IU247 Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 So what names could get in the mix? Liberty is expected to make swings at some active head coaches, due to its resources. Coastal Carolina head coach Jamey Chadwell hasn’t been able to get Power 5 bites, despite his massive success at Coastal, opening the possibility of other Group of 5 jobs that pay a lot more, like USF. (And unlike USF, Liberty has won recently.) Chadwell is 31-5 over the past three years at Coastal, and he’s won everywhere he’s been. He was the lowest-paid FBS head coach before the breakout season in 2020, later doubling his salary to more than $1 million. Liberty can offer him a lot more. But would leaving the Sun Belt for Conference USA be a step up? Liberty could also make a push for other Sun Belt names like Georgia Southern head coach Clay Helton and James Madison head coach Curt Cignetti. Indiana head coach Tom Allen has had a rough two years since the breakout season of 2020. After a top-15 finish that year, the Hoosiers have gone 2-10 and 4-8 in the past two seasons, including 2-16 in Big Ten play. Could a break be beneficial for both sides? His buyout is massive, at $20 million if Indiana wanted to fire him even after the 2023 season. But the buyout on Allen’s end to leave drops to $4 million on Dec. 1, which is plenty manageable. His salary is right around $5 million, something we know Liberty could pay, as it did for Freeze. Allen and Freeze also go back more than a decade together. Of course, leaving a Big Ten job for a Conference USA job would be basically unprecedented, but multiple industry sources have mentioned Allen’s name as one to potentially watch. https://theathletic.com/3948746/2022/11/29/liberty-football-coach-candidates-freeze-auburn/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, IU Scott said: How is it immoral to keep a job for money because he has bills to pay as well How would you feel if you were poor at your job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, rico said: How would you feel if you were poor at your job? I would keep my job until they let me go. I had a job as a custodian at a high school that was a midnight shift. I didn't like it because I thought I should have a better job since I had a degree. I had s hard time because I always were btitef do I did a half ass job done of the time. I still kept the job because I was a single father and needed a job. I kept it until I found something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 If Tom left, which won’t happen, go get Deion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, KDB said: If Tom left, which won’t happen, go get Deion. Only if they put in his contract that no one could call him coach prime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, KDB said: If Tom left, which won’t happen, go get Deion. Why would he even think of coming to IU. I would assume if he goes to another program it will be in the South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 Just now, IU Scott said: Why would he even think of coming to IU. I would assume if he goes to another program it will be in the South. Why would he think of going to Colorado? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, KDB said: Why would he think of going to Colorado? I doubt he will go there but Colorado does have a better history than IU. They have played for a national championship Edited November 29, 2022 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-BONE Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 This SI guy doesn't have a positive interpretation of the coaching staff. https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/tom-brew-my-two-cents-indiana-brutal-football-season-over-so-does-player-exodus-begin I don't know obviously, but the part about Tuttle in the offseason competition and being voted captain, etc. is definitely interesting to consider. And the fact that both Ramsay and then Penix followed DeBoer. Damn that smarts. Just feels like the wheels have totally fallen on and a re-set is inevitable, even if not immediately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, D-BONE said: This SI guy doesn't have a positive interpretation of the coaching staff. https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/tom-brew-my-two-cents-indiana-brutal-football-season-over-so-does-player-exodus-begin I don't know obviously, but the part about Tuttle in the offseason competition and being voted captain, etc. is definitely interesting to consider. And the fact that both Ramsay and then Penix followed DeBoer. Damn that smarts. Just feels like the wheels have totally fallen on and a re-set is inevitable, even if not immediately. Well if this is true about Bell I can't see a reason you don't let him go. I never thought his high up tempo offense correlated with a defensive minded coach. If your HC is a defensive coach then you want more of a run oriented offense with big OL. It appears that Bell wants slimer o lineman and that isn't confusing to running the ball well in the big ten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 6 hours ago, KDB said: If Tom left, which won’t happen, go get Deion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Being a religious school, Liberty and Allen might be a match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, D-BONE said: This SI guy doesn't have a positive interpretation of the coaching staff. https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/tom-brew-my-two-cents-indiana-brutal-football-season-over-so-does-player-exodus-begin I don't know obviously, but the part about Tuttle in the offseason competition and being voted captain, etc. is definitely interesting to consider. And the fact that both Ramsay and then Penix followed DeBoer. Damn that smarts. Just feels like the wheels have totally fallen on and a re-set is inevitable, even if not immediately. Don't believe Ramsey followed DeBoer as he played at Northwestern after leaving IU to complete a graduate degree in Sports Administration. He's a teacher in Cincinnati now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, rico said: I'd add Frank Reich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 hours ago, D-BONE said: This SI guy doesn't have a positive interpretation of the coaching staff. https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/tom-brew-my-two-cents-indiana-brutal-football-season-over-so-does-player-exodus-begin I don't know obviously, but the part about Tuttle in the offseason competition and being voted captain, etc. is definitely interesting to consider. And the fact that both Ramsay and then Penix followed DeBoer. Damn that smarts. Just feels like the wheels have totally fallen on and a re-set is inevitable, even if not immediately. This article has a lot of truth to it. It’s always interesting to see what gets out and what does not. If Allen wants to be successful he needs to fire Bell asap and try to find lightning in a bottle again on offense like he did with DeBoer. Can’t change the past but the most important note here is CTA has lost most of this team. He seems to continue to have blind faith in the wrong people. It’s still shocking to me how he allowed Tuttle to be treated. I said some of the stuff in here months ago, there was a reason Tuttle was voted captain by the team. Yet I sadly find myself realizing that wouldn’t have changed much with Hiller still around. Just a matter of time before all these QBs got hurt, it was just as glaring a problem in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-BONE Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 8 hours ago, jv1972iu said: Don't believe Ramsey followed DeBoer as he played at Northwestern after leaving IU to complete a graduate degree in Sports Administration. He's a teacher in Cincinnati now. Thank you for the correction on my egregious memory lapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, D-BONE said: Thank you for the correction on my egregious memory lapse. Hardly egregious. Shoot, I had no clue what had happened to Ramsey. I knew he had transferred to Northwestern and played for them as a grad student. But I had to do a little digging to see if he maybe ended up at UW. I always thought that he might find his way into coaching. He's just starting at the high school level. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 6 hours ago, iuthruandthru said: This article has a lot of truth to it. It’s always interesting to see what gets out and what does not. If Allen wants to be successful he needs to fire Bell asap and try to find lightning in a bottle again on offense like he did with DeBoer. Can’t change the past but the most important note here is CTA has lost most of this team. He seems to continue to have blind faith in the wrong people. It’s still shocking to me how he allowed Tuttle to be treated. I said some of the stuff in here months ago, there was a reason Tuttle was voted captain by the team. Yet I sadly find myself realizing that wouldn’t have changed much with Hiller still around. Just a matter of time before all these QBs got hurt, it was just as glaring a problem in 2021. Hiller, Bell, and Bazelak. Nothing personal against them as people, but very poor decision making by CTA to allow how he handled them to affect the team culture. Blind faith is a great way to describe it. I wondered who chose, and stubbornly, stuck with Connor. That needs to be addressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 I would be shocked if CTA said I want a different QB, and the OC said NO. Watching this poor QB play week after week. I read he threw for over 2000 yards! So what we throw the ball 70% of the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BobSaccamanno Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 They may want him. Allen had experienced some success at IU and anyone with common sense knows that a B1G East schedule is a tough ask at IU. Plus he knows that area extremely well and he should pull in recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OLDIUFAN Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Does anyone actually know is Coach Allen even looking at these other jobs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, OLDIUFAN said: Does anyone actually know is Coach Allen even looking at these other jobs! He doesn’t seem like a guy who would do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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