tdhoosier Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22860872/big-east-replace-1-done-2-none ....I guess it's a start. But unless the NBA agrees a 'two or none' rule then I don't see how the NCAA could enforce that on their own and legally. If you watch the clip Stephen A. says that adults have contracts, thus, college kids can sign 2 year contracts. This is true, but in exchange for the 'real-life' contracts you get paid money. If you break said contract you don't get paid that money. Athlete's would be promised a scholarship in exchange for their contract, but if they break that contract they're only losing that scholarship? If the NBA doesn't agree to this rule, those players would be able to walk right into the NBA. In the end what has changed? And before you say it, there is no way that a university will be able to impose greater penalties than just a loss of scholarship on a player who would break their contract. I just don't see how that case would be held up in court, not to mention it'd be horrible PR for any school that'd choose to take it that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Can't get behind a plan that forces kids to stay in school. Should Trae Young be forced to return to Oklahoma next year? The hockey model makes sense to me. https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl-model-perhaps-offers-best-reform-solution-wake-ncaa-hoops-scandal-150355518.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Nothing will change unless the NBA changes their rules because the NCAA can't make kids stay in school. I wish they would go to the MLB rule and let the kids go to the NBA or if they go to college they have to stay 3 years before entering the draft. Also I like the idea and it was one of my solutions as well is to get the shoe companies out of the summer basketball world and have the NCAA take that over. also if they can get rid of individual schools getting shoe contracts and just have one company do all of the NCAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosiertildeath Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 For pet'e sake !!That in NO SOLUTION !! The only decent and proper decision is to STOP TELLING HIGH SCHOOL GRADS THEY CAN'T DECIDE ON THEIR OWN WHETHER TO GO TO COLLEGE OR NOT !! The United States of America is SUPPOSED to be a DEMOCRACY !! That crap of telling a high school grad he HAS TO GO TO COLLEGE IS A FLIPPING DICTATORSHIP ! Let us get back to letting FREEDOM OF CHOICE RING SUPREME and STOP all of this DICTATORSHIP CRAP !!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, hoosiertildeath said: For pet'e sake !!That in NO SOLUTION !! The only decent and proper decision is to STOP TELLING HIGH SCHOOL GRADS THEY CAN'T DECIDE ON THEIR OWN WHETHER TO GO TO COLLEGE OR NOT !! The United States of America is SUPPOSED to be a DEMOCRACY !! That crap of telling a high school grad he HAS TO GO TO COLLEGE IS A FLIPPING DICTATORSHIP ! Let us get back to letting FREEDOM OF CHOICE RING SUPREME and STOP all of this DICTATORSHIP CRAP !!!!!!!!!!! So if a kid is good in science in high school should they be able to just become a doctor with out going to college and medical school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: So if a kid is good in science in high school should they be able to just become a doctor with out going to college and medical school. Holy false equivalency, Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, IU Scott said: So if a kid is good in science in high school should they be able to just become a doctor with out going to college and medical school. This has got to be the most ridiculous thing you’ve ever said on this board, hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, FW_Hoosier said: This has got to be the most ridiculous thing you’ve ever said on this board, hahahaha Just saying every profession has a requirement to gain employment so why should it be any different for professional sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 36 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Holy false equivalency, Batman. Yeah, but it was still funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Just saying every profession has a requirement to gain employment so why should it be any different for professional sports. No, not every profession. I can see your point with Doctor because they hold our life/health in their hands and it needs to be regulated to a certain degree. And basketball players don't need a high level education to play in the Pros. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BASKETBALL.....haha. By that logic, If somebody is a great at writing then they need a college education to become an author???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: No, not every profession. I can see your point with Doctor because they hold our life/health in their hands and it needs to be regulated to a certain degree. And basketball players don't need a high level education to play in the Pros. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BASKETBALL.....haha. By that logic, If somebody is a great at writing then they need a college education to become an author???? If writers want a good job they need to go to college. You think all the great writers who wrote for newspapers and magazines did not have to go to college to get those jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, IU Scott said: If writers want a good job they need to go to college. You think all the great writers who wrote for newspapers and magazines did not have to go to college to get those jobs. https://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2013/11/10-famous-authors-who-never-graduated-from-college.html Well, these folks have done pretty well for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, IU Scott said: If writers want a good job they need to go to college. You think all the great writers who wrote for newspapers and magazines did not have to go to college to get those jobs. Sure, most writers do have to go to college in order to find a job. But on occasion an extremely talented author will come along and not need college to become successful. I'm thinking of authors like Mark Twain and Maya Angelou, both who did not go to college. it's kinda like when a very talented basketball player comes along who does not need college to become successful. EDIT. And remind me again what curriculum better prepares a basketball player to have a profession in basketball? Was it one of those topics courses IU offers? Maybe Gender Religion and History? Elvis and the Post War Era? Earthquakes and Volcanos? *proud to say I took all those topics courses and the only thing they prepared me for was a better understanding of 'Madmen' and that sometimes it's not worth a dull subject matter to avoid a Friday morning class. THANKS COLLEGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: Sure, most writers do have to go to college in order to find a job. But on occasion an extremely talented author will come along and not need college to become successful. I'm thinking of authors like Mark Twain and Maya Angelou, both who did not go to college. it's kinda like when a very talented basketball player comes along who does not need college to become successful. EDIT. And remind me again what curriculum better prepares a basketball player to have a profession in basketball? Was it one of those topics courses IU offers? Maybe Gender Religion and History? Elvis and the Post War Era? Earthquakes and Volcanos? *proud to say I took all those topics courses and the only thing they prepared me for was a better understanding of 'Madmen' and that sometimes it's not worth a dull subject matter to avoid a Friday morning class. THANKS COLLEGE! It has nothing to do with how htye play on the court but the NBA wants to be able to evaluate the players against higher competition so they don't have so many bust. also most players who are 18 years old is not mature enough off the court to handle the NBA life style so it does then some good living on their own on a college campus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronHoosier Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 One potential annoyance I could see with this is the top HS kids wanting to get NBA feedback by entering the draft process without an agent. It could become much harder trying to recruit the 5-Star talents and may be left waiting until June to get the top kids to decide whether they are going pro or going to college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosiertildeath Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 People I was talking about basketball players ! You can be the DUMBEST jackass on the planet and still play pro ball if you ARE 7'0" TALL OR TALL ER AND PUT THAT DAMN BASKETBALL IN THE THAT OLD PEACH BASKET ,VBG !! Of course you would not want any dumbass off the street to be your Doctor ! Of Course , you should want a Doctor who has been trained by skilled Doctors !1 However , playing basketbal is not Brain Surgery , for pete's sake !! Some of you are trying to compare Oranges to Apples!1 An Orange will always be an Orange , ( unless it becomes Orange Juice , vbg ! However , you can not make a dumbass smart by making him go to college !! That is my POINT !! Some basketball players are just dumb and no silly rule making him go to college for one or two years and never go to class [ or seldom go to any classes } or take courses on making paper airplanes ,etc , VBG !! P.S. There are still some players currently playing in the NBA who went straight out of high school into the NBA and they have done okay !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Not a single basketball in the world is forced to go to college. Is the best option still go to go college if you're a one and done? Sure, it's the best option, but you are not forced to go. Romeo Langford could go to the G-League next season if he wanted to. He could go to any host of overseas leagues and probably make 7 figures. He does not have to go to college. He just can't go to the NBA. This post is not a defense of the one and done rule, or to try and claim the system doesn't need fixing, just clearing up the idea that any of these guys are forced to go to college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Said it before and I'll say it again...the NCAA has the power to fix the one and done. You make freshman ineligible to play. Pretty simple. And if they did I guarantee you the NBA would change their rule. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Charles Barkley: Kids should stay in college for two years - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AXnqhuRF6QcuxCMZDU-8t3g Well, if a guy as astute as Charles can figure it out, why can't the NCAA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 I personally like the baseball process or go pro or stay for 3 (get a degree pretty much in today's society). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 6 hours ago, Jerry Lundergaard said: Charles Barkley: Kids should stay in college for two years - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AXnqhuRF6QcuxCMZDU-8t3g Well, if a guy as astute as Charles can figure it out, why can't the NCAA? You mean the NBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosiertildeath Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I hate to sound like a SMARTASS myself , however, Barles Charkley is the last person I would go to to get an INTELLIGENT opinion about college basketball !1 Most of his picks are completely WRONG ,WRONG , WRONG !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosiertildeath Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I still say any rule that tells a kid he has to play one year {or two -or 3} of College basketball before he can apply for work as a player in the NBA when that kid does not want to go to College in the first damn place is a dictatorship and not a Democratic process !! I believe that silly rule is why we so so much cheating that is now going on in College Hoops !! There has always been a little bit of cheating , but I feel it has MUSHROOMED today because of that silly rule that tells kids that they CAN'T GO STRAIGHT TO THE NBA right out of high school ! I agree there are other options than the NBA !! But , the rule doesn't say those kids can't use those other options !! It only prevents kids from going straight to the NBA out of high !! And. I will never approve or agree with a [censured] system that tells a kid that he can not apply for a playing position in the NBA right out of HIGH SCHOOL !! It makes no sense to me whatsoever to have such a rule and it never will !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Does anybody have any data about kids coming out of high school and playing in foreign leagues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, hoosiertildeath said: I still say any rule that tells a kid he has to play one year {or two -or 3} of College basketball before he can apply for work as a player in the NBA when that kid does not want to go to College in the first damn place is a dictatorship and not a Democratic process !! I believe that silly rule is why we so so much cheating that is now going on in College Hoops !! There has always been a little bit of cheating , but I feel it has MUSHROOMED today because of that silly rule that tells kids that they CAN'T GO STRAIGHT TO THE NBA right out of high school ! I agree there are other options than the NBA !! But , the rule doesn't say those kids can't use those other options !! It only prevents kids from going straight to the NBA out of high !! And. I will never approve or agree with a [censured] system that tells a kid that he can not apply for a playing position in the NBA right out of HIGH SCHOOL !! It makes no sense to me whatsoever to have such a rule and it never will !! There is no rule forcing anyone high school basketball to go to college before entering the NBA. At this point college is the best option, but Romeo Langford could go play in the G-League next season if he wanted to. He could go to a league overseas. He does not HAVE to go to college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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