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Here is a blast from the past comparison.......Romeo and Jay Edwards. If you really think about it, Romeo's attitude and smooth basketball play resembles Jay Edwards a lot. Jay was DEADLY from 3 pt. range and silky smooth. I was a Sophomore in college when I met Jay and his side kick Lyndon Jones, both from Marion Indiana. One of my good friends went to school with them at Marion.

Unfortunately, that is about ALL the similarities there were between Romeo and Jay. Jay and Lyndon were either out smoking pot or drinking all hours of the day.  They never went to class either. These things were a big part of their unfortunate demise at I.U. during the Bob Knight years. 

When they were both on, MAN were they DEADLY! 

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33 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

Would you like me to take out his bad game(s) and change the percentages? Would it then be totally accurate, after removing one of his bad games, to say his percentages were higher? No, it doesn't work like that. Are you ignoring the three prior years when he shot 38.8%, 44.7%, and 37%? Yes, you are. 

He's a good shooter. Whether people don't think someone who shoots at least 37% over 4 years is "very" good is subjective, and I have no issue with that. I also don't think he's a "great" shooter, and did not say so. He was not able to develop his game to create his own shot more consistently after the key scorers around him left for the NBA/graduated. All the above does, from my standpoint, is to nitpick on a player you weren't big on. That's ok, but no, it's not totally accurate.

If you take out his worst game from last season (1-7 against Penn State), his average only goes from 37.3% to 38.2%.  That game also wasn’t an outlier at all, as he had a ton of other games with similar stat lines from three (1-5 against ISU, 1-6 against Arkansas State, Duke, Iowa, and Youngstown State, 2-7 against IPFW and MSU, 0-4 against UL).  Meanwhile his only other remotely comparable games to the Iowa game were against ND (5-10) and NW (5-11), and even then, he almost doubled those totals in the Iowa game.  So no, it’s really not inaccurate to throw out the 9-12 game when looking at his overall season.  I know you’re a big RoJo apologist, but he really was not a good shooter last season.  Bottom line is Romeo will have to be way better.

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18 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said:

If you take out his worst game from last season (1-7 against Penn State), his average only goes from 37.3% to 38.2%.  That game also wasn’t an outlier at all, as he had a ton of other games with similar stat lines from three (1-5 against ISU, 1-6 against Arkansas State, Duke, Iowa, and Youngstown State, 2-7 against IPFW and MSU, 0-4 against UL).  Meanwhile his only other remotely comparable games to the Iowa game were against ND (5-10) and NW (5-11), and even then, he almost doubled those totals in the Iowa game.  So no, it’s really not inaccurate to throw out the 9-12 game when looking at his overall season.  I know you’re a big RoJo apologist, but he really was not a good shooter last season.  Bottom line is Romeo will have to be way better.

I'm a big apologist, ok. You're just playing around with his stats, that's all this is and honestly, why? So again over 4 years he shot at least 37% and in one year 43%, but still ignored in your ambit to say he's a 35% shooter. I don't get the objective -- Romeo is Romeo, he'll shoot whatever he does, hopefully he'll shoot north of 37%, but he's an all-around scorer, and regardless he's almost certain to score well and efficiently.

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26 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

I'm a big apologist, ok. You're just playing around with his stats, that's all this is and honestly, why? So again over 4 years he shot at least 37% and in one year 43%, but still ignored in your ambit to say he's a 35% shooter. I don't get the objective -- Romeo is Romeo, he'll shoot whatever he does, hopefully he'll shoot north of 37%, but he's an all-around scorer, and regardless he's almost certain to score well and efficiently.

I’ve stated multiple times that I’ve only been talking about last season.  My whole point is that, outside of one crazy game, he shot 34.5% from three last season, which indicates that he was an average to below average shooter last season.  You’ve refused to acknowledge that, but you’re a big Rob fan, so I get it.

As to what my “objective” is, and how it relates to Romeo, the reason I’m bringing it up is that we didn’t have a single good three point shooter on the team last year.  For us to be a good team next year, Romeo will have to give us a lot more from behind the arc than RoJo did. 

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1 hour ago, Danomatic said:

Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but thought this might brighten someone’s day if needed. 😉

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Wow. Can you imagine getting all 3 of those guys? IU would be back up with the other blue bloods recruiting-wise with results-wise surely to follow.

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1 minute ago, FW_Hoosier said:

I’ve stated multiple times that I’ve only been talking about last season.  My whole point is that, outside of one crazy game, he shot 34.5% from three last season, which indicates that he was an average to below average shooter last season.  You’ve refused to acknowledge that, but you’re a big Rob fan, so I get it.

As to what my “objective” is, and how it relates to Romeo, the reason I’m bringing it up is that we didn’t have a single good three point shooter on the team last year.  For us to be a good team next year, Romeo will have to give us a lot more from behind the arc than RoJo did. 

This is why I was really hoping we'd add a grad transfer guard along with Langford. Consistent shooting will still be an issue. This roster still needs a light's out, spot-up guy that shoots in the 40's. Our best returning 3-pt shooter is McRoberts and he hardly ever shoots. Shooting will improved with Langford (assuming he comes), I'd expect improvement from Green, Morgan and Smith, and hopefully a few other freshmen can shoot well, but we still don't have that shooting specialist guy. 

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5 minutes ago, BGleas said:

This is why I was really hoping we'd add a grad transfer guard along with Langford. Consistent shooting will still be an issue. This roster still needs a light's out, spot-up guy that shoots in the 40's. Our best returning 3-pt shooter is McRoberts and he hardly ever shoots. Shooting will improved with Langford (assuming he comes), I'd expect improvement from Green, Morgan and Smith, and hopefully a few other freshmen can shoot well, but we still don't have that shooting specialist guy. 

100% agree.  The lack of consistent outside shooters is why I would still be hesitant to expect a top 10 ranking/deep tourney run even if we did get Romeo.  Funny that for years we bitched about how Crean’s offense was overly reliant on the three, and now that he’s gone, it looks like three point shooting is our biggest weakness.

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1 hour ago, cybergates said:

Wow. Can you imagine getting all 3 of those guys? IU would be back up with the other blue bloods recruiting-wise with results-wise surely to follow.

That’s the dream. I’ve waited 25 or so years for that. The first vividly remembered season for me was the stacked 92-93 season during peak Bobby mania when I was like 7 so in my mind IU was always going to be on top. Not that it’s been abysmal for the entirety since about 94-95 but to call it disappointing is probably selling it just a little short. I think it’s going to happen too! It all trickles down if Romeo commits.

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If CAM isn’t hitting the grad transfer market hard looking for a shooter outside of the guy from Evansville, who’s not to say that he feels comfortable with the guys we have coming in, being able to shoot consistently from deep?  Freshmen are always a big unknown, but from what I’ve seen, the guys we have coming in (RP, JH and DA) can shoot the ball.  

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3 hours ago, Danomatic said:

Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but thought this might brighten someone’s day if needed. 😉

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If this is at all true, I wouldn't be shocked to see at least one pull the trigger soon (after Romeo's decision, either good or bad). And I am going to say that Brooks is in this group as well. 

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Think you both have points. Typically I would agree with you, numbers are numbers. But I also think if you analyze them, you can find outliers sometimes. If I shoot 10-10 one game from three, but miss the other 15 I shoot on the year, I wouldn’t be confident in saying I’m a 40% shooter from 3. More like I had one great game but sucked from distance the rest of the year. Not true consistency or someone you could rely on. 

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51 minutes ago, StLHoosier said:

If CAM isn’t hitting the grad transfer market hard looking for a shooter outside of the guy from Evansville, who’s not to say that he feels comfortable with the guys we have coming in, being able to shoot consistently from deep?  Freshmen are always a big unknown, but from what I’ve seen, the guys we have coming in (RP, JH and DA) can shoot the ball.  

Tough to count on four star freshmen to hit the three consistently right off the bat.  I would be pretty shocked if any of those three shot much above 35% for the season (and kind of doubt Anderson will see the floor much at all).

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2 hours ago, cybergates said:

Wow. Can you imagine getting all 3 of those guys? IU would be back up with the other blue bloods recruiting-wise with results-wise surely to follow.

Can't really disagree or wish for something different, but in the back of my mind I'm thinking that real Hoosier basketball needs most of the players invested in the system. Meaning, upperclassmen. If we want to watch high quality defense and offense, then that requires more than a few months with the program. Still wouldn't complain if they all came though!

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13 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said:

The dream scenario, as others have said, would be if any of these big time 2019 guys hopped on that last scholly for 2018.  That’s a game changer.  Nobody has heard anything about that, but I doubt we had an inkling of that with Race this time last year.  

Just read your post after I posted, weird.....

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17 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said:

Take this with a grain of salt, but I’ve been told Hurt is going to reclassify to 2018.  Not a usual source and it could very well be a bunch of smoke.  Just wanted to let the board know what I was told.  We shall see....

if it's true that "IU has the inside track" on Hurt and he's reclassifying (and obviously the potential addition of Romeo), what an insane first recruiting class that would be for this coaching staff. 

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28 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said:

Take this with a grain of salt, but I’ve been told Hurt is going to reclassify to 2018.  Not a usual source and it could very well be a bunch of smoke.  Just wanted to let the board know what I was told.  We shall see....

Sounds too good to be true but I have been wondering why Archie hasn't signed a grad transfer yet when we have 2 scholarships to burn for next season.  He seems like a man that always has a plan so I bet he has something up his sleeve.

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36 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said:

Take this with a grain of salt, but I’ve been told Hurt is going to reclassify to 2018.  Not a usual source and it could very well be a bunch of smoke.  Just wanted to let the board know what I was told.  We shall see....

Very interesting! Anyone have the number of scholarships which Duke, UNC, UK, and any other serious contenders for Mathew Hurt have for 2018 class?

IU - 2 (will become 1 on Monday)

KU - 1

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