dgambill Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 8 hours ago, milehiiu said: The NCAA it is my belief hears the appeal. Then it could go to a court. In the case of North Carolina, eventually, it was a federal judge that eventually threw the case out of court. Court dismisses NCAA from North Carolina lawsuit Thanks. If the NCAA can’t close the deal on Self and company then they are no longer relevant...well even more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 I heard DD just say that Georgia Tech placed on 2 yr post season ban Is this news or did I just miss it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I heard DD just say that Georgia Tech placed on 2 yr post season ban Is this news or did I just miss it? I didn't know about it. Appearantly the first year Pastner was there an assistant gave a recruit and player money at a strip club and a booster helped talk to a kid to come to Georgia Tech. Kinda Louisville light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I heard DD just say that Georgia Tech placed on 2 yr post season ban Is this news or did I just miss it? You heard right. Georgia Tech has a long history of NCAA sanctions. This is just the latest : Georgia Tech basketball banned from postseason by NCAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Just now, dgambill said: I didn't know about it. Appearantly the first year Pastner was there an assistant gave a recruit and player money at a strip club and a booster helped talk to a kid to come to Georgia Tech. Kinda Louisville light. That is what DD was saying and basically said giving money to kid to go to a strip club gets you 2 year post season ban but fake classes at UNC is not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: That is what DD was saying and basically said giving money to kid to go to a strip club gets you 2 year post season ban but fake classes at UNC is not a big deal. Well one was against NCAA rules and the other was not. even though those classes were a joke but other students were in those classes so it was not against any rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Just now, IU Scott said: Well one was against NCAA rules and the other was not. even though those classes were a joke but other students were in those classes so it was not against any rules. Exactly...every college has those classes. Everyone talks and finds out which class or professor is an easy A. Might not be to the extreme that UNC was but it wasn't just basketball players that benefited. Now if it could have been shown that there was coordination between the academic and athletic department to set up those classes and put players in them...probably would have been the smoking gun they needed. Still sad commentary of a school of higher learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, dgambill said: Exactly...every college has those classes. Everyone talks and finds out which class or professor is an easy A. Might not be to the extreme that UNC was but it wasn't just basketball players that benefited. Now if it could have been shown that there was coordination between the academic and athletic department to set up those classes and put players in them...probably would have been the smoking gun they needed. Still sad commentary of a school of higher learning. I had a friend in one summer session take tennis and bowling and he was not an athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 37 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: That is what DD was saying and basically said giving money to kid to go to a strip club gets you 2 year post season ban but fake classes at UNC is not a big deal. So, if the kid goes to the strip club, that is an offense, but when the strippers are brought to the kid (see Louisville) that's okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: So, if the kid goes to the strip club, that is an offense, but when the strippers are brought to the kid (see Louisville) that's okay? Pretty sure UL got in trouble for the strippers didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Just now, Steubenhoosier said: So, if the kid goes to the strip club, that is an offense, but when the strippers are brought to the kid (see Louisville) that's okay? Its funny but here is part of the issue I believe. At GT the recruit was given money for the strip club. I once got in trouble when I gave a player $5 because he had no money to get dinner when we stopped on the way home after a summer team camp. I was told had I bought the food and gave it to him, no problem but the fact that I gave him money it was an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Just now, IU Scott said: Pretty sure UL got in trouble for the strippers didn't they? I thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Its funny but here is part of the issue I believe. At GT the recruit was given money for the strip club. I once got in trouble when I gave a player $5 because he had no money to get dinner when we stopped on the way home after a summer team camp. I was told had I bought the food and gave it to him, no problem but the fact that I gave him money it was an issue. Yeah it is pretty dumb. There should be some common sense used for these rules. Like say less than $20 a day or not to exceed $100 a month or something just to avoid kids going hungry or not being able to have gas to drive home or something. Stuff to cover incidentals...but yeah..it's crazy I could never be a coach because I don't know how many times I give my coworkers money for lunch or to treat them to ice cream or dumb stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 28 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well one was against NCAA rules and the other was not. even though those classes were a joke but other students were in those classes so it was not against any rules. While that may be true the NCAA does have rules about athletes being in good academic standing to play. Fake classes are what kept many of the athletes eligible. Unfortunately the NCAA has no authority over what courses are offered by a university. And there in lies the problem. It's an absolute joke. You had the McCants kid at UNC that was flunking out make the Dean's list the next semester. It was blatant cheating and not punishing them just encourages more of the same. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUaic Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I thought so. They only lost some coaches and a National Title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderMonkey Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Georgia Tech Punishment Summary Four years' probation and banned the Yellow Jackets from playing in the postseason in 2019-20 Lose one scholarship for each year of probation along with other recruiting restrictions Fined $5,000 plus 2 percent of the men's basketball operating budget Former Georgia Tech assistant coach Darryl LaBarrie was given a three-year show-cause order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, SpiderMonkey said: Georgia Tech Punishment Summary Four years' probation and banned the Yellow Jackets from playing in the postseason in 2019-20 Lose one scholarship for each year of probation along with other recruiting restrictions Fined $5,000 plus 2 percent of the men's basketball operating budget Former Georgia Tech assistant coach Darryl LaBarrie was given a three-year show-cause order Have to think they can take it to Kansas now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, SpiderMonkey said: Georgia Tech Punishment Summary Four years' probation and banned the Yellow Jackets from playing in the postseason in 2019-20 Lose one scholarship for each year of probation along with other recruiting restrictions Fined $5,000 plus 2 percent of the men's basketball operating budget Former Georgia Tech assistant coach Darryl LaBarrie was given a three-year show-cause order What about hitting the HC with a LOC ? Thought that was an automatic now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: I had a friend in one summer session take tennis and bowling and he was not an athlete. I wasn't your friend, but when I took summer school, I took Tennis TWICE. Once in each SS session. It was a blast! Back when the wheel was just invented, we needed 2 phys ed credits for undergrad. So hello Tennis. Oops...this is off topic. My apologies. I'll try to refrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, DWB said: I wasn't your friend, but when I took summer school, I took Tennis TWICE. Once in each SS session. It was a blast! Back when the wheel was just invented, we needed 2 phys ed credits for undergrad. So hello Tennis. Oops...this is off topic. My apologies. I'll try to refrain. I took golf which I played in HS. However I didn't know the teacher was going to have the finals over what seemed like the entire rules of the game. I mean the golf rules book can get very extreme and very confusing. I still aced the class but dang that was no easy A test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 I feel guilty for taking golf and racquet ball while attending college on an athletic scholarship!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 hours ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Have to think they can take it to Kansas now. I’d have to see it to believe it. Georgia Tech cooperated with the NCAA and got hammered. Louisville cooperated with the NCAA. UNC told the NCAA to go kick rocks and got off scot free. Kansas & Bill Self are more or less ready for war with the NCAA so I’m guessing they get off light or with no real sanctions/penalties. Moral of the story, never cooperate with the NCAA because if you do, you’ll get hammered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, ThePaulieWalnuts said: I’d have to see it to believe it. Georgia Tech cooperated with the NCAA and got hammered. Louisville cooperated with the NCAA. UNC told the NCAA to go kick rocks and got off scot free. Kansas & Bill Self are more or less ready for war with the NCAA so I’m guessing they get off light or with no real sanctions/penalties. Moral of the story, never cooperate with the NCAA because if you do, you’ll get hammered. I don't know what it is. However, every time I see your avatar. I can't help but thinking of Government Cheese. LOL And you are right about Kansas. From what I have read. They are digging the trenches. And bringing in the heavy artillery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsStoller Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 hours ago, DWB said: I wasn't your friend, but when I took summer school, I took Tennis TWICE. Once in each SS session. It was a blast! Back when the wheel was just invented, we needed 2 phys ed credits for undergrad. So hello Tennis. Oops...this is off topic. My apologies. I'll try to refrain. Is that why I took tennis and sailing? 😂 But both were great. Sailing was very much outside my comfort zone and kind of a personal win for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 I'll jump in. Took a semester of Small circle jujitsu at IU. Evidently you could get a minor in martial arts if you started as a freshman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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