cybergates Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 12 hours ago, dgambill said: I would say the modern blubloods (last 25 years) would be Duke, UNC, Kansas, UK, and Michigan St. Those are the power players in college basketball (power 5 if you will). They also have the premier coaches in college basketball. It doesn’t offend me...we will soon be back to where we belong but us and UCLA while multi-national champions have lost our place at that tip top when it comes to conversation on the national scene. The right scenerio could easily put us right back there but it has to happen first. Archie will rectify it for us. I agree with you that those teams are the basketball powers or modern bluebloods as you call it (I would add UConn and probably Villanova and maybe Florida to the mix) over the past 25 years, but when I think of blueblood it is about history more than recent success. IU, UCLA, Kansas, fUK (unfortunately) are the true bluebloods in my book. That doesn't change regardless of lack of current or future success.Duke and UNC were the next additions to the list. UConn and Villanova are knocking on the door and I wouldn't argue against their inclusion. I guess it really comes down to definition of blue blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, cybergates said: I agree with you that those teams are the basketball powers or modern bluebloods as you call it (I would add UConn and probably Villanova and maybe Florida to the mix) over the past 25 years, but when I think of blueblood it is about history more than recent success. IU, UCLA, Kansas, fUK (unfortunately) are the true bluebloods in my book. That doesn't change regardless of lack of current or future success.Duke and UNC were the next additions to the list. UConn and Villanova are knocking on the door and I wouldn't argue against their inclusion. I guess it really comes down to definition of blue blood. Oh yeah..no doubt blueblood is a term with large amount of interpretation. I agree with your accessment probably a list of the top 10 most successful basketball programs in NCAA history would have those programs. I think it just depends on your age....people around 40 or over would probably say IU, UCLA, UK, Kansas, UNC, DUKE...anyone younger would probably drop IU and UCLA and probably add Michigan St. and maybe UConn. Yeah...we could go on and on with this....fact is...it's hard to get too angry about being left off the list when basically none of these kids being talked about were even born the last time we were in a final 4 and perhaps many of their parents were too young to have even watched us win our last national championship or at least even care about the sport at that time. Let's be honest, we are basically Nebraska football...except it's been even longer. At some point you are no longer a blueblood if too much time passes. I mean you would probably consider Army and Penn football bluebloods going back 70-80 years ago. Or Arkansas 50-60...so with us if we get to the point where we haven't won a championship in 30 years we are getting dangerously close to losing our status with most people I'm afraid. We have a proud tradition...and I think we are close to getting it back...but I'm not going to hold it against someone if they aren't old enough to know our history....in this case though I would say this guy probably misspoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 47 minutes ago, dgambill said: Oh yeah..no doubt blueblood is a term with large amount of interpretation. I agree with your accessment probably a list of the top 10 most successful basketball programs in NCAA history would have those programs. I think it just depends on your age....people around 40 or over would probably say IU, UCLA, UK, Kansas, UNC, DUKE...anyone younger would probably drop IU and UCLA and probably add Michigan St. and maybe UConn. Yeah...we could go on and on with this....fact is...it's hard to get too angry about being left off the list when basically none of these kids being talked about were even born the last time we were in a final 4 and perhaps many of their parents were too young to have even watched us win our last national championship or at least even care about the sport at that time. Let's be honest, we are basically Nebraska football...except it's been even longer. At some point you are no longer a blueblood if too much time passes. I mean you would probably consider Army and Penn football bluebloods going back 70-80 years ago. Or Arkansas 50-60...so with us if we get to the point where we haven't won a championship in 30 years we are getting dangerously close to losing our status with most people I'm afraid. We have a proud tradition...and I think we are close to getting it back...but I'm not going to hold it against someone if they aren't old enough to know our history....in this case though I would say this guy probably misspoke. To me people mistake the difference between blue bloods and elite programs. To me blueblood is about a schools over all history. An elite program is how they are at the present time and over the last hand full of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, IU Scott said: To me people mistake the difference between blue bloods and elite programs. To me blueblood is about a schools over all history. An elite program is how they are at the present time and over the last hand full of years. Agreed...blueblood by definition is about noble birth or origin. That said I would think that a family's name over time could lose it's nobility. That is what could threaten to happen to IU. I don't think we are there yet by any measures...like I was saying about Nebraska football or Notre Dame...those are still bluebloods... but are far from their glory. I agree with you...elite programs are different and we are at risk of losing that stature and many more years of where we were headed it would likely have happened. Given a longer period say another 20 years of no final 4 or championship success...we could definitely lose status. Great distinction there Scott...agree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/adidas-summer-championship-zeke-nnaji-becomes-a-priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 Some video highlights- https://www.insidethehall.com/2018/07/23/video-class-of-2019-forward-zeke-nnaji-adidas-gauntlet-finale-highlights/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Hopefully you can read this: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/recruiting-central/2018/07/27/iu-basketball-jacobs-school-music-may-aid-zeke-nnaji-recruitment/849445002/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Have to think IU with the combination of basketball, music , coaches, Race is going to be in it to the wire for this one. Zeke # 2 !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 New CB pick for the Hoosiers Mark Miller is the Editor of "Wisconsin Basketball Yearbook" Previous picks were all on Wisconsin. Given that a Wisconsin writer is picking us, things could be shifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 Wow...him and TJD...twin towers...been a long time since we have had legitimate size on the team with multiple guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted August 3, 2018 Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, dgambill said: Wow...him and TJD...twin towers...been a long time since we have had legitimate size on the team with multiple guys. I'd love 2 big guys and a Guard in this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted August 3, 2018 Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, CapnRon said: I'd love 2 big guys and a Guard in this class. Truthfully I'd prefer two guards and a big....just because Romeo is one and done and then Green will be gone after the next. Since most freshmen don't contribute right away I'm looking a year ahead when they will be a sophomore to step in for Green. We seem to be deeper at the 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted August 3, 2018 Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, dgambill said: Truthfully I'd prefer two guards and a big....just because Romeo is one and done and then Green will be gone after the next. Since most freshmen don't contribute right away I'm looking a year ahead when they will be a sophomore to step in for Green. We seem to be deeper at the 4. Very good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted August 3, 2018 Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 I just don't feel confident in us getting more than 1 Guard this year so I'd be very happy with these 2 bigs, and picking up a Guard or 2 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Another IU CB pick from Alec Kinksy, EYBL Recruiting Analyst 60% Wisconsin 40% IU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 I know they don't play the same position, but this sure makes me feel like Keion Brooks Jr. is less likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdave Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 Anyone know when he is making his visit? If Wisco insiders think he's going to IU then I'm starting to worry that TJD will decide to go elsewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 ^^ That is genuinely an informed post. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 Looks like IU will be getting a visit from Nnaji in August. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/the-daily-hoosier-report-the-latest-in-iu-news-and-recruiting-notes-8-7/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Brian Snow and one other guy made CB picks for Kansas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 5 hours ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Brian Snow and one other guy made CB picks for Kansas. Do they have room to take both Nnaji and Hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/top-50-forward-zeke-nnaji-schedules-visit-tour Unofficial visits set: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 hours ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/top-50-forward-zeke-nnaji-schedules-visit-tour Unofficial visits set: That's quite the late August road trip. I like IUs chances of standing out in that group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Two more Kansas CB picks this morning. Seems to be the current trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Ryan Noel, Kansas guy on 247 said the response he got on Nnaji was "backup plan" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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