Lurker Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: Lots of hoops to not admit Purdue got a damn good player. 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Not really... I do think 3 games does not a college career make... If he turns out to be "damn good" I'll have no trouble admitting it... I think he's shown he's good, especially in Purdue's system with the dominant big. I thought I remembered reading that CMW had to be sold on Cupps. I'm fine with going after guys like JHS and if he leaves after this year, like I expect him to, go get another like him or bring in a veteran from the portal. Apparently CMW turned away a couple of possible transfers, which was fine for this year. There may be several openings for next year and hopefully the portal will fill any needs that new recruits can't. I wanted Smith when Archie was coach but I'm fine with trusting CMW to assemble the roster as he sees fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, btownqb said: Then we know zero about Malik and JHS. Not quite zero, but they have a ways to go to be in IU's Parthenon of greats... I'd say anyone you'd ask though would deem them more physically ready for the rigors of Big 10 basketball than Smith is... Edited November 16, 2022 by IUFLA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lurker said: I think he's shown he's good, especially in Purdue's system with the dominant big. I thought I remembered reading that CMW had to be sold on Cupps. I'm fine with going after guys like JHS and if he leaves after this year, like I expect him to, go get another like him or bring in a veteran from the portal. Apparently CMW turned away a couple of possible transfers, which was fine for this year. There may be several openings for next year and hopefully the portal will fill any needs that new recruits can't. I wanted Smith when Archie was coach but I'm fine with trusting CMW to assemble the roster as he sees fit. I see no reason not to trust CMW and his recruiting I think you guys should look at recruiting like I do. If you didn’t add a single 2024 freshman just a transfer or two…your team is fine developing the talent you have trust the process and player development 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Not quite zero, but they have a ways to go to be in IU's Parthenon of greats... I'd say anyone you'd ask though would deem them more physically ready for the rigors of Big 10 basketball than Smith is... the only thing Malik hasn’t shown is consistent 3 point shot and defense which all freshman adjust too the roles they played in MV are the same as IU still excited to see them against Xavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: I see no reason not to trust CMW and his recruiting I think you guys should look at recruiting like I do. If you didn’t add a single 2024 freshman just a transfer or two…your team is fine developing the talent you have trust the process and player development This isn't me questioning CMW, to be clear. This is just me pointing out Braden can PLAY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: This isn't me questioning CMW, to be clear. This is just me pointing out Braden can PLAY. I think you were the first guy to say offer him now! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 33 minutes ago, Lurker said: I think he's shown he's good, especially in Purdue's system with the dominant big. I thought I remembered reading that CMW had to be sold on Cupps. I'm fine with going after guys like JHS and if he leaves after this year, like I expect him to, go get another like him or bring in a veteran from the portal. Apparently CMW turned away a couple of possible transfers, which was fine for this year. There may be several openings for next year and hopefully the portal will fill any needs that new recruits can't. I wanted Smith when Archie was coach but I'm fine with trusting CMW to assemble the roster as he sees fit. This isn't me criticizing Woodson. I am PERFECTLY fine with the path we chose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison22 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 31 minutes ago, IUFLA said: they have a ways to go to be in IU's Parthenon of greats... Here's a real picture of Wilt Chamberlain in front of the Parthenon. I'm just trying to add to the conversation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted November 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Madison22 said: Here's a real picture of Wilt Chamberlain in front of the Parthenon. I'm just trying to add to the conversation. And he definitely belongs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Hoosier82 said: Edey won you that game. Marquette’s guards already don’t play any sort of competent defense. You mix that with the constant sagging/swarming of Edey every time the ball got into the lane, it was mostly shooting practice for Smith. Hey played well and took what MU generously gave him but that won’t be a recipe for success against better teams, especially those who have guys who can check Edey. I’m shocked to see how uninvolved Gillis, Furst and Kaufman have been thus far. Painter needs to get them going quickly. How many teams will have guys who can check Edey though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 hours ago, FKIM01 said: I'm with you, but it brings up the age old question, is one season of JHS better than four seasons of Smith? I'd disagree with anyone who says that A is clearly better than B. If A nets you a national championship and it brings in 3 more players of his level it does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 hours ago, IU Scott said: If the players are comparable I would take the 4 year players. Like it would have been better to have 4 years of Etwaun Moore over 1 year of Eric Gordon. I see people say that getting a one and done will help your program moving forward I don't buy it unless you are UK or Duke. How did Vanderbilt gettt Garland change the programs future. He didn’t play for them now did he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: How many teams will have guys who can check Edey though? Edey can't beat us. Edited November 16, 2022 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 hours ago, FKIM01 said: Agree. I was posing the great debate of one vs. the other rather than both. One vs. the other is very much a worthy debate and I can't say with any certainty which is better. Smith for four years certainly looks to be a very good thing for Turdue, but if JHS jump starts an elite train of point guards at IU, I can't argue against that either. Like John Wall did for Kentucky. If JHS and Reneau and company really take off you could see IU start a run of top flight recruits. These things can snowball….in a good way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: How many teams will have guys who can check Edey though? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, btownqb said: Edey can't beat us. Depends on how Woodson plays it. If he doubles him, it’ll come down to others hitting shots. If he doesn’t double him, Edey could go off. Would TJD or Race guard him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: How many teams will have guys who can check Edey though? - Run as much as you can - Make Edey play very hard on the defensive end There could be a few bumps in the road deploying those strategies, but by the last 10 minutes Edey will be spent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cthomas Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 4 hours ago, btownqb said: Then why did we recruit Cupps? We've had the Cupps commitment for quite a while. Woodson saw something in him that he liked and offered. And I think his measureables are somewhat better than Smith's. I'm not knocking Smith at all because I wanted him at IU bad. I just think CMW saw something he really liked and we took Cupps. And the kids he is looking at and offering seem to fit a certain template. Going forward, I just don't see CMW making either a first choice type of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, btownqb said: This isn't me questioning CMW, to be clear. This is just me pointing out Braden can PLAY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Some media and Purdue boards think Edey is Hakeem Olajuwon. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: Some media and Purdue boards think Edey is Hakeem Olajuwon. For real. Edey is tall - really tall, but that's it. He's a decent player who is really tall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: Some media and Purdue boards think Edey is Hakeem Olajuwon. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Would Smith start for IU? JHS is. The debate shouldn't be JHS for 1 vs BS for 4 it should be JHS for 1 and whoever else for 3 vs BS for 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: Some media and Purdue boards think Edey is Hakeem Olajuwon. In their 'Dream'. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Just now, 5fouls said: In their 'Dream'. Of the "wet" variety. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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