addictedtoIU Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 2 hours ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Russell Athletic is about to emerge as the premiere partner of the NCAA once the big boys get taken down. Nah...it's gotta be Champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 6 hours ago, IU Scott said: Kind of answers some recruiting misses we have over the years. Sometimes we were puzzled at why we did not get a certain recruit when it looked like we were in the lead for the recruit. Also except of UL and UA the other schools need to learn to cheat better because it has not really help. I just saw the list includes South Carolina so maybe it did help them last year. This is absolutely fair. For all those who questioned Crean, he several times implied that something was going on in a recruitment, and IU backed off. This is a shining example of the why. I have several times posted that one thing that can make recruiting at a school like IU difficult is the school's usual commitment to academics and to recruiting clean, and we absolutely recruit clean (well, post-Sampson phone gate). Many schools don't. Louisville... I am frankly surprised that UK isn't caught up in this, but as another poster has said, Teflon John is (or may be) too smart for this kind of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonialcrester Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 58 minutes ago, iRepIU said: maybe take it easy mentioning Billy D on a Hoosier sports Nation site.... That's the second crack you have made about the site. If you are unhappy here and do not trust the information that other provide, why are you here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: Tip of the iceberg. It's obvious the named schools and coaches are not the only ones involved in this behavior. Would not be surprised to see 25%-30% of programs to have some fallout on this or similar revelations about other apparel companies when it is all said and done. Oh I think more will be be named, but you don't omit IU if it's implicated. Too big. That's why Louisville, etc. is implicated. And Crean ran as clean a program as one could run. If you believe Crean and staff were involved in this kind of stuff, well, I don't know what to tell you. Do you really believe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 The wife just saw an AP report that said that there were at least 3 top HS prospects that were promised payments of at least $150K...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstall76 Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, Hoosierhoopster said: This is absolutely fair. For all those who questioned Crean, he several times implied that something was going on in a recruitment, and IU backed off. This is a shining example of the why. I have several times posted that one thing that can make recruiting at a school like IU difficult is the school's usual commitment to academics and to recruiting clean, and we absolutely recruit clean (well, post-Sampson phone gate). Many schools don't. Louisville... I am frankly surprised that UK isn't caught up in this, but as another poster has said, Teflon John is (or may be) too smart for this kind of stuff. I posted it earlier, and I still think it is true the reason we have not heard anything about UK, UNC is that this was day 1 and it was Adidas, I firmly believe that Nike and Under Armor will have their own days just like Adidas did today. There is NO WAY Adidas and Adidas schools were the only ones involved in this type of activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerawkid Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Bowhunter said: Can schools like us drop Adidas even though we signed contact? I'm certainly no jurist, but I'd imagine there's a morality clause kicking around in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Reading the Tea Leaves and random thoughts, I think there are two huge elephants in the room. The first is the guy connected to both Adidas and Nike, if he starts singing the ice berg may be floating and I gotta believe there are a lot of people around Nike squirming tonight. The second elephant is the UL recruit implicated in takin $100,000, if he starts singing a lot of the competition may get implicated. I certainly hope this all comes down hard on this recruit (sorry for him) but the precedent needs to be set. Other recruits that are basically good people but succumbing to the snake charmers are going to say "you know I'll pass and just collect legitimate money in a year or two". Why risk going to jail for 100K when you will make millions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, bstall76 said: I posted it earlier, and I still think it is true the reason we have not heard anything about UK, UNC is that this was day 1 and it was Adidas, I firmly believe that Nike and Under Armor will have their own days just like Adidas did today. There is NO WAY Adidas and Adidas schools were the only ones involved in this type of activity. I think that's possible. I'd find it kind of odd to leave a program like UK or UNC out of an announcement like this -- too big -- but that's a logical reason to think just maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calihoosier Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Kris Wilkes,Malik Williams and Paul Scruggs three recruits that made me wonder how shady there recruitments really were? This just shows how much AAU basketball is ruining kids these days I see it all the time here in Cali with high school basketball being an after thought in most communities/cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Here's a question I have. Obviously the players who received money directly are going to be ineligible. But what about the players whose coaches took bribes to steer them to agents/Adidas? I'm assuming that meeting with an agent/shoe company to discuss a future deal affects a player's eligibility. But what if they didn't come to an agreement, or what if the player never knew about the deal being made behind his back? I haven't read the description of every incident, so I'm not even sure how all the players in those situations were involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstall76 Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Alex Bozich @insidethehall 7m7 minutes ago More Alex Bozich Retweeted Jason Riley Alex Bozich added, Jason RileyVerified account @JasonRileyWDRB I hear the big news is coming in the morning. And it is Big. News. 0 replies0 retweets0 likes Reply Retweet Like Direct message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana8585 Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, bstall76 said: Alex Bozich @insidethehall 7m7 minutes ago More Alex Bozich Retweeted Jason Riley Alex Bozich added, Jason RileyVerified account @JasonRileyWDRB I hear the big news is coming in the morning. And it is Big. News. 0 replies0 retweets0 likes Reply Retweet Like Direct message Hey bstall is this in reference to Louisville? Or more schools in trouble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, bstall76 said: Alex Bozich @insidethehall 7m7 minutes ago More Alex Bozich Retweeted Jason Riley Alex Bozich added, Jason RileyVerified account @JasonRileyWDRB I hear the big news is coming in the morning. And it is Big. News. 0 replies0 retweets0 likes Reply Retweet Like Direct message Dang. That is one heck of a tease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: We might have an opening in our schedule if UL get's the death penalty You're right. It'd be meaningless to play against a team full of Division 3 players and walk-ons. Bad for the RPI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstall76 Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Indiana8585 said: Hey bstall is this in reference to Louisville? Or more schools in trouble? I am not sure, he works for WDRB in Louisville, but I don't think he would word it that way if he was talking about Louisville, everyone expects news from there. He is NOT a spots reporter though, he is criminal justice reporter. I have a feeling we here more schools, more shoe companies in the coming days, no way this was only Adidas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indiana8585 Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, bstall76 said: I am not sure, he works for WDRB in Louisville, but I don't think he would word it that way if he was talking about Louisville, everyone expects news from there. He is NOT a spots reporter though, he is criminal justice reporter. I have a feeling we here more schools, more shoe companies in the coming days, no way this was only Adidas. Interesting thanks for the info. Lots of schools are going to be worried tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Already being reported that Adidas is taking a big hit on the stock market. I bet Nike isn't feeling to comfortable right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUALUM03 Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, bstall76 said: Alex Bozich @insidethehall 7m7 minutes ago More Alex Bozich Retweeted Jason Riley Alex Bozich added, Jason RileyVerified account @JasonRileyWDRB I hear the big news is coming in the morning. And it is Big. News. 0 replies0 retweets0 likes Reply Retweet Like Direct message Mr. Pitino might have finally gone too far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, bstall76 said: I posted it earlier, and I still think it is true the reason we have not heard anything about UK, UNC is that this was day 1 and it was Adidas, I firmly believe that Nike and Under Armor will have their own days just like Adidas did today. There is NO WAY Adidas and Adidas schools were the only ones involved in this type of activity. So I guess the FBI is handling cases in alphabetical order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 I feel like this will be a snowball affect. People getting busted will start turning others in, meaning more programs will fall. I'm hoping one of them is UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBQ Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 For what it's worth I saw this. I do remember him mentioning how he couldn't believe UL hadn't gotten in trouble before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 37 minutes ago, Mac said: Wiretaps and taping require a warrant, which is different than a subpoena, but which must still be issued by a court. You are correct. And it has been reported that the FBI sought and was granted warrants for every wire tap, and video recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Reading how this all got started the FBI was putting the pressure on one guy. He then started singing, probably was only connected to Adidas. However, the guy connected to both Adidas and Nike is the one everyone needs to get singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Bowhunter said: I feel like this will be a snowball affect. People getting busted will start turning others in, meaning more programs will fall. I'm hoping one of them is UK. I made a comment about this just a little while ago. One of these Adidas guys used to work for Nike EYBL. What if he starts making deals with prosecutors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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