Proud2BAHoosier Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Another week off and our Big East kicking a-- tour has another victim in Butler. I like this having a week off. The players that are still, or was injured, can heal. Practices should be better too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: May not be popular but a point on Rob. His points were efficient and key and his D was solid. If he was playing the 2 or 3 that’s good by itself. But he’s the starting point. Seems like he’s getting a pass of sorts. If that were Al or Green the conversation would highlight 3 TO’s and 0 assists. He needs to facilitate the scoring more, he’s the primary point What about the "hockey assist" how often does Rob find Romeo in the right spot to feed Juwan or Juwan to feed Justin? The NBA actually tracks the secondary assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 10 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Lots to be happy about: We won No one can stop Romeo except Romeo Great game from Davis Solid game from Morgan with no fouls Good effort from Smith Rob hit numerous clutch shots. Now something to complain about - the last four calls of the game were utter garbage. It wasn't a foul on Rob, it wasn't out on Rob, it wasn't a foul on Romeo and it wasn't a common foul when they fouled Romeo. Call those plays correctly and we win by closer to 10. I was FUMING about those calls. It is absolutely baffling to me how we never seem to get any respect from the refs at AH. On the other hand, I went over to the Louisville board to see what they were saying about the game... And they were all complaining about how we weren’t whistled for our first foul until 12 minutes into the game and how Romeo shot more FTs than their entire team, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchenry34 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 36 minutes ago, rico said: I have nothing but admiration for Coach Mack. Louisville is gonna be force to be reckoned with. I see him as a very talented Coach and he seems like a great communicator. That said though, there are several aspects of his tenure at Xavier that leave a lot to be desired from a class and discipline standpoint. His handling of the brawl between Xavier and Cincinnati and the comments made afterwards were egregious. He also tends to to slide derisive comments about his opponents in between the lines of his press conferences. See that post-game yesterday for an example. He may grade out as a better coach than Miller in some ways, but I prefer the personality of Miller by miles and miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: I like this having a week off. The players that are still, or was injured, can heal. Practices should be better too. Plus it's finals week. I know we never discuss it but Crean's last 3 seasons APR ratings didn't do Archie any favors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, mchenry34 said: I see him as a very talented Coach and he seems like a great communicator. That said though, there are several aspects of his tenure at Xavier that leave a lot to be desired from a class and discipline standpoint. His handling of the brawl between Xavier and Cincinnati and the comments made afterwards were egregious. He also tends to to slide derisive comments about his opponents in between the lines of his press conferences. See that post-game yesterday for an example. He may grade out as a better coach than Miller in some ways, but I prefer the personality of Miller by miles and miles. I must admit, I had forgotten about the brawl. And yes, he handled that very poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: What about the "hockey assist" how often does Rob find Romeo in the right spot to feed Juwan or Juwan to feed Justin? The NBA actually tracks the secondary assist. As a former hockey player I like the hockey assist, but any way you cut it 3 TO's to 0 (traditional) assists is not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Read that this is the first time since Feb 87 we have won 3 in a row by 2 or less points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Nice “grind it out” win. IU made key plays at crunch time, and there is no better attribute to have as a team. Give IU credit. It is a struggle to score at times. If you have got a guy who can go and hit a jumper for you with ease, this whole team would be different. Right now, you’ve got athletic teams doubling on Morgan in the post and playing team defense on Romeo’s drives. Louisville missed a lot of threes which is a credit to IU’s perimeter defense, but they did hit 12. You can see how that kept them in the game. I don’t think as a team IU will wake up one day and be a good free throw shooting team. Maybe a guy like Romeo will improve. But, the free throw thing is in the team’s DNA and it frankly puts a lid of the team’s ceiling. In games where we miss free throws, the other team hits significantly more threes, and the other team is athletic enough to overhedge on Morgan and Romeo, that’s not a good a recipe for IU. It was a very nice win today to overcome all that, because if you write that down as a formula on a sheet of paper, you would think IU has a limit on its upside. I like our recruiting, and by 2020 we are going after guys like Leal, but shooting should be an obvious emphasis in who we bring in. Now, if you’ve got shooters around guys like Brooks and TJD, watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: ..... I like our recruiting, and by 2020 we are going after guys like Leal, but shooting should be an obvious emphasis in who we bring in. Now, if you’ve got shooters around guys like Brooks and TJD, watch out. Agree. I like the idea of "locking down the borders", but we could use a couple of reliable, dead-eye shooters. I don't care if they come from Indiana, the USA, or Mars - just get 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 I’m not saying we get a Ryan McMahon, but even he, as slight and seemingly unathletic as he is, plays a role. Pitino saw something there as far as a piece he wanted in the makeup of his roster, and it’s played out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricBoogaloo Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Of Rob’s 3 TOs, I think at least 2 of those were charging calls. I still don’t know how college officials call a charge vs a block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 48 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: I was FUMING about those calls. It is absolutely baffling to me how we never seem to get any respect from the refs at AH. On the other hand, I went over to the Louisville board to see what they were saying about the game... And they were all complaining about how we weren’t whistled for our first foul until 12 minutes into the game and how Romeo shot more FTs than their entire team, lol. You guys would have cracked up at the Louisville press corp while waiting for Mack to show up. It was all about how they didn't get any calls. The foul totals would suggest they were right, but Louisville was playing very physical, especially on Langford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 minute ago, The Daily Hoosier said: You guys would have cracked up at the Louisville press corp while waiting for Mack to show up. It was all about how they didn't get any calls. The foul totals would suggest they were right, but Louisville was playing very physical, especially on Langford. I think that’s one of the more impressive things about our team. We play very good team defense without fouling. Are the refs going to miss some calls? Sure, but overall, our defense has been impressive this early part of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Daily Hoosier said: You guys would have cracked up at the Louisville press corp while waiting for Mack to show up. It was all about how they didn't get any calls. The foul totals would suggest they were right, but Louisville was playing very physical, especially on Langford. Sooooooo...you are saying they were poor losers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Daily Hoosier said: You guys would have cracked up at the Louisville press corp while waiting for Mack to show up. It was all about how they didn't get any calls. The foul totals would suggest they were right, but Louisville was playing very physical, especially on Langford. They shot 32 threes, while we put the ball in the paint just about every possession. Of course we were going to draw more fouls with the way we were attacking the rim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: I'm not sure what you mean, or how we would do this. Isolations? More touches? I'm not sure tbh. But I want to see more of what we saw at the end of the Northwestern game. Where we just have one of the two take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosiertildeath Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Deron Davis is my MVP of the Louisvlle game ! Why ? Because he exceeded my expectations versus the bigs of Louisville. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerawkid Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: They shot 32 threes, while we put the ball in the paint just about every possession. Of course we were going to draw more fouls with the way we were attacking the rim. Exactly...and I think they should consider themselves fortunate the foul tallies weren’t more lopsided in our favor. The aforementioned call on the three point shot was ludicrous. Also, there was apparently a reach in or hand check on a Louisville inbound after a made shot by us, inside two minutes that left me scratching my head. I think it was whistled against Phinisee? All told, I thought there could have been at least a half dozen more whistles against Louisville for being a bit overzealous on defense. And, I actually agreed with the two charge calls against Romeo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Okay... I know some say they don't care, but where do you think we'll end up in tomorrow's polls? After looking at the teams between us and #25 and who lost, I'm thinking maybe 27 or so? I think we should be better than that, but that's what I would project. Crazy that if we would have won the Arkansas game we'd be somewhere between 15-20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: Okay... I know some say they don't care, but where do you think we'll end up in tomorrow's polls? After looking at the teams between us and #25 and who lost, I'm thinking maybe 27 or so? I think we should be better than that, but that's what I would project. Crazy that if we would have won the Arkansas game we'd be somewhere between 15-20. I think it's less about losing to Arkansas and more about looking terrible against UC Davis and UTA. I would say we should probably be 25th but I doubt it happens. We aren't playing up to our potential and I think voters will penalize us for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Read that this is the first time since Feb 87 we have won 3 in a row by 2 or less points... Huh. Seems like something else important happened in '87 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 51 minutes ago, The Daily Hoosier said: You guys would have cracked up at the Louisville press corp while waiting for Mack to show up. It was all about how they didn't get any calls. The foul totals would suggest they were right, but Louisville was playing very physical, especially on Langford. Our style will draw fouls and it's not the overall numbers of calls but more so the timing of a particularly terrible call that galls me. That call could have literally been the difference between a win and a loss. One more bad call like that and IU quite possibly loses on a crazy shot at the end. I'd simply like to see the officials better in crunch time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Not that Fisch would be considered unbiased, but he indicated that almost all of the questionable calls were made by Mike Eads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Huh. Seems like something else important happened in '87 as well. Absolutely, I bought my first house!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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