CauseThatsMyDJ Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Not really a fan of this myself, as football players are a lot harder to identify than basketball players. I feel like the casual fan will suffer greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CauseThatsMyDJ Posted August 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just looks weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Not a fan of this either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 To me programs like IU who historically struggle getting in bowl games need to do any and everything to promote their players. Recruiting, while on the field....everything. Big miss here in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 I wonder how much money that saves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 I like it from a coach's and player's perspective, but not really from a fan's perspective. I think it goes along well with the goal the athletic department and football team are trying to push of caring about the whole athlete and the whole team and loving each other. But, it will be a bit annoying at first when watching games. Even if they don't do names, I would like to see them put Hoosiers above the numbers to balance it out a little bit so it at least looks better. Quite a few schools do this already, so it really isn't that big of a deal. USC, PSU, Notre Dame, Military Academies, plus I'm sure there are others too. As long as it allows for a teaching moment with the team and an opportunity to turn them into better players, better teams, and better people, I'm fine with the minor nuisance. I also feel like I'll get better at learning who is what number, so in the long run I think I'll hardly notice much difference. The numbers are bigger and easier to see on uniforms than the names anyways, so maybe it is an improvement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Not really a fan of this myself, as football players are a lot harder to identify than basketball players. I feel like the casual fan will suffer greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Hey ! Hey ! No names. What's next ? A mascot ? It's time to dance ! ============================= Not really. Huge fan of no names on the BB jerseys. Too many men on a FB team to only be recognized by a number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Reminds me of the story back in the day when an assistant football coach at Purdue told the equipment manager to have names put on the Jerseys. The next morning there were cattle roaming around campus with 'Bessie', 'Flossie', and 'Gerty' spray-painted on their side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: Reminds me of the story back in the day when an assistant football coach at Purdue told the equipment manager to have names put on the Jerseys. The next morning there were cattle roaming around campus with 'Bessie', 'Flossie', and 'Gerty' spray-painted on their side. You forgot the best part of the story. When the assistant FB coach saw what the equipment manager had done..... the assistant coach told the eq manager : "I told you to put names on the players jerseys..... not on our co-eds. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, rico said: I wonder how much money that saves? They just spent over $130,000 on the new helmets and the players think they are the safest and the best on the market. I doubt that not having the names on the back of the jersey really saves much money. Glass said that football was the only IU team with names on the jerseys and talked to Allen whether they should take the names off the football uniforms. Glass told Allen that it was up to him and Allen said it would be alright to take the names off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: They just spent over $130,000 on the new helmets and the players think they are the safest and the best on the market. I doubt that not having the names on the back of the jersey really saves much money. Glass said that football was the only IU team with names on the jerseys and talked to Allen whether they should take the names off the football uniforms. Glass told Allen that it was up to him and Allen said it would be alright to take the names off. Well it still has to save money.....but maybe it saves Adidas money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, IU Scott said: They just spent over $130,000 on the new helmets and the players think they are the safest and the best on the market. I doubt that not having the names on the back of the jersey really saves much money. Glass said that football was the only IU team with names on the jerseys and talked to Allen whether they should take the names off the football uniforms. Glass told Allen that it was up to him and Allen said it would be alright to take the names off. Problem there is Allen is a yes guy right now. He wants to stay employed so when his alleged boss approaches him with an idea...of course he'll go along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 25 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Problem there is Allen is a yes guy right now. He wants to stay employed so when his alleged boss approaches him with an idea...of course he'll go along with it. I highly doubt that. Glass loved Allen, that's why he's here in the first place. Allen's not a yes man in year 2 because he was one win short of a bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, Leathernecks said: I highly doubt that. Glass loved Allen, that's why he's here in the first place. Allen's not a yes man in year 2 because he was one win short of a bowl. Disagree. Instead of doing a search....Glass approached Allen immediately with offer in hand after getting rid of Wilson because he wanted immediate continuity. Allen's memory isn't that short. He'll toe the line for a bit. With that said. I like Allen. Seems very well respected among peers.....but Glass is a salesman rahrah guy and it came down to Glass (as much as anyone else) wanting to look like he had control of the situation. Reminder....Glass was the one who gave Wilson the extension. Glass was the one who figured out a way to get out of the extension. Glass wanted to look good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Seeking6 said: Disagree. Instead of doing a search....Glass approached Allen immediately with offer in hand after getting rid of Wilson because he wanted immediate continuity. Allen's memory isn't that short. He'll toe the line for a bit. With that said. I like Allen. Seems very well respected among peers.....but Glass is a salesman rahrah guy and it came down to Glass (as much as anyone else) wanting to look like he had control of the situation. Reminder....Glass was the one who gave Wilson the extension. Glass was the one who figured out a way to get out of the extension. Glass wanted to look good too. I remember at the time of Wilson's firing that something seemed a little odd. I know I talked to a couple insiders and thought the dots connected to Wilson being let go early because the administration loved Allen. Plus, Glass said he and Wilson weren't on the same page which was why he was let go, yet we hardly gave him any of his remaining contract. And, if he got a job elsewhere his salary there subtracted from whatever we owed him. I don't know if we actually had to pay him anything for the buyout. I know it all seemed really odd at the time. I'm a firm believer that a big part of the reason why we let is because we had a lot of confidence in Allen. If we didn't hire him, he was probably going to get a head coaching job either that offseason or the next one. I think he's a great defensive coach, a great leader, and a local guy who we thought could be our coach for the next 20 years. I don't think it had anything to do with continuity. Plus, I don't get fired up about extensions. Coaches have to be signed for probably 4 years ahead, so Wilson was getting close to the point of extension or termination. Even if a coach is given a huge extension, they can still be fired. It's part of the game. Are you thoughts on Glass and Allen based on things you've heard, or thoughts you've gathered the last couple years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Leathernecks said: I remember at the time of Wilson's firing that something seemed a little odd. I know I talked to a couple insiders and thought the dots connected to Wilson being let go early because the administration loved Allen. Plus, Glass said he and Wilson weren't on the same page which was why he was let go, yet we hardly gave him any of his remaining contract. And, if he got a job elsewhere his salary there subtracted from whatever we owed him. I don't know if we actually had to pay him anything for the buyout. I know it all seemed really odd at the time. I'm a firm believer that a big part of the reason why we let is because we had a lot of confidence in Allen. If we didn't hire him, he was probably going to get a head coaching job either that offseason or the next one. I think he's a great defensive coach, a great leader, and a local guy who we thought could be our coach for the next 20 years. I don't think it had anything to do with continuity. Plus, I don't get fired up about extensions. Coaches have to be signed for probably 4 years ahead, so Wilson was getting close to the point of extension or termination. Even if a coach is given a huge extension, they can still be fired. It's part of the game. Are you thoughts on Glass and Allen based on things you've heard, or thoughts you've gathered the last couple years? Actually every decade or so I have access to information. The decision to get Wilson canned for cause started in late Sept/early October. At that point Glass knew what the investigation was going to find i.e. Wilson treatment of injured players, treatment of medical personnel who wouldn't clear players,etc...so I believed the decision to hire Allen was made because Glass knew he needed to show some leadership/continuity,etc...within the athletic department. Have to remember this was all going on at the same time that Glass was getting heat for Crean. I like Fred Glass. Have had the opportunity to do some work with him. He loves IU....but in my little small opinion....Archie and Allen should be his last two hires at IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosiertildeath Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 You can easily print out a copy of the Indiana Hoosier Football Player Roster with the players" names and playing numbers ! This is what I have been doing for a long time now . It works for me !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 I'm good with no names. Winning and facilities are what recruit, not names on jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 Tried to wait a few days to get opinions from former players via twitter,etc....haven't found one who says they support this. If we actually care about what the players think...seems to me this is a bad move by Fred Glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Tried to wait a few days to get opinions from former players via twitter,etc....haven't found one who says they support this. If we actually care about what the players think...seems to me this is a bad move by Fred Glass. Thanks for sharing that tidbit with us. The first thought in my mind was the guys who put in the work, weekly... only get into a game infrequently, or not at all. Personally, I feel those guys should be recognized for putting the work in by having their names on the jerseys. Guys, like the real Rudy, who by the way had his name on the back of his jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 I don’t see the need to tinker with this. Leave well enough alone. Not all fans are hard core fans who know about Devon Matthews or Cam Jones. The names help the fans. It becomes an irritant to have them off. I’m not focused on recruiting on this. I like the no names on basketball jerseys. That is a tradition thing and, (a) players’ faces can be seen since they are not obscured with a helmet, and (b) players are are well known to begin with, so it is different from football. I don’t need to check the program to see if that was Al Durham or not. IU basketball is on a completely different level than football in terms of tradition, knowledge and interest of fans, etc To me this is misguided. This needed to be thought through a hell of a lot better. It has a busybody, over officious feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsStoller Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Perhaps it’s a marketing move to get more people to look at the program and website during the game. That’s certainly what I’ll be doing because I have no idea who the players are or what their number is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsStoller Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/LapinSports/status/1036035561625202689 If I’ve done this correctly, you can see that my guess about # of programs being actually referred to during game was correct. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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