ArchieBall13 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 46 minutes ago, milehiiu said: That he did. And I am going to add some more fuel to the fire. This past week, I was informed that Archie received a call from NA. And the person making the call was not Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 54 minutes ago, milehiiu said: That he did. And I am going to add some more fuel to the fire. This past week, I was informed that Archie received a call from NA. And the person making the call was not Tim. Mama Langford??? Seriously though I wonder if it has anything to do with an IU visit that was mentioned in the RL thread?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 I’m very sanguine on Archie. From everything I’ve seen, he’s putting in place a program that will be consistently competitive over the long haul. I think he’s going to do fine once he has time to build his roster and develop it. Next year, in my mind, will still be a work in progress. You’re going to have a lot of new faces and Archie’s style will always require discipline with the ball and understanding defense. I don’t think that stuff will translate immediately from many years of watching freshmen take their lumps. The nice thing is you will more than likely have a veteran in Morgan who takes leadership seriously and has a chance to be in the pantheon of greats because he’s such a team-oriented, well rounded player who gets what the Indiana on the front of the jersey means. But, the roster will still be biased to the young side. In time, my hunch is Archie will develop class balance with upperclassmen leading underclassmen every year and you will see a competitive program consistently except for the occasional one-off. I don’t know whether that’s characterized as a honeymoon, but realism is important. Archie could try for more of a quick fix, but that will lead to constant upheaval. He’s building for the duration. As long as he continues on the path he’s on, I have no doubts about the coach. But, it may be a couple of years until we are ready. Romeo, of course, could be a game changer but that’s just speculation right now as far as I know. Romeo or not, I’m looking for the correct trajectory and the signs of what Indiana people think constitutes good basketball. After that, the wins will fall into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Great post Bob!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, milehiiu said: That he did. And I am going to add some more fuel to the fire. This past week, I was informed that Archie received a call from NA. And the person making the call was not Tim. So was it Romeo but I hope it was not inform him of bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted March 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Mama Langford??? Seriously though I wonder if it has anything to do with an IU visit that was mentioned in the RL thread?? Nope. Romeo. And it did not have anything to do with a decision. Sorry... that is all I can share at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Thanks for sharing Mile. I hope it was positive..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Nope. Romeo. And it did not have anything to do with a decision. Sorry... that is all I can share at this time. Hopefully it was to set up a date for a visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted March 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Thanks for sharing Mile. I hope it was positive..... I honestly don't know the content of the call, other than it was not about a decision. If one takes a positive out of the call....it would be that Romeo initiated the call. Which references McHenry34's comment about Archie building this relationship from the ground up. All I was attempting to do was bolster that fact, based on what I had learned earlier this week. Guys.... please don't try to read into it more than what I have just shared with you.... IU and Archie are still in contact with each other. There is a relationship that continues to this date.... when once there was none between IU and Romeo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno6284 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: I’m very sanguine on Archie. From everything I’ve seen, he’s putting in place a program that will be consistently competitive over the long haul. I think he’s going to do fine once he has time to build his roster and develop it. Next year, in my mind, will still be a work in progress. You’re going to have a lot of new faces and Archie’s style will always require discipline with the ball and understanding defense. I don’t think that stuff will translate immediately from many years of watching freshmen take their lumps. The nice thing is you will more than likely have a veteran in Morgan who takes leadership seriously and has a chance to be in the pantheon of greats because he’s such a team-oriented, well rounded player who gets what the Indiana on the front of the jersey means. But, the roster will still be biased to the young side. In time, my hunch is Archie will develop class balance with upperclassmen leading underclassmen every year and you will see a competitive program consistently except for the occasional one-off. I don’t know whether that’s characterized as a honeymoon, but realism is important. Archie could try for more of a quick fix, but that will lead to constant upheaval. He’s building for the duration. As long as he continues on the path he’s on, I have no doubts about the coach. But, it may be a couple of years until we are ready. Romeo, of course, could be a game changer but that’s just speculation right now as far as I know. Romeo or not, I’m looking for the correct trajectory and the signs of what Indiana people think constitutes good basketball. After that, the wins will fall into place. Great post "BOB"! Dare I say, almost RMK Jr-ish? Early to Mid-nineties RMK is what I'm hoping for anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Nope. Romeo. And it did not have anything to do with a decision. Sorry... that is all I can share at this time. I hope it wasn't a Dear Archie call! Thanks for sharing what little you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said: Great post "BOB"! Dare I say, almost RMK Jr-ish? Early to Mid-nineties RMK is what I'm hoping for anyways. I'm with you Ryno, except without all of RMKs antics!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno6284 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, milehiiu said: IU and Archie are still in contact with each other. I hope IU and Archie are still in contact with each other! What the hell has happened since I went to sleep last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno6284 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, Proud2BAHoosier said: I'm with you Ryno, except without all of RMKs antics!!! Knowing you were dancing every year, with a legit shot of a final four every 3-4 years. Solid defense and disciplined offense. Balanced classes. Sign me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno6284 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, jefftheref said: I hope it wasn't a Dear Archie call! Thanks for sharing what little you can. I think Romeo coming here is the springboard of something greater than Archie coming here! Hold tight everybody, gonna be fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted March 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said: I hope IU and Archie are still in contact with each other! What the hell has happened since I went to sleep last night? Not wanting to turning this into a political discussion ( against our rules ). But since you ask... what has happened since you went to bed last night... Trump and KJU have agreed to meet.... kind of like Romeo calling Archie. Who'd a thunk it.... a year ago ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I can't help but think that's a positive sign that he feels so comfortable with a head coach (no offense to assistants) that he can call like that. Of course looking into a call is probably not the healthiest of things. Haha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I started evaluating him the moment we hired him, so in my mind no. I've never understood the notion that we should ignore data and information on a coach because he is new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno6284 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Not wanting to turning this into a political discussion ( against our rules ). But since you ask... what has happened since you went to bed last night... Trump and KJU have agreed to meet.... kind of like Romeo calling Archie. Who'd a thunk it.... a year ago ? Just busting your balls a little with the typo. I'm sure you meant romeo is still in contact with Archie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 If Romeo comes and Morgan is back most will expect to compete for the B1G title and a deep tourney run. If we have one or none are here an NCAA berth is probably enough to calm the masses. But no matter what happens his seat will be on fire in year 3 if we miss the tourney next season. Recruiting is goingto be very important too. A home run 2019 class will help calm the masses too. Ive said many times that between Romeo, TJD, and Brooks we must land 2 of the 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: If Romeo comes and Morgan is back most will expect to compete for the B1G title and a deep tourney run. If we have one or none are here an NCAA berth is probably enough to calm the masses. But no matter what happens his seat will be on fire in year 3 if we miss the tourney next season. Count me in the department that if we do get Romeo and Morgan comes back I'm not expecting a deep tourney run. Almost seems like expectations are so high in this scenario that you can say poor this or poor coaching,etc....seems a tad unrealistic. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I can't help but think that's a positive sign that he feels so comfortable with a head coach (no offense to assistants) that he can call like that. Of course looking into a call is probably not the healthiest of things. Haha.. Neither is a 140 page thread, but what can ya do??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 6 hours ago, 5fouls said: Honeymoon? I've had 9 of them. They are overrated. Seriously. There should be no honeymoon period for Archie. The program is not in the kind of shape it was when Crean took over. This is not a major rebuild. Archie has a team worthy of making the NCAA next year with or without Romeo. And, if he loses Romeo to Vandy, I think it's fair to ask why. I will never expect a championship. But the team should be capable of making the Sweet 16 every year. No excuses. Gotta call BS Fouls, honeymoons are NOT overrated, what comes after is! Honeymoons are awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Seeking6 said: Count me in the department that if we do get Romeo and Morgan comes back I'm not expecting a deep tourney run. Almost seems like expectations are so high in this scenario that you can say poor this or poor coaching,etc....seems a tad unrealistic. Just my opinion. I'm talking maybe an Elite 8. Romeo is better than Cody was and Cody inherited a 3-15 team with no impact recruits coming with him. We would've probably been in the FF his freshman year if we're not in Kentucky's bracket or if they don't have that once in a lifetime 35-37 night from the stripe. It's a very realistic expectation. Also, put Romeo on this year's team and we probably beat Duke, Purdue, MSU, OSU, Nebraska, and Illinois and easily make the tourney. Johnson, Hartman, and Freddie are not big losses. We're getting Deron back too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Okay, don't know what I'm saying, but going to say it anyway. Romeo is an awesome player no doubt, and any team would be better having him, but the question I have (and I have no clue) does Romeo fit CAM's system? I think CAM's success is going to come when he has players that buy in to what he is selling, we saw some of that this year. Will we see more of that next year,( I think so) Bottom line for me is, I'm buying what CAM is selling and I'm hopeful he can land some high level recruits that also are buying what he is selling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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