Hoosierhoopster Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Shooter said: Penn State is rated #39 on kenpom. I haven't seen them play this year but that doesn't look like a bottom feeder to me They’re not a bottom feeder. Doesn’t help to be dismissive of a decent team and on the road. Fairer to say we need to find a way to win against the teams in the middle of the pack on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEKA Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 I'm hoping that the squad that played Marquette shows up to this one, though I'm not confident that will happen. This is a trap game. Penn St. is coming off a hard fought loss to MD and they will be hungry for a home win. That said, they have been very inconsistent so far this year - kind of like another team I'm thinking of. If we don't hit the court focused, sharp, and wanting the win, this one could get away from us. I'm hopeful, just not feeling good about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 I haven't seen PSU play this year, but most of you probably remember 6'9" man-child Mike Watkins. He averaged 12.1 PPG, 8.9 RPG, and 2.3 BPG last year before going out late last season with an injury. He has had a number of legal problems, and he has only played the last two games with 21 minutes v. Va. Tech and 11 minutes v. Md. He's a very good defender, and he could be the wild card in this game. It appears he is just getting back into game shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerawkid Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: They’re not a bottom feeder. Doesn’t help to be dismissive of a decent team and on the road. Fairer to say we need to find a way to win against the teams in the middle of the pack on the road. Agreed. This also feeds into unrealistic expectations. Calling this game a “must win” against a “bottom feeder” is establishing a false premise built upon an incorrect assessment of an opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 41 minutes ago, BEKA said: I'm hoping that the squad that played Marquette shows up to this one, though I'm not confident that will happen. This is a trap game. Penn St. is coming off a hard fought loss to MD and they will be hungry for a home win. That said, they have been very inconsistent so far this year - kind of like another team I'm thinking of. If we don't hit the court focused, sharp, and wanting the win, this one could get away from us. I'm hopeful, just not feeling good about this one. Trap game indeed. Hoping our Hoosiers will not be lulled into anything otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Justin Smith is going to have a big game in this game. I think he will be the deciding factor and IU wins by 3-5 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: They’re not a bottom feeder. Doesn’t help to be dismissive of a decent team and on the road. Fairer to say we need to find a way to win against the teams in the middle of the pack on the road. I sometimes think some of our fans just look at the name of the team and remember how they were in the past and not how they are this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I sometimes think some of our fans just look at the name of the team and remember how they were in the past and not how they are this year. They're probably one of the 4 worst teams in the B1G. Maybe they're a lot better than I thought but if we can't beat them we're likely not winning many games outside of AH this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 This isn’t a trap game. Penn State is too good for it to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Just now, dbmhoosier said: They're probably one of the 4 worst teams in the B1G. Maybe they're a lot better than I thought but if we can't beat them we're likely not winning many games outside of AH this season. If PSU and Northwestern played on a neutral court, PSU would be favored. Considering we barely beat Northwestern at home, if PSU is currently a bottom-feeder then I guess IU would have to be considered one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Just now, dbmhoosier said: They're probably one of the 4 worst teams in the B1G. Maybe they're a lot better than I thought but if we can't beat them we're likely not winning many games outside of AH this season. How do you know they are one of the worst teams in the leagues since the season is about 8 games old. It is way to early to tell how the teams will play and who will be good or who will not be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEKA Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Eh, trap game or not, this is a dangerous part of the schedule. This IU squad hasn't proved that they can do much of anything yet. I REALLY hope that they go into State College and kill, but I'm not holding out hope. I think we're starting to get a little more healthy, and we've had a couple of really challenging road tests already, so this game will be a good gauge of where we are as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 5 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: Well we will easily have the 2 best players on the court and the environment there usually resembles a neutral site more than a road game. As 987 said not very hostile. Fans tend to do this, and I think you’re overrating our talent. Lamar Stevens is on the same plane as our guys. I’ve also seen you say we have 2 of the 5 best players in the conference but I don’t agree. I love Juwan Morgan and wouldn’t want him on any other team, but he is not one of the 5 best players in the Big Ten. Im not even sure Langford is in the top 5 right now. He is from a talent perspective, but he’s still finding his rythem and way as a player at the collegiate level a bit. But either way, we won’t ‘easily’ have the two best players on the court against Penn State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Bottom feeders or not, Illinois and Rutgers can beat us on a given night. Remember the game at Champaign last year? The B10 is very good this year. Can't overlook anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerawkid Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Just now, IUFLA said: Bottom feeders or not, Illinois and Rutgers can beat us on a given night. Remember the game at Champaign last year? The B10 is very good this year. Can't overlook anybody. And this is the point: conference play, especially, can be tough every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, BGleas said: Fans tend to do this, and I think you’re overrating our talent. Lamar Stevens is on the same plane as our guys. I’ve also seen you say we have 2 of the 5 best players in the conference but I don’t agree. I love Juwan Morgan and wouldn’t want him on any other team, but he is not one of the 5 best players in the Big Ten. Im not even sure Langford is in the top 5 right now. He is from a talent perspective, but he’s still finding his rythem and way as a player at the collegiate level a bit. But either was, we won’t ‘easily’ have the two best players on the court against Penn State. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomBaby Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, slojoe said: I haven't seen PSU play this year, but most of you probably remember 6'9" man-child Mike Watkins. He averaged 12.1 PPG, 8.9 RPG, and 2.3 BPG last year before going out late last season with an injury. He has had a number of legal problems, and he has only played the last two games with 21 minutes v. Va. Tech and 11 minutes v. Md. He's a very good defender, and he could be the wild card in this game. It appears he is just getting back into game shape. He would certainly be on the all-convict team. The thug has been arrested FOUR TIMES just since starting college. Anywhere except Penn State, and he would have been thrown out of school. And his enabler coach tried to paint him as a victim. He's not responsible for his actions, you see, because he may (or may not) have had a rougher childhood than some of the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cohete15 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Will be a tough game. I'll guess we are +3 in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Playing at Penn St. is not like playing at Arkansas or at Duke. The boys lose this one, then we have some major issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, rico said: Playing at Penn St. is not like playing at Arkansas or at Duke. The boys lose this one, then we have some major issues. Does Va Tech have major issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, rico said: Playing at Penn St. is not like playing at Arkansas or at Duke. The boys lose this one, then we have some major issues. I just don’t see it this way. PSU is no slouch this year and it’s still early in the season. Plenty of time to “make up” for this game if you see it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Does Va Tech have major issues? Yes, in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, StLHoosier said: I just don’t see it this way. PSU is no slouch this year and it’s still early in the season. Plenty of time to “make up” for this game if you see it that way. Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 I think we need to win 2 of the next 3. Not sure it really matters which 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, BGleas said: Fans tend to do this, and I think you’re overrating our talent. Lamar Stevens is on the same plane as our guys. I’ve also seen you say we have 2 of the 5 best players in the conference but I don’t agree. I love Juwan Morgan and wouldn’t want him on any other team, but he is not one of the 5 best players in the Big Ten. Im not even sure Langford is in the top 5 right now. He is from a talent perspective, but he’s still finding his rythem and way as a player at the collegiate level a bit. But either way, we won’t ‘easily’ have the two best players on the court against Penn State. So, when I had Priller on my 2nd team all-conference last season, you're saying that was showing some IU bias on my part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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