Muddy River Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I didn't want to say anything, but there is an agreement in place with Josh McDaniels, but we have to wait for the Patriots to be eliminated from the playoffs, before it can be official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I just read where Antwan Randel El was hired by new Tampa Bay head coach, Bruce Ariens to be a Defense and Special Teams Assistant. It sure would have been nice to somehow pull him into Coach Allen's coaching staff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I am glad we are not rushing to fill this spot with the first available candidate. That said I guess I thought for recruiting purposes we would have announced one by now. I wonder what the issue is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Name Hart OC with the promise of HC should Allen not work out. Bring Anthony Thompson back as RB coach and groom him to be OC if Hart is promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Name Hart OC with the promise of HC should Allen not work out. Bring Anthony Thompson back as RB coach and groom him to be OC if Hart is promoted That works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: Name Hart OC with the promise of HC should Allen not work out. Bring Anthony Thompson back as RB coach and groom him to be OC if Hart is promoted What is Mike Hart's offensive philosophy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: What is Mike Hart's offensive philosophy? Really? I am under the assumption that you don’t know either. So as a shot in the dark based on the running backs he has been able to coach, I am guessing a balanced offense with a running game to compliment a vertical passing game. What’s your guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: What is Mike Hart's offensive philosophy? Sight unseen, better than Debord's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Really? I am under the assumption that you don’t know either. So as a shot in the dark based on the running backs he has been able to coach, I am guessing a balanced offense with a running game to compliment a vertical passing game. What’s your guess? That's my exact point. Why is everyone clamoring to make a complete unknown our offensive coordinator? Maybe we should turn to somebody proven instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: That's my exact point. Why is everyone clamoring to make a complete unknown our offensive coordinator? Maybe we should turn to somebody proven instead? He’s not a complete unknown to Allen as he’s been on staff for 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Steubenhoosier said: He’s not a complete unknown to Allen as he’s been on staff for 2 years But he's a complete unknown to you. So why do you want him as OC? The great tutelage he got from DeBord? Yes, he is also unknown to me. I'm not asking for him to be promoted to OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: That's my exact point. Why is everyone clamoring to make a complete unknown our offensive coordinator? Maybe we should turn to somebody proven instead? Who is clamoring? You are anti-clamoring. DeBord was "proven". How in the Hell did that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, rico said: Who is clamoring? You are anti-clamoring. DeBord was "proven". How in the Hell did that work out? You and Steuben, for two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: But he's a complete unknown to you. So why do you want him as OC? The great tutelage he got from DeBord? Yes, he is also unknown to me. I'm not asking for him to be promoted to OC. You have to remember what football program we’re talking about. IU is not going to attract a high level guy. What I do know, based on what I have seen on the field, is that Hart can develop running backs. He is a young guy who at least appears to have a good upside and is someone we should try to keep. Given that we haven’t announced a decent hiring after Debord left, what 3-4 weeks ago, why not put the carrot out there for Hart. Give him a chance. Can’t be any worse than Debord. The NFL has become a “go fish” venture, with teams trying to find the next Sean McVay. What do we have to lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: You and Steuben, for two. And I see you as the only one that objects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, rico said: And I see you as the only one that objects. Sure, if that makes you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Sure, if that makes you feel better. Who else has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, rico said: Who else has? I think we should make Ronald McDonald our OC. No one has argued against it so clearly it's a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, rico said: And I see you as the only one that objects. I wouldn't be a big fan of it either. It's just too much of an unknown. Could be great, but could be terrible. I love what Hart has done as the RB coach, but who knows if that will translate into being a good OC. I've heard some names I'd like a lot less than Hart though. My perfect scenario would be to hire a good OC from outside the program and have them mentor Hart for 2 years. Hopefully by that point we'll be playing well enough that the OC will move on to bigger and better things and we can promote Hart to OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: I think we should make Ronald McDonald our OC. No one has argued against it so clearly it's a good move. One thing would be certain. Whoever followed Ronald would have some big shoes to fill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Bob said: I am glad we are not rushing to fill this spot with the first available candidate. That said I guess I thought for recruiting purposes we would have announced one by now. I wonder what the issue is! We might be forced not to rush....maybe we keep getting turned down. Guessing not too many top guys want to be number 130 or whatever paid assist. coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Indykev said: We might be forced not to rush....maybe we keep getting turned down. Guessing not too many top guys want to be number 130 or whatever paid assist. coach. That is what is alarming. We need to get someone ASAP. The longer it goes, the more I see Hart. But, they might be kicking some tires on guys that are under the radar? Babe Laufenberg? Trent Green? Guys that played QB at the NFL level. I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, rico said: That is what is alarming. We need to get someone ASAP. The longer it goes, the more I see Hart. But, they might be kicking some tires on guys that are under the radar? Babe Laufenberg? Trent Green? Guys that played QB at the NFL level. I dunno. If they are indeed kicking the tires on under the radar type guys, I would hope it's guys with coaching experience. Pulling guys out of the announcer booth is a surefire way to get canned. Allen needs experienced guys. Although IU historically pays crap to coordinators, the talent is there to be successful. So it's not a sh*t job. The new guy also won't have to contend with a head coach who's offensive minded, so there shouldn't be any meddling. But Allen needs a strong OC, not someone who's never called plays or been on the sidelines before. If that's the way he goes, he'll be looking for an OC next year too, then probably looking for work the year after that. This must be a strong hire. The problem is we don't know if Allen has enough connections with offensive guys. I also don't think every new hire has to have some connection to IU. They just need to spend the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, rico said: That is what is alarming. We need to get someone ASAP. The longer it goes, the more I see Hart. But, they might be kicking some tires on guys that are under the radar? Babe Laufenberg? Trent Green? Guys that played QB at the NFL level. I dunno. Allen did say he wants someone who's been in the position before, did he not? That would rule out Hart and 99% of the names here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, Indykev said: Allen did say he wants someone who's been in the position before, did he not? That would rule out Hart and 99% of the names here. Unfortunately with our football program what you want and what you gets are not always the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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