hoosierBGH Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Its a message board. 90% of what we do is speculate. Of course we speculate but speculation is not necessarily panic. If I, and I suspect many others, wanted constant panic we'd be reading the other board right now. They do the panic thing a whole lot better..... they have a lot more practice. Frankly, right now, I'm more worried about Archie's connections than I am Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Agree with the posters that say currently there is no real ground to penalize IU. Also agree with posters saying we should not be so confident on how clean our program has been run. Hopefully we haven't been dirty, but I wouldn't put any money down that we weren't playing the game. If nothing else this process has all shown us its par for the course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Don't love seeing our name in any of this. But, this email is not really a problem. We didn't sign or even get a visit from Bowen, and our players didn't sign with their agency. We should be nervous just like everyone else in college basketball, but this email is nothing to get worked up about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Somehow, me thinks StlBoiler is having some chuckles tonight....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Somehow, me thinks StlBoiler is having some chuckles tonight....... He shouldn’t. But he probably is since he thinks the Swanigan recruitment was squeaky clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierBGH Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Why is it I'm starting to get the impression that some seem to actually look forward to IU being implicated in this mess just so they have another reason to throw Crean under the bus? He's gone from IU, his carcass has been run over by the bus so many times that there is hardly a recognizable stain remaining behind and yet some still cannot seem to let it go. He left IU much better than he found it and however this whole FBI thing turns out, it seems his biggest failing will be that he didn't cheat hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrosws20 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: He shouldn’t. But he probably is since he thinks the Swanigan recruitment was squeaky clean. Do chocolate chip cookies count as impermissible benefits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Just now, hoosierBGH said: Why is it I'm starting to get the impression that some seem to actually look forward to IU being implicated in this mess just so they have another reason to throw Crean under the bus? He's gone from IU, his carcass has been run over by the bus so many times that there is hardly a recognizable stain remaining behind and yet some still cannot seem to let it go. He left IU much better than he found it and however this whole FBI thing turns out, it seems his biggest failing will be that he didn't cheat hard enough. Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion after reading through the comments I just got done reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierBGH Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: He shouldn’t. But he probably is since he thinks the Swanigan recruitment was squeaky clean. Yes, the stink on that recruitment was discernible even over the normal stench of WL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUalum Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 OG as a projected first rounder?? ranked in the 200s I call BS on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrosws20 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, hoosierBGH said: Why is it I'm starting to get the impression that some seem to actually look forward to IU being implicated in this mess just so they have another reason to throw Crean under the bus? He's gone from IU, his carcass has been run over by the bus so many times that there is hardly a recognizable stain remaining behind and yet some still cannot seem to let it go. He left IU much better than he found it and however this whole FBI thing turns out, it seems his biggest failing will be that he didn't cheat hard enough. Anybody who thinks like that is straight classless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrosws20 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 minute ago, IUalum said: OG as a projected first rounder?? ranked in the 200s I call BS on that. No, this is during their IU days. The agent wanted OG and Thomas to use that agency for when they were to be drafted. If they did then we'd get Bowen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, IUalum said: OG as a projected first rounder?? ranked in the 200s I call BS on that. This happened during last season as Bowen was being recruited. Dawkins was trying to dangle delivering Bowen, who was a 2017 recruit, in exchange for current (as of last season) college players signing with his agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblaz13 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2018/02/23/ex-iu-basketball-assistant-chuck-martin-named-latest-yahoo-story-fbis-ncaa-basketball-probe/369543002/?from=new-cookie Indystar just published an article within the past hour.Remove if already shared somewhere, please . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 minute ago, BGleas said: This happened during last season as Bowen was being recruited. Dawkins was trying to dangle delivering Bowen, who was a 2017 recruit, in exchange for current (as of last season) college players signing with his agency. Ex-IU coach Chuck Martin may very well be dirty, but these two former IU studs did not take Andy Miller's bait! It said in the latest article in the Indystar.... Neither Anunoby nor Bryant signed with Andy Miller's ASM agency after leaving Bloomington. Martin didn't respond to IndyStar's request for comment. There was no crime here, besides, Chuck Martin doesn't work for IU anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Obviously it’s not good to have IU mentioned, and the Martin and Kenny Johnson eras on the IU staff are certainly troublesome, but as HH said IU backed off Bowen very early, never made a final 5 list for him and never even got a visit. While we should still be worried there doesn’t seem to be much on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Artesian_86 said: Ex-IU coach Chuck Martin may very well be dirty, but these two former IU studs did not take Andy Miller's bait! It said in the latest article in the Indystar.... Neither Anunoby nor Bryant signed with Andy Miller's ASM agency after leaving Bloomington. Martin didn't respond to IndyStar's request for comment. There was no crime here, besides, Chuck Martin doesn't work for IU anymore. Agree. I was just clarifying the timeline for IUAlum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 This is all just nuts. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrosws20 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Just now, ThePaulieWalnuts said: This is all just nuts. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Yep. Only one agency too. Who knows how much more they have on Andy Miller, but there are a ton of other agencies out there. Frankly, I think every kid is offered something. Some kids might not take it if they're from a well off family or they want to play for their dream school or something, but I'm sure every kid can be bought and paid for. This business is just filthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 53 minutes ago, Jerry Lundergaard said: No, nor am I going to get overly concerned until IU is offficially charged with an infraction. And, I am not going to extrapolate that just because Sean Miller may be guilty, doesn't mean a thing in regards to Archie. Surely you had a sibling that did something wrong that had nothing to do with who you are I’m talking about Chuck Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, ThePaulieWalnuts said: This is all just nuts. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Yup, gonna get nuts for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 And we thought excessive phone calls was dirty... I chuckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 I think it's completely naive to think offers aren't floated all of the time. Crean steadfastly alluded to losing out on players because he wasn't playing those games. How exactly do you think he knew a game was afoot? Offers were made, and Crean backed out. We recruited Whitehead, didn't get him, and our courtship of Bowen must have been so fast I missed it. to me, this revelation only supports what Crean was alluding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Yup, gonna get nuts for sure. Mounds don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Hoosier82 said: It appears as though he reached out to just about anyone and everyone. Well we know what Pitino meant by saying he fell into his lap..easiest recruit he ever got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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