btownqb Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: To be fair, there is plenty to bitch about. 🤷♂️ Win this week and the grand scheme of things, no there isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, btownqb said: Win this week and the grand scheme of things, no there isn't. I disagree. Last season we were the worst team in the conference. This year, we may very well be again. I hope for the best, I cheer every week. But I just have not seen much to be encouraged about. I am 100% hoping I am wrong and we take off. Just have not seen anything to make ke me optimistic about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougWil Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, btownqb said: Win this week and the grand scheme of things, no there isn't. The first line I've seen has Maryland as a 10.5 point favorite in Bloomington. Are you predicting Indiana will pull off the upset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: I disagree. Last season we were the worst team in the conference. This year, we may very well be again. I hope for the best, I cheer every week. But I just have not seen much to be encouraged about. I am 100% hoping I am wrong and we take off. Just have not seen anything to make ke me optimistic about it. 4-3 if you win. 🤷♂️ Find 2 more. It's literally that simple. It's 100% its a week to week evaluation of Tom Allen, is what is.... win this week and we've got a shot. Edited October 9, 2022 by btownqb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, DougWil said: The first line I've seen has Maryland as a 10.5 point favorite in Bloomington. Are you predicting Indiana will pull off the upset? I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 I agree we need to win this week! Not just to keep our bowl hopes alive, but for the psyche of the team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, btownqb said: 4-3 if you win. 🤷♂️ Find 2 more. It's literally that simple. It's 100% its a week to week evaluation of Tom Allen, is what is.... win this week and we've got a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 It was time for Hiller to go, overdue. Does not make me happy. His firing means that the program failed. Failed in a hiring decision. Failed a group of players who he coached. Failed the rest of the team by his unit not holding up their part. I’m hoping that some new energy will elevate the O-line to perform better. I’m hoping that the new coach can get out of these guys what Hiller couldn’t. Attitude is everything and if there was mistrust and animosity between the players and their position coach, I’m hoping that is not a problem any longer. I also believe that the loss of Bedford was a huge blow to this unit and can’t be overlooked when evaluating the first 6 weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 This was an essential move for the program. Had to send a message to staff, current players and prospects that this level of performance won’t be allowed to continue. It had reached a player safety level of bad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 9 hours ago, DC2345 said: They didn’t have the $ If they had the money to go out and get Craig Johnson they had $500k to buyout Hiller. I believe this to be nothing more than a cop out/lame excuse from CTA if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 8 hours ago, mrflynn03 said: Wouldn't making a bowl game have paid for getting rid of Hiller sooner? Should have had some balls and acted sooner. It's just money anyway. CTA let Deland M. walk over this issue. It cost us Daeh, may cost us Desan in the offseason and most importantly, cost us perhaps the best RB coach in the country who can recruit with the best of em. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to be moving on from Hiller but this “cost savings” initiative cost the program tenfold. . 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-BONE Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 Won't expect much in the short term. Can our talent possibly be THIS bad? Hope not. Don't think we've had a good line since the Wilson days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-BONE Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Hoosier82 said: CTA let Deland M. walk over this issue. It cost us Daeh, may cost us Desan in the offseason and most importantly, cost us perhaps the best RB coach in the country who can recruit with the best of em. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to be moving on from Hiller but this “cost savings” initiative cost the program tenfold. . Yep. McCullough hurt on multiple levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Hoosier82 said: If they had the money to go out and get Craig Johnson they had $500k to buyout Hiller. I believe this to be nothing more than a cop out/lame excuse from CTA if true. Nope, when the coaches left that did they used that money to replace them. Allen had to pay to fire Sheridan not the athletic department and he wasn’t paying to replace 2 assistants himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Hoosier82 said: CTA let Deland M. walk over this issue. It cost us Daeh, may cost us Desan in the offseason and most importantly, cost us perhaps the best RB coach in the country who can recruit with the best of em. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to be moving on from Hiller but this “cost savings” initiative cost the program tenfold. . This was always message board bs. Notre Dame handed out the money $ to land a good running back coach. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Hoosier82 said: CTA let Deland M. walk over this issue. It cost us Daeh, may cost us Desan in the offseason and most importantly, cost us perhaps the best RB coach in the country who can recruit with the best of em. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy to be moving on from Hiller but this “cost savings” initiative cost the program tenfold. . Thats silly 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, DC2345 said: This was always message board bs. Notre Dame handed out the money $ to land a good running back coach. Thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Hoosier82 said: If they had the money to go out and get Craig Johnson they had $500k to buyout Hiller. I believe this to be nothing more than a cop out/lame excuse from CTA if true. Yeah, Allen seems like someone that just blatantly lies and is an immoral person. Edited October 10, 2022 by btownqb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 hours ago, DC2345 said: This was always message board bs. Notre Dame handed out the money $ to land a good running back coach. DMC publicly turned down the Giants (to become the highest paid RB coach in the NFL) and was the 5th highest paid RB coach in the country in the one year he came back. He conceded in an interview that the Giants offer was more than ND’s (and that’s all we know because his ND salary isn’t public) and reiterated his main goal to become a college head coach saying “success at ND would put me in a position to achieve that”. He gave up an AHC role to leave IU despite his stated goal. It tells you everything you need to know. This move had nothing to do about money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 20 hours ago, bluegrassIU said: I disagree. Last season we were the worst team in the conference. This year, we may very well be again. I hope for the best, I cheer every week. But I just have not seen much to be encouraged about. I am 100% hoping I am wrong and we take off. Just have not seen anything to make ke me optimistic about it. 100% correct. There is nothing to like about this TEAM, except a couple of good players on each side of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 hours ago, btownqb said: Yeah, Allen seems like someone that just blatantly lies and is an immoral person. Allen ain't got time for lying or being immoral. He better be working on a game plan that can get a victory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 My thoughts, can the New O line coach make a big difference right away! No I don’t think so. Hopefully we will show improvement before season end. If he’d had a cure I think he would have already stepped forward with it. Will a better offensive line help some of our other ills. Yes, Maybe we could stay on the field longer and help keep the defense fresher. Maybe we could actually score, that might make the other team take some chances! Could get more turnovers! Could help our QB be more accurate! Have a better run game! I don’t see the OLine players everyday so don’t know we got some studs are the new guy will need to hit the transfer Portal hard! I think he will need to score some big time linemen in the Portal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Hoosier82 said: DMC publicly turned down the Giants (to become the highest paid RB coach in the NFL) and was the 5th highest paid RB coach in the country in the one year he came back. He conceded in an interview that the Giants offer was more than ND’s (and that’s all we know because his ND salary isn’t public) and reiterated his main goal to become a college head coach saying “success at ND would put me in a position to achieve that”. He gave up an AHC role to leave IU despite his stated goal. It tells you everything you need to know. This move had nothing to do about money. I never said it was all about money. However it was a factor. By going to Notre Dame he got closer to being a college head coach. The AHC role is nothing more than a title used to add some extra bucks to a contract and allows that coach to step in if the HC ever has to miss any time. Him leaving wasn’t about the OL coach but believe what you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I never said it was all about money. However it was a factor. By going to Notre Dame he got closer to being a college head coach. The AHC role is nothing more than a title used to add some extra bucks to a contract and allows that coach to step in if the HC ever has to miss any time. Him leaving wasn’t about the OL coach but believe what you want. So you are saying we should have made Deland our HC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, rico said: So you are saying we should have made Deland our HC? No, I was just stating why he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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