dwtaylor1055 Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Indykev said: 2 former NBA stars and Sam Mitchell, former NBA coach sitting in your living room telling a kid we can get you to the NBA. Whats not to like. It will take a couple of years for them to figure out he cant coach. This šš». Right now its ācoolā to attend Memphis due to 2 former NBA stars so lots of kids think they will prepare them the best for the next step. Thatās to be determined whether they can prepare the kids to the best of their ability for the next level.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: This šš». Right now its ācoolā to attend Memphis due to 2 former NBA stars so lots of kids think they will prepare them the best for the next step. Thatās to be determined whether they can prepare the kids to the best of their ability for the next level.Ā Unfortunately those same things are left to be determined at IU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 57 minutes ago, Cutter said: Unfortunately those same things are left to be determined at IU While true, we donāt have two NBA all star coaches at IU so IU canāt sell to players that you are being coached and taught by former NBA all stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: While true, we donāt have two NBA all star coaches at IU so IU canāt sell to players that you are being coached and taught by former NBA all stars Yes I agree completely! We lost out on 2 recruits going head to head with them beforeĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Indykev said: 2 former NBA stars and Sam Mitchell, former NBA coach sitting in your living room telling a kid we can get you to the NBA. Whats not to like. It will take a couple of years for them to figure out he cant coach. And I can point to Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullins, Danny Manning, Avery Johnson, Mark Price, Reggie Theus, and others who not only failed or are failing at collegiate level but probably put what? 1-2 guys in the league max? No clue on my last statement. I don't recall any of these guys doing a thing. Point is this. Put me in a room with a kids family who says Penny and his staff can get me to the pros and it would take about 5 seconds to eviscerate that narrative.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: And I can point to Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullins, Danny Manning, Avery Johnson, Mark Price, Reggie Theus, and others who not only failed or are failing at collegiate level but probably put what? 1-2 guys in the league max? No clue on my last statement. I don't recall any of these guys doing a thing. Point is this. Put me in a room with a kids family who says Penny and his staff can get me to the pros and it would take about 5 seconds to eviscerate that narrative.Ā Close. Quick count, 3 NBA and 3 drafted G League players out of that group. Most significant: Collin Sexton (Johnson). Only one I'd remove from that group is Ewing. He's only 2 years in and while he hasn't set the world on fire, hasn't been terrible so far. Jury is still out. What's curious is that none of those coaches were able to put together a recruiting class anywhere close to what Penny has done at Memphis. #notsayin-butjustsayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 56 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Close. Quick count, 3 NBA and 3 drafted G League players out of that group. Most significant: Collin Sexton (Johnson). Only one I'd remove from that group is Ewing. He's only 2 years in and while he hasn't set the world on fire, hasn't been terrible so far. Jury is still out. What's curious is that none of those coaches were able to put together a recruiting class anywhere close to what Penny has done at Memphis. #notsayin-butjustsayin Thanks for the clarification on the 3. I was just typing and going off memory. 6 plus NBA great players...not good but great ones with limited to no success. Our only problem is Archie hasn't had enough time to point to the success but given his E8 team at Dayton....that alone tells me he could coach circles around the guys I mentioned.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 2 hours ago, dwtaylor1055 said: While true, we donāt have two NBA all star coaches at IU so IU canāt sell to players that you are being coached and taught by former NBA all stars We used to have an NBA guy on the staff who was also an IU alum.Ā A key staff member that did more behind the scenes than anyone will ever hear about. A guy that mostĀ players respected more than they did theĀ head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Inequality said: We used to have an NBA guy on the staff who was also an IU alum.Ā A key staff member that did more behind the scenes than anyone will ever hear about. A guy that mostĀ players respected more than they did theĀ head coach. Is he also a high volume scorer from the early 90ās? š¤Ŗ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, Coach Robby said: Is he also a high volume scorer from the early 90ās? š¤Ŗ Ha! Your good! Your reeeal good!Ā But yeah, though his presence was subtle, his departure from what I know, would later prove to be the beginning of the end for the guy that ran him off. I will save more for another thread down the road. While relevant to the current swing of this thread, I also feel like Iām contributing to the derailment which ironically, annoys me. Please excuse me while I put myself in timeout for 15 minutes. Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68Hoosier Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Inequality said: Ha! Your good! Your reeeal good!Ā But yeah, though his presence was subtle, his departure from what I know, would later prove to be the beginning of the end for the guy that ran him off. I will save more for another thread down the road. While relevant to the current swing of this thread, I also feel like Iām contributing to the derailment which ironically, annoys me. Please excuse me while I put myself in timeout for 15 minutes. Ā Let's bring him back!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 19 hours ago, 68Hoosier said: Let's bring him back!!!! Problem is, there's another well respected former IU player that's in his former position currently, and by all accounts, is doing a fine job. Have to either wait for an assistant to depart or create some other position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Zlinedavid said: Problem is, there's another well respected former IU player that's in his former position currently, and by all accounts, is doing a fine job. Have to either wait for an assistant to depart or create some other position. Well we are IU and we donāt want basketball to become too big so we surely wouldnāt want to create a position for a great former alum whoās over qualified for most positions weād create. š¤¦š»āāļø Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, BADGERVOL said: Well we are IU and we donāt want basketball to become too big so we surely wouldnāt want to create a position for a great former alum whoās over qualified for most positions weād create. š¤¦š»āāļø I get the dig at the administration, but here's the bottom line: "Bring him back!" "OK, which assistant do you want to fire?" He's been a staffer, he's been a mid-major D1 assistant, and is now a G League assistant. Would he make the move to major D1 assistant? Possibly. Would he come back to IU for what would be a demotion in rank? Would you? And if he's not an actual assistant, he's not going to be able to be in those recruits' living rooms to say how he knows the NBA and how to get them there. (Which is what prompted this chain of thought). And it's more meaningful to have a guy there saying it vs the head coach saying "We have a guy on staff that...". So the next time there's an assistants job opening, yep, he'd be a great candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Zlinedavid said: I get the dig at the administration, but here's the bottom line: "Bring him back!" "OK, which assistant do you want to fire?" He's been a staffer, he's been a mid-major D1 assistant, and is now a G League assistant. Would he make the move to major D1 assistant? Possibly. Would he come back to IU for what would be a demotion in rank? Would you? And if he's not an actual assistant, he's not going to be able to be in those recruits' living rooms to say how he knows the NBA and how to get them there. (Which is what prompted this chain of thought). And it's more meaningful to have a guy there saying it vs the head coach saying "We have a guy on staff that...". So the next time there's an assistants job opening, yep, he'd be a great candidate. My dig isnāt at all that anyone should be forced out and heck idc if heās the best man for the job if Archie doesnāt want him donāt bring him on. Iām just saying it appears the higher ups (above AD even) sure havenāt earned the rep of being on board with doing everything we can to compete at the highest level in college basketball while staying in the rules. I realize most of my feeling about that is constant people connected saying thatās the case. But the president has yet to call me and tell me thatās his view of menās basketball. š¤Ŗ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 The final 247Sports player rankings for the 2019 class have been released. Trendon jumped 21 spots to #19 and up to a 5-star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY hoosier Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 When is Watford announcingĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Donāt get the feeling we were ever seriously in the running on this one. More of a sentimental also ran.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Is it time for this thread to get plunged or flushed or whatever that was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderMonkey Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 This will be the second thread over 100 pages that we didn't get the commit.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Great job getting thread to 100 pages. Right there with Moses and Brooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, Indykev said: Great job getting thread to 100 pages. Right there with Moses and Brooks. Who is Brooks!? Keep seeing that name....Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoHoosier Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, kyhoosier29 said: Who is Brooks!? Keep seeing that name....Ā Delray Brooks, although he didn't get a 100 page thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 Brooks Hadley...but unfortunately he became institutionalized and couldnāt make it on the outside... š¢ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, BADGERVOL said: Brooks Hadley...but unfortunately he became institutionalized and couldnāt make it on the outside... š¢ Poor Brooks hanged himself.... that setting was in Kentucky right?Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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