BENDOVER Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, FW_Hoosier said: I just don’t think his offensive abilities will ever make up for his defensive liabilities, especially with this injury. And he really just doesn’t fit well with Juwan, who needs room to operate in the paint. Yeah, we’ll have to see how he recovers first. But with that aside, part of my point is that his defensive liabilities aren’t that drastic. I’ll admit I can’t remember a lot of his defensive play from last year, though. I agree that Morgan is more than capable of operating in the paint. That’s where I selfishly want to see him. But I think we’ll be seeing him playing a style that’s more transferable to the NBA game, which is much more perimeter oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 3 hours ago, FW_Hoosier said: I just don’t think his offensive abilities will ever make up for his defensive liabilities, especially with this injury. And he really just doesn’t fit well with Juwan, who needs room to operate in the paint. All I know is what I know. De'Ron is the leading shot blocker in Colorado High School history. And it isn't even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 hours ago, BENDOVER said: Yeah, we’ll have to see how he recovers first. But with that aside, part of my point is that his defensive liabilities aren’t that drastic. I’ll admit I can’t remember a lot of his defensive play from last year, though. I agree that Morgan is more than capable of operating in the paint. That’s where I selfishly want to see him. But I think we’ll be seeing him playing a style that’s more transferable to the NBA game, which is much more perimeter oriented. 1 hour ago, milehiiu said: All I know is what I know. De'Ron is the leading shot blocker in Colorado High School history. And it isn't even close. I’m no basketball expert, but from what I saw, De’Ron got abused on defense last year. He just doesn’t seem to me to be a good fit in the pack line defense, which I think requires a mobile big man with lateral quickness that can hedge and recover. DeRon does not and will not ever have that ability, and I don’t think it was a coincidence that our defense got much better after he went down last year (although I’m sure the rest of the players getting more comfortable in the system also contributed to that). The high school blocks don’t mean much to me. DeRon was a man among boys in high school — almost two years older than every kid he was playing against. He doesn’t have that advantage in the college game, and he hasn’t shown to be a prolific shot blocker up to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Maybe not the elite shot blocker he was in high school, I will grant you that. However, before going down last season, Ken Pom had De'Ron blocking 8.9% of the opponents two point shots. So against a lesser advantage, he was still able to block shots. So much so that was one of the things Alex Bozich said will be missed when De'Ron went down last season. Indiana Can Win Without De'Ron Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Maybe not the elite shot blocker he was in high school, I will grant you that. However, before going down last season, Ken Pom had De'Ron blocking 8.9% of the opponents two point shots. So against a lesser advantage, he was still able to block shots. So much so that was one of the things Alex Bozich said will be missed when De'Ron went down last season. Indiana Can Win Without De'Ron Davis Nice stat! I initially thought that those blocks may have come against mostly lower-level non-conference competition, but DeRon had himself a little block party last December against some decent teams (4 against Iowa, 3 against Louisville, 2 against ND). Let’s hope he can bring that to the team this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonialcrester Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 I like that DeRon gives us the ability to significantly change the look of our line up. In the "old days", IU had the ability to play small or tall depending on the opponent and the opponent had a hard to matching up to us. I think DeRon with Fitz can give certain teams fits...I did make the rhyme on purpose. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 In terms of De'Ron's lateral movement, don't take it from me. Take it from Coach Miller : "He's a good passer. He's got good hands and feet down there. He's got a good presence." Above quote at approx 1:40 of this video : Indiana - Men's Basketball Highlights -Archie Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 hours ago, FW_Hoosier said: Nice stat! I initially thought that those blocks may have come against mostly lower-level non-conference competition, but DeRon had himself a little block party last December against some decent teams (4 against Iowa, 3 against Louisville, 2 against ND). Let’s hope he can bring that to the team this year. That is my hope as well. Overall, De'Ron blocked 22 shots last season in 282 minutes. Second on the team only to Juwan who had 44 blocked shots in 912 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 14 hours ago, milehiiu said: That is my hope as well. Overall, De'Ron blocked 22 shots last season in 282 minutes. Second on the team only to Juwan who had 44 blocked shots in 912 minutes. That probably explains a significant part of the foul trouble too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted June 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 I saw DeRon walking yesterday ( counldnt get photo ). Appears to have lost a lot of weight, including his Kilroy Sports gut he was carrying around. He looked really good. We need a big season from him. I hope we finally get one in his last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 ^^ Good to hear. If he's healthy he could really be a beast. Time to see IU bang up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 35 minutes ago, Indykev said: I saw DeRon walking yesterday ( counldnt get photo ). Appears to have lost a lot of weight, including his Kilroy Sports gut he was carrying around. He looked really good. We need a big season from him. I hope we finally get one in his last. The fact that you didn’t use the term “walking boot” is the best part of this update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Indykev said: I saw DeRon walking yesterday ( counldnt get photo ). Appears to have lost a lot of weight, including his Kilroy Sports gut he was carrying around. He looked really good. We need a big season from him. I hope we finally get one in his last. Good for him. 14 years later, I still have some of my Kilroy's gut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 53 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Good for him. 14 years later, I still have some of my Kilroy's gut. I am going to predict he is 2nd team all Big Ten (if he plays 90% of the season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 I think out of all of the guys on the current roster, I pull for De'Ron the most. The injuries, the toughness he's shown, along with being a genuinely nice kid makes that a pretty easy call for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Even if he can just gain a slight improvement to his mobility and his jumping he can see a big improvement this year. He could barely clear a text book with his leaping last year..he had to finish a lot of difficult shots last year due to his lack of mobility...happy to hear this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Indykev said: I saw DeRon walking yesterday ( counldnt get photo ). Appears to have lost a lot of weight, including his Kilroy Sports gut he was carrying around. He looked really good. We need a big season from him. I hope we finally get one in his last. Great to hear! Davis is so good but it seems like he's had one thing or another holding him back since missing his first summer before his freshman season. He can be so valuable to us as evident when he went head to head vs Bagley, Carter vs Duke in 2017 and had one of his best games. I think foul trouble took him out of that one early. Thanks for update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted June 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Parakeet Jones said: The fact that you didn’t use the term “walking boot” is the best part of this update. LOL, I wrote and no walking boot at the end and took it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Great to hear. If him, Green and Smith can be the players that we all know they CAN be. Then we should have a pretty balanced squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted June 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Update. I just talked with DeRon. Down 20 pounds. Dude looks skinny to last year DeRon. He said he is working hard to get it off and wants his last year to be a great one. The kid looked impressive. Best body I've seen him have here, in any year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 Just now, Indykev said: Update. I just talked with DeRon. Down 20 pounds. Dude looks skinny to last year DeRon. He said he is working hard to get it off and wants his last year to be a great one. The kid looked impressive. Best body I've seen him have here, in any year. Hope and pray for him to have a healthy and productive season for his sake. He has went through a lot in his 3 years here at IU and has worked hard to get back so I hope he can have one great season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, Indykev said: Update. I just talked with DeRon. Down 20 pounds. Dude looks skinny to last year DeRon. He said he is working hard to get it off and wants his last year to be a great one. The kid looked impressive. Best body I've seen him have here, in any year. 'Talked' or 'Stalked' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: 'Stalked' We're not talking about you and Tyra Buss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 52 minutes ago, Indykev said: Update. I just talked with DeRon. Down 20 pounds. Dude looks skinny to last year DeRon. He said he is working hard to get it off and wants his last year to be a great one. The kid looked impressive. Best body I've seen him have here, in any year. That's exciting to hear...thanks for the update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted June 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 34 minutes ago, 5fouls said: 'Talked' or 'Stalked' I did chase him down . lol. He was on a scooter. He was happy to stop and talk however. Good kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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