rico Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/wisconsin-suspends-second-wide-receiver-tied-to-sexual-assault-allegations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Sounds about right. (Sic). Suspend the kid for two meaningless games. Wky, and NMex. That will teach him a lesson. And heaven forbid, the team won't miss him. I am so tired of these "slaps on the wrist", when it come to college athletes. Congrats to the young ladies who had the courage to come out now..... instead of 10 or more years down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 And I'm sick of kids being wrongful accused and being suspended before the court of law gets to do it's job. The law states innocent until proven guilty. What's Chryst suppose to do? Suspend him for the entire season? Its not his fault who they play the first two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, btownqb said: And I'm sick of kids being wrongful accused and being suspended before the court of law gets to do it's job. The law states innocent until proven guilty. What's Chryst suppose to do? Suspend him for the entire season? Its not his fault who they play the first two games. Nothing wrong with suspending a kid pending the court outcome, but I understand what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, rico said: Nothing wrong with suspending a kid pending the court outcome, but I understand what you are saying. Absolutely there is something wrong with that. He never gets those games back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, btownqb said: Absolutely there is something wrong with that. He never gets those games back. If he is guilty, he never should have gotten to play those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, btownqb said: And I'm sick of kids being wrongful accused and being suspended before the court of law gets to do it's job. The law states innocent until proven guilty. I agree with this. For some reason, I thought the case had been adjudicated. However, since the law takes forever, I am asking now, if Wisconsin has done their own investigation, in order to come up with the decision they did. I recall an incident a couple of years back, in one of the dorms, during the Crean era not sexual in nature, where some of our basketball players got suspensions. No court was involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, milehiiu said: I agree with this. For some reason, I thought the case had been adjudicated. However, since the law takes forever, I am asking now, if Wisconsin has done their own investigation, in order to come up with the decision they did. I recall an incident a couple of years back, in one of the dorms, during the Crean era not sexual in nature, where some of our basketball players got suspensions. No court was involved. I would assume Wisconsin is doing their own investigation. I really feel both receivers were suspended for precautionary reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamasa Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 4 hours ago, btownqb said: And I'm sick of kids being wrongful accused and being suspended before the court of law gets to do it's job. The law states innocent until proven guilty. What's Chryst suppose to do? Suspend him for the entire season? Its not his fault who they play the first two games. If you were the Wisconsin coach, what would you do? Assuming that the court system operates at the same speed it currently does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, mamasa said: If you were the Wisconsin coach, what would you do? Assuming that the court system operates at the same speed it currently does. Yeah. The kid could get a doctorate from Wisconsin, before the court gets to his case. I exaggerate, of course. But it seemed to take forever for the Duke lacrosse kids to be found innocent, by a court of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, mamasa said: If you were the Wisconsin coach, what would you do? Assuming that the court system operates at the same speed it currently does. Depending on their "internal investigation"... he would probably be playing for me. And wait for the courts to rule. Tennessee just had two former player acquitted of charges. Their college careers were ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, btownqb said: Depending on their "internal investigation"... he would probably be playing for me. And wait for the courts to rule. Tennessee just had two former player acquitted of charges. Their college careers were ruined. Look at what is going on at college campuses across the nation. Sexual assault is more of the norm than it is the exception. Schools, their Ads, and coaches are walking around on egg shells. Right or wrong, that is the way it is. Another thing to think about is there other priors against these players? That would make a big difference as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamasa Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, btownqb said: Depending on their "internal investigation"... he would probably be playing for me. And wait for the courts to rule. Tennessee just had two former player acquitted of charges. Their college careers were ruined. There's no easy answer. The number of actual assaults (athlete or otherwise) is far more than the number of false claims filed. If a person is found to have falsely accused, they should be held absolutely as accountable as someone who assaults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, mamasa said: There's no easy answer. The number of actual assaults (athlete or otherwise) is far more than the number of false claims filed. If a person is found to have falsely accused, they should be held absolutely as accountable as someone who assaults. Agree. But that doesnt change innocent until proven guilty. That's just the part I cant get past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 58 minutes ago, rico said: Look at what is going on at college campuses across the nation. Sexual assault is more of the norm than it is the exception. Schools, their Ads, and coaches are walking around on egg shells. Right or wrong, that is the way it is. Another thing to think about is there other priors against these players? That would make a big difference as well. The law says, innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, btownqb said: The law says, innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around. Where is lawyer when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 You've gotta hold your breath and hope this doesn't hit IU. I am sure Tom Allen has developed an ethical culture, but statistically, it could happen here in theory. Let's cross our fingers for the best. I'd hope this is a big part of their training in the culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosiertildeath Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 To me , it is a shame that gifted athletes do not have enough common sense to avoid such pitfalls !! There are millions of american men like myself who would love to have had the God given athletic ability to be a good player like these wayward athletes have been given ! It is just a dirty shame !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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