btownqb Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 58 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I think the Pacers can win it after seeing the game yesterday. I'm not sure who the Cavs can put on Oladipo to slow him down. How gimmicky can they get on defense? They started the game with LBJ on Collison and Hill on Oladipo and that didn't work. They tried to double Vic and that mostly didn't work. They won't shoot so poorly every game, but i think the Pacers are a tough matchup for Cleveland (and everyone in the East). In reality.. LBJ can guard VO... but that means you're asking LBJ to do WAY, WAY too much. And VO would still get "his". BUT... that means Collison/Turner vs. GH/Love in the pick and roll, I'll take that match up... it also means Hood guards Bog and I like that match up. But again, the most important part would be how much LBJ could wear down having to guard VO for 40 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Had to dig for this one.......pure comedy gold when it comes to LBJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, btownqb said: In reality.. LBJ can guard VO... but that means you're asking LBJ to do WAY, WAY too much. And VO would still get "his". BUT... that means Collison/Turner vs. GH/Love in the pick and roll, I'll take that match up... it also means Hood guards Bog and I like that match up. But again, the most important part would be how much LBJ could wear down having to guard VO for 40 mins. Considering LBJ played all 82 games and the most minutes of his career and he played over 40 in a game 1 loss. I love it. the cards are stacked well for a pacers series win the only fear are the refs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, btownqb said: In reality.. LBJ can guard VO... but that means you're asking LBJ to do WAY, WAY too much. And VO would still get "his". BUT... that means Collison/Turner vs. GH/Love in the pick and roll, I'll take that match up... it also means Hood guards Bog and I like that match up. But again, the most important part would be how much LBJ could wear down having to guard VO for 40 mins. LBJ can guard anyone, but as you say he will get worn down chasing VO who is, in reality, faster and constantly moving. You also are opening the door to foul trouble with him guarding a quicker player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: LBJ can guard anyone, but as you say he will get worn down chasing VO who is, in reality, faster and constantly moving. You also are opening the door to foul trouble with him guarding a quicker player. Considering he has only ever fouled out of 1 game I think, the refs will not allow him to get into too much foul trouble. i do agree with the assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 18 point win on the road is extremely impressive, I'm hopeful, but won't believe we will win the series until I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 42 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Considering he has only ever fouled out of 1 game I think, the refs will not allow him to get into too much foul trouble. i do agree with the assessment. I agree.. BUT even if he got into ANY sort of foul trouble at any point it would be huge. With the officiating though, I fully expect Victor to get two quick ones in game 2.. or have 4 by mid 3rd q. Sabonis 3rd foul yesterday was insanely bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, btownqb said: I agree.. BUT even if he got into ANY sort of foul trouble at any point it would be huge. With the officiating though, I fully expect Victor to get two quick ones in game 2.. or have 4 by mid 3rd q. Sabonis 3rd foul yesterday was insanely bad. u are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 It will be very, very difficult for the Pacers to win Game 2. I would guess the shooting will balance out a bit, as the Cavs won't shoot that poorly at home again. Also as had been mentioned, the Cavs will get a lot of favorable calls early that will put the Pacers in a bind, and finally the Cavs backs are against the walls while the Pacers are probably feeling pretty good about themselves. The Cavs are going to have a far greater sense of urgency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danomatic Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 I think the Pacers can legitimately wear down the aging Cavs. As long as they continue to attack the basket and not settle for outside jumpers. I really like this Pacers team and believe that they can do some damage in the playoffs, but they’ll have to be the aggressors each and every game. @btownqb - I absolutely agree with you about the officiating. That will be a battle in and of itself the rest of the way. When Turner got hammered and didn’t get the call on one end, then LeBron plows into him and got the call on the other end... that pretty much solidified that the officiating was going to be one sided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 After the trades at the deadline it made the Cavs one of the younger teams in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Until we win the series I'll be guarded with my optimism. With that said...I hope most realize that win yesterday along with 48 wins this season is a huge step forward for this franchise. I'm not saying house money but it's close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danomatic Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 31 minutes ago, IU Scott said: After the trades at the deadline it made the Cavs one of the younger teams in the league No, it just didn’t make them the oldest. They’re still the 2nd oldest, right behind the Rockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Outside of LeBron, the Pacers are a much better team. But as Mark Boyle likes to say, “they have LeBron, and you don’t.” He can take over a game and win it by himself. It’s hard to bet against that. Complaining about the refs is easy but wrong. Pacers took more free throws and the Cavs were called for more fouls in game 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Outside of LeBron, the Pacers are a much better team. But as Mark Boyle likes to say, “they have LeBron, and you don’t.” He can take over a game and win it by himself. It’s hard to bet against that. Complaining about the refs is easy but wrong. Pacers took more free throws and the Cavs were called for more fouls in game 1. That has nothing to do with the missed calls. Bookers illegal screen and Sabonis 3rd foul were terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 47 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Until we win the series I'll be guarded with my optimism. With that said...I hope most realize that win yesterday along with 48 wins this season is a huge step forward for this franchise. I'm not saying house money but it's close. We're 48-21 when Oladipo and Sabonis both play. Not sure why analysts never mention that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, btownqb said: That has nothing to do with the missed calls. Bookers illegal screen and Sabonis 3rd foul were terrible. Missed calls happen. There is no conspiracy against the Pacers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 minute ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Missed calls happen. There is no conspiracy against the Pacers. Completely agree there's no conspiracy against the Pacers.. LBJ and his team simply gets calls. It is what it is. Those two yesterday are calls that should never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, btownqb said: Completely agree there's no conspiracy against the Pacers.. LBJ and his team simply gets calls. It is what it is. Those two yesterday are calls that should never happen. I see it just as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, btownqb said: Completely agree there's no conspiracy against the Pacers.. LBJ and his team simply gets calls. It is what it is. Those two yesterday are calls that should never happen. But I thought refs have no effect on the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: But I thought refs have no effect on the game? Refs can impact the game and force a team to play differently. Couple cheap fouls on key player etc.. I would not blame a loss on refs but they can influence many factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 minute ago, FW_Hoosier said: But I thought refs have no effect on the game? Meh.. that's usually a college and HS level thing for me. But I'm not going to get into that argument again, least not in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danomatic Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 The foul on Booker was terrible. I don’t think any of the three floor officials were watching when contact was made, it was an overreaction. When LeBron grabbed his face after Lance went after the ball, I couldn’t stop laughing. The fact that it took them four minutes to make sure that it was a common foul was laughable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: But I thought refs have no effect on the game? They absolutely do. I was watching a coed youth league game with kindergarten and first graders this weekend. The refs let travelling violation, after travelling violation, after double dribble, after illegal screen go uncalled. I let the refs have it big time. And, what happens, I"m the one that gets escorted from the gym. It should have been the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, btownqb said: Meh.. that's usually a college and HS level thing for me. But I'm not going to get into that argument again, least not in this thread. Usually a good idea to avoid making ridiculous arguments like that, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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