Cutter Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Billingsley99 said: I know all the reasons on why we are waiting to offer but if we let this kid out of our backyard I will be very disappointed and I dont care if we land the number 1 recruit in the country in his place. This is the type of player we NEED. Agree exactly how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Cutter said: Agree exactly how I feel. For some reason I get the feeling he will end up somewhere else. More than likely stick it to us twice a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: For some reason I get the feeling he will end up somewhere else. More than likely stick it to us twice a year. I hope not I just don’t see how the coaching staff could pass on this kid but it sounds like he has prepared himself for that. I don’t care if he can’t shot fake and get around some defenders at this point or close out on a 3 in the pack line. That is what player development is supposed to do among other things. The kid shot something like 44% from three this year at south. It seems a good shot maker is what we need actually several would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 49 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I know all the reasons on why we are waiting to offer but if we let this kid out of our backyard I will be very disappointed and I dont care if we land the number 1 recruit in the country in his place. This is the type of player we NEED. And if the #1 player in the country is a better shooter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Indykev said: And if the #1 player in the country is a better shooter? I just believe its hard to pass up guys that want to be here and have dreamed about it. I would rather have 4 years of leal vs 1 of the best player. Probably not a popular or even wise decision but. When Mr Basketball is from Bloomington and he wants to go to IU and we pass . I feel that will do more damage than taking him and he not getting a lot of PT. If the #1 player is a 2 or 3 yr guy little bit different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Free20 Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 56 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I just believe its hard to pass up guys that want to be here and have dreamed about it. I would rather have 4 years of leal vs 1 of the best player. Probably not a popular or even wise decision but. When Mr Basketball is from Bloomington and he wants to go to IU and we pass . I feel that will do more damage than taking him and he not getting a lot of PT. If the #1 player is a 2 or 3 yr guy little bit different story Agreed... let's stay away from the one-and-done guys until we have a better foundation and culture. Leal, in my opinion, would help get us there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Billingsley99 said: I just believe its hard to pass up guys that want to be here and have dreamed about it. I would rather have 4 years of leal vs 1 of the best player. Probably not a popular or even wise decision but. When Mr Basketball is from Bloomington and he wants to go to IU and we pass . I feel that will do more damage than taking him and he not getting a lot of PT. If the #1 player is a 2 or 3 yr guy little bit different story Would coach Miller have taken Jordan Hulls?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Billingsley99 said: I just believe its hard to pass up guys that want to be here and have dreamed about it. I would rather have 4 years of leal vs 1 of the best player. Probably not a popular or even wise decision but. When Mr Basketball is from Bloomington and he wants to go to IU and we pass . I feel that will do more damage than taking him and he not getting a lot of PT. If the #1 player is a 2 or 3 yr guy little bit different story Im with you,you dont pass on talent in the backyard and the damage would hurt...could you imagine other coaches talking to future recruits and saying..dont go to IU they didnt even offer a Mr.Basketball candidate in there own back yard...not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Im with you,you dont pass on talent in the backyard and the damage would hurt...could you imagine other coaches talking to future recruits and saying..dont go to IU they didnt even offer a Mr.Basketball candidate in there own back yard...not good Did you want RMK to offer Mark Jewell or Jeff Gross both who were Mr. Basketball in 85 and 86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Did you want RMK to offer Mark Jewell or Jeff Gross both who were Mr. Basketball in 85 and 86 I dont know that he didnt..i dont recall those guys playing at Bloomington South Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, HoosierJax said: I dont know that he didnt..i dont recall those guys playing at Bloomington South You said about not offering Mr. basketball and there are plenty of those who were not big ten caliber players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: You said about not offering Mr. basketball and there are plenty of those who were not big ten caliber players. Mr.Basketball in there own backyard, read again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: You said about not offering Mr. basketball and there are plenty of those who were not big ten caliber players. I would say Leal is a big ten caliber player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Mr.Basketball in there own backyard, read again Saying that just because someone is a Mr. basketball and from Bloomington does not mean he is a big ten caliber player. Not saying he is not but I would not just offer a player just because he was from Bloomington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, IU Scott said: You said about not offering Mr. basketball and there are plenty of those who were not big ten caliber players. Ummmm Jewell and Grose both ended up at Big 10 schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, rico said: Ummmm Jewell and Grose both ended up at Big 10 schools. Jewell ended up at Evansville but would you wanted either one at IU. Maybe I should have said high big ten caliber because at that time NW was not a high caliber big ten program. Also if you read my post about Gross and Jewell I never said they were not big ten caliber player. I just asked thee poster if he would wanted RMK to offer them. Did you want RMK to offer Mark Jewell or Jeff Gross both who were Mr. Basketball in 85 and 86 This was my quote about Jewell and Gross so where did I say they were not big ten caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 Being a former Indiana high school basketball coach I can tell you many of our former coaches did a lot of damage to their relationship with the high school coaches. RMK did not care or had to worry about it. 90 percent of us ran motion offense played mam to man and went to hear coach anytime we could. We loved what he brought to high school basketball. CAM can get their but he still needs to build positive relationships with in state kids and coaches. JR Holmes is a guy that could really help us. Look what happened when Jack Kiefer got ticked at IU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Jewell ended up at Evansville but would you wanted either one at IU. Maybe I should have said high big ten caliber because at that time NW was not a high caliber big ten program. Also if you read my post about Gross and Jewell I never said they were not big ten caliber player. I just asked thee poster if he would wanted RMK to offer them. Did you want RMK to offer Mark Jewell or Jeff Gross both who were Mr. Basketball in 85 and 86 This was my quote about Jewell and Gross so where did I say they were not big ten caliber. Jeff Grose averaged 10 ppg career and was a career 87% free throw shooter and a 40 % career 3 point shooter....who couldn't use that in the Big Ten,I don't know if RMK offered or not but I bet he took a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Jewell ended up at Evansville but would you wanted either one at IU. Maybe I should have said high big ten caliber because at that time NW was not a high caliber big ten program. Also if you read my post about Gross and Jewell I never said they were not big ten caliber player. I just asked thee poster if he would wanted RMK to offer them. Did you want RMK to offer Mark Jewell or Jeff Gross both who were Mr. Basketball in 85 and 86 This was my quote about Jewell and Gross so where did I say they were not big ten caliber. Jewell went to Iowa...where he ended up at doesn't matter. I supposed you would have passed on Scott Haffner....he went to Illinois and ended up with the Aces as well. Knight recruited Simmons.....he ended up at Evansville too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Jeff Grose averaged 10 ppg career and was a career 87% free throw shooter and a 40 % career 3 point shooter....who couldn't use that in the Big Ten,I don't know if RMK offered or not but I bet he took a look Jeff ended up with over 1,000 pts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ib4IU Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 Sorry off topic but somewhat related what was the name of the kid that was a class or 2 after Hulls and was supposedly a really great 3 point shooter. As a Sophomore he was considered a top 150 I think. May have had an offer from Wisconsin and we were all over thinking we should offer. Don’t know where he ended up. Thought his name was maybe Spencer or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ib4IU said: Sorry off topic but somewhat related what was the name of the kid that was a class or 2 after Hulls and was supposedly a really great 3 point shooter. As a Sophomore he was considered a top 150 I think. May have had an offer from Wisconsin and we were all over thinking we should offer. Don’t know where he ended up. Thought his name was maybe Spencer or something. Could it have been Bryant MacIntosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, Ib4IU said: Sorry off topic but somewhat related what was the name of the kid that was a class or 2 after Hulls and was supposedly a really great 3 point shooter. As a Sophomore he was considered a top 150 I think. May have had an offer from Wisconsin and we were all over thinking we should offer. Don’t know where he ended up. Thought his name was maybe Spencer or something. Spencer Turner maybe who you are talking about not sure where he went. I may be wrong but I think his dad is Scott Turner played for Indiana State and an all state player from Bedford. I think Leal is a much better prospect but I guess I can only say that because of offer list slept since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, Cutter said: Spencer Turner maybe who you are talking about not sure where he went. I may be wrong but I think his dad is Scott Turner played for Indiana State and an all state player from Bedford. I think Leal is a much better prospect but I guess I can only say that because of offer list slept since then I think he went to Belmont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ib4IU Posted April 16, 2019 Report Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Cutter said: Spencer Turner maybe who you are talking about not sure where he went. I may be wrong but I think his dad is Scott Turner played for Indiana State and an all state player from Bedford. I think Leal is a much better prospect but I guess I can only say that because of offer list slept since then That’s who it was. He was big time hype. Leal does seem to be a much better prospect with better size if i recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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