StLHoosier Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think any team should be able to shoot 75% because it is all about getting a routine and doing it every time. Sometimes it looks like Morgan gets the ball and just shoots it without taking a dribble or looking at the rim. When shooting a free throw you need to relax and take a couple of dribbles and concentrating on the front of the rim before shooting. There are currently only 46 teams in men’s D1 basketball that shoot 75% or better from the free throw line. I think perception and reality differ quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 The free throw shooting is extremely frustrating and really unacceptable. But with that said, I’ve played for some really good coaches and a few really bad ones, but I’ve never played for a coach that didn’t practice or emphasize free throw shooting. I highly, highly doubt that Archie, the son and brother of a coach and a guy that literally grew up in the gym, doesn’t emphasize free throw shooting. It kind of goes along with the rest of shooting discussion, we just don’t have great shooters on this team. Fitzner is the only pure shooter on this team. I think that trickles down to the free throw issue. I can’t speak to his Dayton teams, but Archie hasn’t had good shooters in his year+ at IU. But, I wouldn’t be more surprised if I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet than if Archie doesn’t emphasize free throw shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think any team should be able to shoot 75% because it is all about getting a routine and doing it every time. Sometimes it looks like Morgan gets the ball and just shoots it without taking a dribble or looking at the rim. When shooting a free throw you need to relax and take a couple of dribbles and concentrating on the front of the rim before shooting. Ya think? You a former basketball player? I know I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cohete15 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Archie emphasizes FT shooting. It's been said by people that have been to D1 practices around the country that we work on free throws just like every other team in the country. The issue is that we don't have good shooters. I am not sure how often below average shooters end up above average from the FT line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 I want to hear an announcer say this about one of our players....."He's on a streak of 31 straight made free throws." I don't care if he misses 14 straight after that, I'm just fascinated with made free throw streaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, BGleas said: The free throw shooting is extremely frustrating and really unacceptable. But with that said, I’ve played for some really good coaches and a few really bad ones, but I’ve never played for a coach that didn’t practice or emphasize free throw shooting. I highly, highly doubt that Archie, the son and brother of a coach and a guy that literally grew up in the gym, doesn’t emphasize free throw shooting. It kind of goes along with the rest of shooting discussion, we just don’t have great shooters on this team. Fitzner is the only pure shooter on this team. I think that trickles down to the free throw issue. I can’t speak to his Dayton teams, but Archie hasn’t had good shooters in his year+ at IU. But, I wouldn’t be more surprised if I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet than if Archie doesn’t emphasize free throw shooting. In my time playing hoops, FT shooting just wasn't something that could be "taught". I grew up, and I mean grew up, where my Dad made me shoot 100 FT's everyday in the barn while he was drinking his beer. Do kids these days have that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Is this an IU problem or more endemic of college basketball in general? Frequent criticism about lack of fundamentals. I wonder if this is just another example of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, BGleas said: But, I wouldn’t be more surprised if I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet than if Archie doesn’t emphasize free throw shooting. I see someone else is watching a Christmas classic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 If you shoot 75% vs 70% and take 20 attempts a game, it's literally a one-point difference. I want IU to be better than they are, but it's unlikely the difference between a win and a loss in most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, rico said: In my time playing hoops, FT shooting just wasn't something that could be "taught". I grew up, and I mean grew up, where my Dad made me shoot 100 FT's everyday in the barn while he was drinking his beer. Do kids these days have that? When I was growing up, I was the one drinking the beer in the barn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: I see someone else is watching a Christmas classic... Was waiting for someome to catch that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, FKIM01 said: If you shoot 75% vs 70% and take 20 attempts a game, it's literally a one-point difference. I want IU to be better than they are, but it's unlikely the difference between a win and a loss in most games. And this is what I was kind of driving towards. If people say the percentage should be X%, it’s really a small difference in the grand scheme of things. Now can it be the difference in a one point loss? Sure, but there are other variables that play a bigger role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: If you shoot 75% vs 70% and take 20 attempts a game, it's literally a one-point difference. I want IU to be better than they are, but it's unlikely the difference between a win and a loss in most games. Would have proved useful against Arkansas..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 While shooting in Bloomington may be below average, in other parts of the state, it is at record levels. https://cbs4indy.com/2018/07/03/violent-crime-stats-for-first-half-of-2018-point-to-another-record-year-for-indy/ https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/28/ https://fox59.com/2018/07/31/indys-2018-murder-total-outpacing-last-year/ https://www.nwitimes.com/news/national/here-s-a-look-at-the-cities-including-in-indiana/collection_542dfcaa-f2ff-53bf-8e0a-fd36fa10fc60.html#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 11 hours ago, BGleas said: The free throw shooting is extremely frustrating and really unacceptable. But with that said, I’ve played for some really good coaches and a few really bad ones, but I’ve never played for a coach that didn’t practice or emphasize free throw shooting. I highly, highly doubt that Archie, the son and brother of a coach and a guy that literally grew up in the gym, doesn’t emphasize free throw shooting. It kind of goes along with the rest of shooting discussion, we just don’t have great shooters on this team. Fitzner is the only pure shooter on this team. I think that trickles down to the free throw issue. I can’t speak to his Dayton teams, but Archie hasn’t had good shooters in his year+ at IU. But, I wouldn’t be more surprised if I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet than if Archie doesn’t emphasize free throw shooting. You serious, Clark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerawkid Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 11 hours ago, FKIM01 said: If you shoot 75% vs 70% and take 20 attempts a game, it's literally a one-point difference. I want IU to be better than they are, but it's unlikely the difference between a win and a loss in most games. How many did we miss against the Razorbacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, zerawkid said: How many did we miss against the Razorbacks? This is a two way street. How many did they miss? Edit: We shot 10-15, and they shot 11-19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 11 hours ago, 5fouls said: When I was growing up, I was the one drinking the beer in the barn. And that is why the sheep were scared!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 12 hours ago, StLHoosier said: There are currently only 46 teams in men’s D1 basketball that shoot 75% or better from the free throw line. I think perception and reality differ quite a bit. I said they should be able to but I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that kids don't work on their own practicing free throws. I use to just go out to my basketball court and practice shooting in general and free throws as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, StLHoosier said: This is a two way street. How many did they miss? Edit: We shot 10-15, and they shot 11-19. Kind of funny how that works. If we win that game, I imagine "Hog" fans would be blaming the loss on their FT shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, IU Scott said: I said they should be able to but I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that kids don't work on their own practicing free throws. I use to just go out to my basketball court and practice shooting in general and free throws as well. But you can't practice a game situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 12 hours ago, BGleas said: Was waiting for someome to catch that You serious Clark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 12 hours ago, FKIM01 said: I see someone else is watching a Christmas classic... Just watched it last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, rico said: But you can't practice a game situation. But free throws is more about routine and getting a feel for it so if you practice it then in the game sit should just come natural. I am sure Archie during practice tries to shoot free throws in game situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: But free throws is more about routine and getting a feel for it so if you practice it then in the game sit should just come natural. I am sure Archie during practice tries to shoot free throws in game situations. My best FT shooter shot 91% his Senior year. He only missed7 all year but 6 were with less than 2 sec on theclock. He hits 5 of the 6 we are 4-0 in those games. Instead we were 0-4. Pressure many times is self inflicted or self induced. Every time he was who I wanted on the line and I was confident in him but for some reason... I really think it's a by product of not working on it when a player is young. I dont get noticed hitting free throws but I do for dunking and crazy handles etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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