NotIThatLives Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: We need Rob for the MD game, don't know if we'll have him. If we do, I think we pull it out. For the most part, KenPom focused on road v. home games. I think we pull out the home game against UM and probably the home game against MSU -- but caveat is that we're healthy, with Rob back for both and not down another key player. We're a better team than the way Ken Pom is projecting, imo, he's not factoring in health and is still looking at pre-season stuff (right?) You would think and kenpom said the preseason formula tapers off until Jan 28th. Gotta think no one has the time to go in a factor in health. That's the biggest piece that has been hindering this team. Consistency and once they get a healthy squad it going to real nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 With out loss, we moved from 28 to 27 in KenPom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 11 hours ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: With out loss, we moved from 28 to 27 in KenPom. And, 8th in the Big Ten. 😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Come March 12th or so, KenPom will be relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 20 hours ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: With out loss, we moved from 28 to 27 in KenPom. As the day has unfolded, IU is now 24th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 There are so many different ranking systems out there now. I've got a clarification question...is the NET ranking what the committee will use this year 100 percent? Or less percent with other rankings in as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, ArchieBall13 said: There are so many different ranking systems out there now. I've got a clarification question...is the NET ranking what the committee will use this year 100 percent? Or less percent with other rankings in as well? That’s why the ranking systems mean nothing now. Mid- March is when to start paying attention to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: That’s why the ranking systems mean nothing now. Mid- March is when to start paying attention to them Yea, I'm just trying to understand what metrics the committee will value most come selection Sunday (or if they publicly even say we primarily derive our seeding this year from NET or Kenpom, etc.). They may never say this publicly, but was curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ArchieBall13 said: Yea, I'm just trying to understand what metrics the committee will value most come selection Sunday (or if they publicly even say we primarily derive our seeding this year from NET or Kenpom, etc.). They may never say this publicly, but was curious I’ll try to find it. They will be able to consider multiple ranking services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ArchieBall13 said: Yea, I'm just trying to understand what metrics the committee will value most come selection Sunday (or if they publicly even say we primarily derive our seeding this year from NET or Kenpom, etc.). They may never say this publicly, but was curious Basically the NET replaces the RPI. Here is an article. https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-11-26/net-explained-ncaa-adopts-new-college-basketball-ranking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Yes that is right. But so is the opinion that it doesn’t matter right now. Two months from now, it will, but not yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Drroogh said: As the day has unfolded, IU is now 24th! Up to 23rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 17 hours ago, ArchieBall13 said: Yea, I'm just trying to understand what metrics the committee will value most come selection Sunday (or if they publicly even say we primarily derive our seeding this year from NET or Kenpom, etc.). They may never say this publicly, but was curious https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-11-26/net-explained-ncaa-adopts-new-college-basketball-ranking So the committee will consider: NET (https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings) KenPom (https://kenpom.com/index.php) KPI (http://www.kpisports.net/) ESPN's Strength of Record (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/asc/view/overview/sort/sorrank) ESPN BPI (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi) Sagarin: (http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm) Here's how IU ranks in each of these services: NET: 23 KenPom: 23 KPI: 104 Strength of Record: 21 BPI: 28 Sagarin: 14 KPI seems to be bizarre. If you average all six of these, that puts us at 36, which would be a 9 seed. If you drop top (Sagarin) and bottom (KPI), that puts us at 24, which would be a 6 seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-11-26/net-explained-ncaa-adopts-new-college-basketball-ranking So the committee will consider: NET (https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings) KenPom (https://kenpom.com/index.php) KPI (http://www.kpisports.net/) ESPN's Strength of Record (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/dir/asc/view/overview/sort/sorrank) ESPN BPI (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi) Sagarin: (http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm) Here's how IU ranks in each of these services: NET: 23 KenPom: 23 KPI: 104 Strength of Record: 21 BPI: 28 Sagarin: 14 KPI seems to be bizarre. If you average all six of these, that puts us at 36, which would be a 9 seed. If you drop top (Sagarin) and bottom (KPI), that puts us at 24, which would be a 6 seed. That KPI rank is from last season. And I don't know about you all but I've never heard of that one. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Indy1987 said: That KPI rank is from last season. And I don't know about you all but I've never heard of that one. Go Hoosiers!!! Wow good call, totally missed that. I know I've seen rankings for this year somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Correct KPI Rankings: http://www.kpisports.net/2019kpi-dimbb/ IU is 39th. Considering all six rankings, we average out to 25th, or the first sixth seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Apparently with Butler's loss today, IU has already dropped back to 24th in KenPom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FW_Hoosier Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 56 minutes ago, KDB said: Sure about that Peegs? Oklahoma went on a 6 game losing streak last February and made the tourney at 18-13 after losing in the first round of the Big 12 tournament. Depending on how the bubble shapes up, I could see us sneaking in with 18 wins. Will be interesting to see how the NET rankings affect things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 8 hours ago, FW_Hoosier said: Sure about that Peegs? Oklahoma went on a 6 game losing streak last February and made the tourney at 18-13 after losing in the first round of the Big 12 tournament. Depending on how the bubble shapes up, I could see us sneaking in with 18 wins. Will be interesting to see how the NET rankings affect things. Exactly. The NET is going to drive a lot of this and IU is pretty solid there. https://mobile.twitter.com/DelphiBrackets/status/1088486009824837633 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 8 hours ago, FW_Hoosier said: Sure about that Peegs? Oklahoma went on a 6 game losing streak last February and made the tourney at 18-13 after losing in the first round of the Big 12 tournament. Depending on how the bubble shapes up, I could see us sneaking in with 18 wins. Will be interesting to see how the NET rankings affect things. Just came across this. Glad someone else brought up Oklahoma from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Just came across this. Glad someone else brought up Oklahoma from last year. It just sucks 3 weeks ago we are talking about 4 or 5 seed now its can we even get in. There is no better time than tonight to get this ship righted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Billingsley99 said: It just sucks 3 weeks ago we are talking about 4 or 5 seed now its can we even get in. There is no better time than tonight to get this ship righted. If tourney started today I believe we're in. With that said I'd rather secure a few more high quality wins as we head into February. Starting with tonight. I don't want to have to be closet Louisville and Marquette/Butler fans all year long....which of course I will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: If tourney started today I believe we're in. With that said I'd rather secure a few more high quality wins as we head into February. Starting with tonight. I don't want to have to be closet Louisville and Marquette/Butler fans all year long....which of course I will be. True. I have been pulling for all 3 for some time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, BGleas said: Exactly. The NET is going to drive a lot of this and IU is pretty solid there. https://mobile.twitter.com/DelphiBrackets/status/1088486009824837633 Oklahoma did have six wins over ranked teams last year, and three of those were against top 10 teams, so they had better wins than we do currently. Probably gonna have to get a few wins against Michigan, Purdue, Wisconsin, and MSU to boost the resume. Luckily we have home games against all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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