Hoosierhoopster Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 hours ago, NCHoosier32 said: i understand it's only important at the end, but the higher we climb now, the better we can stay up when we get some B1G losses. when i say we climb to 19, that is what i was taking into account. looks like a great chance that teams between 21-15 will lose over the next two weeks. I tend to see this similarly, though AP ranking is largely a popularity contest among "journalists" who often are simply unfamiliar with the teams and their schedules etc., nonetheless, we want our U to get the recognition it deserves and yes, the higher your ranking the better your ability to remain in the rankings or well ranked while taking losses. The B1G is going to be a real gauntlet. Good to be ranked and ranked well going into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Maybe it was covered in earlier messages but do these voters realize we beat Marquette by 23? Trying to figure that one out. Or are pollsters saying their 2 wins over Wiscy and KState trump our dominating win over them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Seeking6 said: Maybe it was covered in earlier messages but do these voters realize we beat Marquette by 23? Trying to figure that one out. Or are pollsters saying their 2 wins over Wiscy and KState trump our dominating win over them? If you are trying to figure out pollsters and logic good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Maybe it was covered in earlier messages but do these voters realize we beat Marquette by 23? Trying to figure that one out. Or are pollsters saying their 2 wins over Wiscy and KState trump our dominating win over them? The W over Wiscy is a good one, but wouldn't look for rational reasons for rankings, it's just journalists casting votes often without any knowledge, see PU and UK etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: The W over Wiscy is a good one, but wouldn't look for rational reasons for rankings, it's just journalists casting votes often without any knowledge, see PU and UK etc. Ohio St. really has me scratching my head. Yeah, I know I keep pointing out that they won at Cincy and Creighton. But there is no way in hell they are the 15th best team in the country right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, rico said: Ohio St. really has me scratching my head. Yeah, I know I keep pointing out that they won at Cincy and Creighton. But there is no way in hell they are the 15th best team in the country right now. It's because they have Holtmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, StLHoosier said: It's because they have Holtmann Well let's just see what Holtmann can do against the UCLA Fighting Alfords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: I tend to see this similarly, though AP ranking is largely a popularity contest among "journalists" who often are simply unfamiliar with the teams and their schedules etc., nonetheless, we want our U to get the recognition it deserves and yes, the higher your ranking the better your ability to remain in the rankings or well ranked while taking losses. The B1G is going to be a real gauntlet. Good to be ranked and ranked well going into it. There are a lot of the writers/journalists that get it right, with slight variations based on personal opinion. For those that have a vote, but are not properly following the sport, shame on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, 5fouls said: There are a lot of the writers/journalists that get it right, with slight variations based on personal opinion. For those that have a vote, but are not properly following the sport, shame on them. Really? I point to the preseason poll. They hardly got anything right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 36 minutes ago, rico said: Really? I point to the preseason poll. They hardly got anything right. I don't think pre-season should count that heavily against a voter. But. by now, voters have enough information to not have ballots that deviate from the norm by a significant amount. Terry Hutchens, for instance, submitted a ballot where no pick deviates more than 4 spots from the team''s actual ranking (deviations of 5 or more are flagged on the site). It appears Terry is taking his ballot seriously based on how his compares to the totality of all ballots that were submitted. https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/terry-hutchens/2018/week-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I don't think pre-season should count that heavily against a voter. But. by now, voters have enough information to not have ballots that deviate from the norm by a significant amount. Terry Hutchens, for instance, submitted a ballot where no pick deviates more than 4 spots from the team''s actual ranking (deviations of 5 or more are flagged on the site). It appears Terry is taking his ballot seriously based on how his compares to the totality of all ballots that were submitted. https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/terry-hutchens/2018/week-7 Oh, so he voted for Kentucky? Nice. Not buying it Bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, rico said: Ohio St. really has me scratching my head. Yeah, I know I keep pointing out that they won at Cincy and Creighton. But there is no way in hell they are the 15th best team in the country right now. Haven't watched a second of OSU bball this year, but I think it's a good thing for us in the long run to see so many Big Ten teams ranked right now (whether they deserve it or not). If we do well in the Big Ten this year, I'd say we're hopefully looking at a top 3-4 seed in the tourney this year with so many qualities wins we would have raked in. Now, performing well is the hard part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, rico said: Oh, so he voted for Kentucky? Nice. Not buying it Bro. UK isn't #2 in the country by any means, but they probably do belong in the 20-30 range in the rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: UK isn't #2 in the country by any means, but they probably do belong in the 20-30 range in the rankings. Meh, odds say they enter conference play with out any quality wins. Their current resume does not warrant being ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Well Parrish knocked us down a spot. Arizona St. and Kentucky are in now with Buffalo and Maryland falling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 After 2 blow-out wins??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Can’t see us moving up in the polls on Monday. Arizona State and Buffalo the only teams that lost, and they both also have quality wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Can’t see us moving up in the polls on Monday. Arizona State and Buffalo the only teams that lost, and they both also have quality wins. Ummm....didn't ASU get blown out by Vandy? But I agree, IU will stand pat or possibly go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, rico said: Ummm....didn't ASU get blown out by Vandy? But I agree, IU will stand pat or possibly go down. And then they beat the #1 team in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, CauseThatsMyDJ said: And then they beat the #1 team in the country. Crazy ain't it? Hell the 'devils should have got beat by Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 KY and AZ St. winning hurt. can't see why we'd drop, but probably staying right where we are. let's hope for the upset of KY @ Louisville this week and VT vs. ND and TT @ WV. need to move up a little before the Michigan L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cohete15 Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 I think we are going to hover between 20-30 until February. Then we take off...when it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: KY and AZ St. winning hurt. can't see why we'd drop, but probably staying right where we are. let's hope for the upset of KY @ Louisville this week and VT vs. ND and TT @ WV. need to move up a little before the Michigan L. Before the Michigan loss? Hell, we ain't even played it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 To much stock is put into rankings,yea it's fun to talk about and have fun with ,but playing winning basketball will take care of the rankings,especially in late February early March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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