Hoosierinbham Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Look at how many rushers are moving the OL back into the QB face True, but what about when rolls put and has time? He tends take bad choices or throws about half the time as his stats show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Just now, Hoosierinbham said: True, but what about when rolls put and has time? He tends take bad choices or throws about half the time as his stats show. He doesnt though. They're still in his face, or WRs arent open.. Bazelak complaints are strange man. And we certainly don't have anyone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, DireBump said: I think all 5 of those games are winnable as well, it's long season. There is a lot left to play for. Just need to play clean football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: It was the best our running game had looked in two years vs a Power 5 opponent, so yes. Better today but take out the one long run it wasn't great. I just dislike the predictability of the majority of the run game and it seems to be slow in developing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: This just isn't true and you need to use a lens of reality. He is under excessive pressure due to Hiller's poor offensive protection, but he makes poor decisions and throws when he has time. That's not debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: He doesnt though. They're still in his face, or WRs arent open.. Bazelak complaints are strange man. And we certainly don't have anyone better. We'll agree to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Hoosierinbham said: He is under excessive pressure due to Hiller's poor offensive protection, but he makes poor decisions and throws when he has time. That's not debatable. He regularly makes the right decision. Thats not debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 The running game seems to take forever to get moving ,but crazy how many defensive guy’s or in our backfield when we hand it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said: True, but what about when rolls put and has time? He tends take bad choices or throws about half the time as his stats show. Most the time he is rolling out is because of the rush up the middle and aren't called rollouts. Not saying he doesn't make some poor decisions but I wouldn't replace him. Just look at our stats when Tuttle had started the last few years and we probably didn't score over 20 to often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: He regularly makes the right decision. Thats not debatable. If by regularly you mean 50% of the time, then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Do you think the second half defense was our defense stepping up or UC offense going conservative Its fair to say they may have came out a little flat but I thought the D line played really well all game.. head, Bryant, Elliot, Dasan got to QB.. if not for some massive coverage issues that lead to huge plays we played well enough on D to win… they had like what 50 yards of rushing ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBQ Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, DireBump said: I think all 5 of those games are winnable as well, it's long season. There is a lot left to play for. 12 minutes ago, btownqb said: Correct. I’m on board with this. When the team plays well they look good. Eliminating the dumb penalties and bad stretches is the key. This is the mindset that makes games like this hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Better today but take out the one long run it wasn't great. I just dislike the predictability of the majority of the run game and it seems to be slow in developing. I think Henderson should be lead back. Seems to have better vision than shivers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, 5 championships said: I think Henderson should be lead back. Seems to have better vision than shivers Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, BeerBQ said: I’m on board with this. When the team plays well they look good. Eliminating the dumb penalties and bad stretches is the key. This is the mindset that makes games like this hurt. Yes. McCulleys penalty was massive... we had the ball down 2TDs with 8 mins to go at the 50.. it was going to be 2nd and 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, OLDIUFAN said: Coaches, in my opinion Hiller has not developed any of them. We obviously aren’t recruiting are picking up stud lineman . You are absolutely right. OL is our biggest weakness by far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said: If by regularly you mean 50% of the time, then yes. This just isnt close to true lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUguy Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Yes, we need a better offensive line. Need some running plays that actually gain yards consistently. Need to protect the quarterback but he also needs to not miss so many open receivers. Also need to improve downfield pass coverage and/or the pass rush. Rush defense looks pretty good but we haven’t played Michigan yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 games or more than 1/3 of your season is enough data to say a few things. For the life of me when you have a kid like Shivers (speed) we keep trying to run delay, run delay between 4 and 6 holes. Please change that Walt. Please. I'm 50/50 on CB. At times he looks smart, decisive....but at times I'm watching a guy that just needs to make the progressions and throw to the wing or weak side out. Of course that depends on line of scrimmage and our OLIne. Injuries are a factor. They are in every game in programs our level. With that said. I see some winnable games and by no means is this one of those idiot posts I see on twitter questioning Allen. Make the adjustments. Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Nebraska, Sparty....all winnable. One loss on the road vs a P5 talent/program/team isn't the end of things gang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBQ Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, 5 championships said: I think Henderson should be lead back. Seems to have better vision than shivers I’m probably not football smart enough to see the small details, but I agree. I thought Jaylin Lucas looked good in the touches he’s had. The most frustrating thing to me with the offense is how they seem to have some really good pieces they don’t utilize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Yes. McCulleys penalty was massive... we had the ball down 2TDs with 8 mins to go at the 50.. it was going to be 2nd and 6. And the first guy doesn't get caught but the 2nd always does.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: 4 games or more than 1/3 of your season is enough data to say a few things. For the life of me when you have a kid like Shivers (speed) we keep trying to run delay, run delay between 4 and 6 holes. Please change that Walt. Please. I'm 50/50 on CB. At times he looks smart, decisive....but at times I'm watching a guy that just needs to make the progressions and throw to the wing or weak side out. Of course that depends on line of scrimmage and our OLIne. Injuries are a factor. They are in every game in programs our level. With that said. I see some winnable games and by no means is this one of those idiot posts I see on twitter questioning Allen. Make the adjustments. Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Nebraska, Sparty....all winnable. One loss on the road vs a P5 talent/program/team isn't the end of things gang. Injuries are everywhere. We dont have the depth to withstand losing multiple top players in the same position group. Just not a formula for winning. Edited September 25, 2022 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: This just isnt close to true lol So his completion percentage, in spite of a horrible offensive line is acceptable? We will not agree on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said: So his completion percentage, in spite of a horrible offensive line is acceptable? We will not agree on this. About 5-7 throws a game he saves a sack. Another 5-7 throws a game his under immense pressure,/doesnt get to set his feet/whatever else the OL messed up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 I know this is counter what makes sense...but I almost would like to see CB counter to his left. I feel like when he's going right when the pocket is collapsing he's off balance or throws against the grain,etc.... If our line is down with injuries I'd almost rather let the line block right....and have him counter back to the left so he gets his feet, shoulders, eyes all settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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