Reacher Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, INDenizen said: These schools would have to do some major investigating before pulling the trigger on one of these kids. There will be "good" kids that committed to a problem University and just want out knowing the coach is likely to be gone and / or the program facing sanctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDenizen Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, Bowhunter said: True but some of these recruits will back out due to a coaching change. I doubt all of them were paid. Understood. I'm just saying the school would need to do their homework to fully make sure. I'm not saying that ALL these players took benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Follow up on my Kansas info. Turns out it was Tahoes! That's a fake account, not really Jesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Zuckerkorn said: That's a very good point. Schools that have available scholarships could really benefit. the thing to think about is that these kids could be part of the investigation and took money. Any kid who took money would be ineligible anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosrnight Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 It looks like we have our first massive threat here at our new home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: That's a fake account, not really Jesse. Hmm...I'll have to circle the wagons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoInHoosier25 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Serious question. Who recruited Troy Williams? Was it Kenny Johnson? It makes me nervous that Williams ended up at the ASM agency that was supposedly raided. IF Kenny Johnson crossed the line at IU and Crean genuinely knew nothing about it, how much trouble can IU get in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Does anyone think Arizona fires Sean? What about Bruce Pearl? Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosrnight Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Does anyone think Arizona fires Sean? What about Bruce Pearl? Jason I could see Pearl being gone because of his past at UT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Here is something off of NBCSports http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/09/26/larranagas-attorney-says-allegations-do-not-apply-to-our-much-loved-coach-l/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier10 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Nike is up next...EYBL employees subpoenaed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsorgi Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Does anyone think Arizona fires Sean? What about Bruce Pearl? Jason Pearl: 80% chance he's fired Sean: 35% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 40 minutes ago, hoosierBGH said: They can already make money playing overseas for a year now, few take that option and almost none without pressure to do so. In order for that to stop the cheating, the G league would have to increase tremendously in popularity and publicity. I am not saying this is the perfect solution, but I'm talking about players getting in the NBA system (drafted) without being such a high risk to the teams that draft them. What's stopping kids from going overseas now if it was purely about the money? They want to make it to the NBA. Way more kids from the G League are called up than come from overseas. Overseas contracts are normally just about making the most money you can after your hopes of making an NBA roster have dwindled. The contract and roster limitations overseas make that decision a little bit trickier for younger kids. Not to mention the culture shock, being away from family, and the unknown when it comes to coaching and how the game is played. I think the G League has grown by leaps and bounds over the last few years since NBA teams have started buying and managing franchises. The NBA would only benefit from a decent development/minor league system. And so would the NCAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Does anyone think Arizona fires Sean? What about Bruce Pearl? Jason I would guess 95% Pearl...but I think S Miller may get the benefit of doubt unless damning evidence that he knew...so I would guess him getting canned at 25%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68Hoosier Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 So did we find out if the Kansas thing had any real legs or was it a fake story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampHoosier Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Thank you to the posters who several times got this topic back on track instead of allowing it to devolve in to some stupid political discussion. I don't care what channel you turn on for news. At all. Also, thank you to the posters who have brought forward credible info. This is a lot to sift through and it makes it easier when I see a handful of posters continuously posting factual info post after post. You know what's really funny in all of this? I can't remember one time in my damn life that I have bought a brand of shoe because of a professional player. This is about freaking shoe companies. Unbelievable. UNC is going to get away with academic fraud hands clean and UL is going down for a long time. I don't take any delight in seeing a fan base taken down with a coach. Happened to us and everyone piled on. Not a great spot to be in especially since as fans we don't make any decisions but get the brunt of something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Great post, Camp. I was thinking the same thing. If you want to complain about a news channel, go tell your wife or dog. No one cares. We have a monster story here and people can't keep their eye on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagamore Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Sorry I do want to complain about ESPN tho... I went home during lunch and nothing on any of the XM radio channels on the way home, and when I switched on TV to the ESPN family, all they are talking about is that other stupid sports news story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 They're no reason for Pearl or Miller to be fired based on anything we know now. From all the evidence it appears to be two rogue assistants and in the case of Auburn it doesn't even appear a player benefited. Looks like person you money to get an agent access to a player but never have the player or family money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsorgi Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, 68Hoosier said: So did we find out if the Kansas thing had any real legs or was it a fake story? Fake story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierBGH Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 34 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: I am not saying this is the perfect solution, but I'm talking about players getting in the NBA system (drafted) without being such a high risk to the teams that draft them. What's stopping kids from going overseas now if it was purely about the money? They want to make it to the NBA. Way more kids from the G League are called up than come from overseas. Overseas contracts are normally just about making the most money you can after your hopes of making an NBA roster have dwindled. The contract and roster limitations overseas make that decision a little bit trickier for younger kids. Not to mention the culture shock, being away from family, and the unknown when it comes to coaching and how the game is played. I think the G League has grown by leaps and bounds over the last few years since NBA teams have started buying and managing franchises. The NBA would only benefit from a decent development/minor league system. And so would the NCAA. Just to clarify, I mostly agree with you and others that all the things mentioned will help clean up college basketball a bit, what I disagree with is the notion that these changes will make it completely clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, 68Hoosier said: So did we find out if the Kansas thing had any real legs or was it a fake story? Fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68Hoosier Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Just now, IUwins0708 said: Fake news is that you Mr. President, LOL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhavenwarford Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Can you imagine this board if Crean outmaneuvers Archie and they beat us? People would probably call for Archies head how dramatic some IU fans have become lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Checked out the last few pages of the scandal thread on the Scout Kansas board and for the most part they think they are clean and do not need to cheat. I did see somebody reference the recruitment of Cliff Alexander and Josh Selby as possibly problematic. For years I've seen Chicago kids going there and figured it could only be because of the $. Was also a thread on Langford but nothing new there. They did have this list which might answer a few questions. Not sure how accurate it is... Universities: 1 - Auburn 2 - South Carolina 3 - Oklahoma State 4 - Arizona 5 - USC 6 - Louisville 7 - Miami (FL) Players 1 - Mustapha Heron, Auburn 2 - likely Austin Wiley OR Danjel Purifoy, Auburn 3 - P.J. Dozier, NBA via South Carolina 4 - Jawun Evans, NBA via Oklahoma State 5 - Jahvon Quinerly, Arizona commit 6 - unspecified Arizona player 7 - unspecified Arizona player 8 - Charles O'Bannon Jr., USC 9 - De'Anthony Melton, USC 10 - Brian Bowen, Louisville 11 - Balsa Koprivica, Louisville target 12 - Nassir Little, Miami target" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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