp Galloway Seniority rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin Hazin Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 Bart Torvik's numbers are here https://barttorvik.com/rosters23.php?team=Indiana&year=2022 I don't agree with all of these, but I do think this is a healthy counterbalance to the message board crowd that often prefers potential over experience. (Although I have a hard time envisioning Kopp getting 26 min, while Geronimo gets 7.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted May 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 10 hours ago, hoosier_exotics said: If you listen to the Kenya podcast of hoosier hysterics, he pretty much says JHS will be starting g with X. To me the 3 spot is the only question mark. Bates, JG, or Kopp... i really think this is the only debate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 11 hours ago, hoosier_exotics said: If you listen to the Kenya podcast of hoosier hysterics, he pretty much says JHS will be starting g with X. To me the 3 spot is the only question mark. Bates, JG, or Kopp... I agree with you. If Woodson goes with seniority, Kopp will start. But if not, it's wide open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, slojoe said: I agree with you. If Woodson goes with seniority, Kopp will start. But if not, it's wide open. I would guess seniority is merely a tie-breaker, which it should be when no one clearly establishes themselves as the starter IMO. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 I am definitely excited with all the returning talent and top level freshman coming in. But is anybody else concerned that we have not necessarily solved one glaring weakness? We still do nqt have that athletic wing that can defend at a high level, and create for himself on the offensive side. I know we expect TB to take a step forward. But until something is shown, I think it is our glaring weakness. Even more than perimeter shooting. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, bluegrassIU said: I am definitely excited with all the returning talent and top level freshman coming in. But is anybody else concerned that we have not necessarily solved one glaring weakness? We still do nqt have that athletic wing that can defend at a high level, and create for himself on the offensive side. I know we expect TB to take a step forward. But until something is shown, I think it is our glaring weakness. Even more than perimeter shooting. I don’t want to split hairs of wings vs guards, but if we are playing JHS and X side by side, doesn’t that more or less do what you’re asking for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted May 21, 2022 Report Share Posted May 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I don’t want to split hairs of wings vs guards, but if we are playing JHS and X side by side, doesn’t that more or less do what you’re asking for? Absolutely! If TB can make a jump and take that 3 spot, we will have major talent on the perimeter. All with the ability to create their own shot.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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