IU Scott Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 54 minutes ago, mjeze106 said: I'm surprised no one has said Shaq. Thoughts? He was a dominate individual but his team never got past the 2nd round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Muckraker said: Ivan Renko.... sorry,Icouldnt resist. Seriously, though, Wilt and Bill Russell also come to mind. You saw them play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, bluegrassIU said: Allan Houston Did he ever play in a NCAA tournament game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU4Ever Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Patrick Ewing. In the 1985 NCAA championship game against St. John's, which featured Chris Mullin and Mark Jackson, he took Mullin completely out of the game in the first 5 minutes with thunderous blocked shots. He was called for a couple of goal tends but his message got delivered and Mullin only ended up with 8 pts. For his 4-year career at Georgetown he nearly averaged a double-double with 15.3 ppg and 9.2 reb./game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, rico said: Did he ever play in a NCAA tournament game? Bluegrass has a personal connection to Alan Houston. Houston score something like 74 points when Bluegrass was guarding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyHoosier Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Danny Manning was something else his senior year. Averaged almost 25 and 9 per game and took put that team on his back all the way to a championship. The dude was as smooth as he was unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 46 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Bluegrass has a personal connection to Alan Houston. Houston score something like 74 points when Bluegrass was guarding him. All the guys scored on Bluegrass in Ky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 Jabbar (Alcindor) or Walton. There really wasn't much competition at their level at that point in time, except for Elvin Hayes. They both played in a structured offense. I don't know what their win/loss numbers are for their years, but they're stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 57 minutes ago, JerseyHoosier said: Danny Manning was something else his senior year. Averaged almost 25 and 9 per game and took put that team on his back all the way to a championship. The dude was as smooth as he was unstoppable. He was something else for a career. He carried that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mac said: Jabbar (Alcindor) or Walton. There really wasn't much competition at their level at that point in time, except for Elvin Hayes. They both played in a structured offense. I don't know what their win/loss numbers are for their years, but they're stellar. Okay, I looked it up: Jabbar 88-2, three national championships. Walton 86-4, two national championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'm just going to go with guys I saw play in college, off the top of my head. Manning, Laettner, Shaq, Oden (imagine if he had been healthy that year?), I saw Ewing but don't really remember it. I'm trying to think of someone that hasn't been mentioned. Carmelo was pretty dominant his one year. Maybe Wade for a few weeks, he absolutely carried Marquette to that Final Four. It's tough because most of the dominant players from 96-04 didn't play in college, and even since then they only played one year in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 College : Lew Alcinder Pros : Bill Russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 One guy that come in my conversation with my buddy was a lot like Larry Bird......no TV exposure until it came tournament time. The guy's name? Danny Ainge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 5 hours ago, IU4Ever said: Patrick Ewing. In the 1985 NCAA championship game against St. John's, which featured Chris Mullin and Mark Jackson, he took Mullin completely out of the game in the first 5 minutes with thunderous blocked shots. He was called for a couple of goal tends but his message got delivered and Mullin only ended up with 8 pts. For his 4-year career at Georgetown he nearly averaged a double-double with 15.3 ppg and 9.2 reb./game. The St. Johns game was not the championship game because Villanova beat Georgetown in the 85 final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 5 hours ago, BGleas said: I'm just going to go with guys I saw play in college, off the top of my head. Manning, Laettner, Shaq, Oden (imagine if he had been healthy that year?), I saw Ewing but don't really remember it. I'm trying to think of someone that hasn't been mentioned. Carmelo was pretty dominant his one year. Maybe Wade for a few weeks, he absolutely carried Marquette to that Final Four. It's tough because most of the dominant players from 96-04 didn't play in college, and even since then they only played one year in most cases. Imagine what KD or Lebron would have done with a 3-4 year college career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU4Ever Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 8 hours ago, IU Scott said: The St. Johns game was not the championship game because Villanova beat Georgetown in the 85 final. You are correct, I stand corrected on the specific game. TYVM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 11 hours ago, BGleas said: I'm just going to go with guys I saw play in college, off the top of my head. Manning, Laettner, Shaq, Oden (imagine if he had been healthy that year?), I saw Ewing but don't really remember it. I'm trying to think of someone that hasn't been mentioned. Carmelo was pretty dominant his one year. Maybe Wade for a few weeks, he absolutely carried Marquette to that Final Four. It's tough because most of the dominant players from 96-04 didn't play in college, and even since then they only played one year in most cases. Ewing was dominating. And he played 4 years and was dominating in all 4. To me, that puts him ahead of guys like Shaq, Oden, and Carmelo. Two guys I am surprised that haven't been mentioned so far are Tim Duncan and Marcus Camby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I was a kid but I'll echo Patrick Ewing. If not for Jordan shot/Brown pass, Nova shooting 78% in title game...he would have had 3 titles in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, rico said: Ewing was dominating. And he played 4 years and was dominating in all 4. To me, that puts him ahead of guys like Shaq, Oden, and Carmelo. Two guys I am surprised that haven't been mentioned so far are Tim Duncan and Marcus Camby. Just my opinion, but I'm not sure this discussion is one where staying 4 years really matters. Dominating is dominating whether it was done over 4 years or just one. Oden was a beast and that was with basically playing with one hand. Shaq was an absolutely beast and he played 3 years so just one less than Ewing. Agree on Duncan, for some reason his college career largely gets forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, BGleas said: Just my opinion, but I'm not sure this discussion is one where staying 4 years really matters. Dominating is dominating whether it was done over 4 years or just one. Oden was a beast and that was with basically playing with one hand. Shaq was an absolutely beast and he played 3 years so just one less than Ewing. Agree on Duncan, for some reason his college career largely gets forgotten. I'll counter with the point that Shaq did not dominate to such a level that he carried his team deep into the tournament. Larry Bird did. Danny Manning did. Ralph Sampson and Patrick Ewing did as well. Heck, even Marcus Camby was able to get UMASS to a Final Four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 20 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: For me, I'd say Oden. The dude was unstoppable and I'm sure playing against him in 8th grade and then following his career after that played into my decision. A little before my time but in the 90's, I think Big Dog is a solid choice. Last guy to average 30 and 10 in a season. I watched Big Dog and he was very dominate. His college game was impressive. I have a hard time nominating a prop 48 kid though. He was apparently pretty dumb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, BGleas said: Just my opinion, but I'm not sure this discussion is one where staying 4 years really matters. Dominating is dominating whether it was done over 4 years or just one. Oden was a beast and that was with basically playing with one hand. Shaq was an absolutely beast and he played 3 years so just one less than Ewing. Agree on Duncan, for some reason his college career largely gets forgotten. IMHO, a 4 year dominance trumps 1 or 2 years. And to be honest I would take Ewing's freshman year over Oden's everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. And what did Shaq ever do at the collegiate level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 In high school for me it has to be Damon. Although Shawn kemp was pretty dominating. In college without question for me has Lew Alcindor. Not live but tons of video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 What about Steph Curry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, rico said: IMHO, a 4 year dominance trumps 1 or 2 years. And to be honest I would take Ewing's freshman year over Oden's everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. And what did Shaq ever do at the collegiate level? I don't know, he only averaged 21.6 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 4.6 bpg and shot 61% from the field over 3 years, and if you take just his last two years he averaged 25.8 ppg, 14.3 rpg and 5.1 bpg. Drink that in, over a 2-year period he averaged 26, 14 and 5. Edit: I would take Ewing's freshmen year over Oden's too, but that doesn't mean Oden didn't dominate as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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