IU Scott Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: AAU teammates. Figured that but I like my theory better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUDan93 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Hope springs eternal.....it seems that the best part of IU basketball has been off season and recruiting rumors. Of course I hope CAM gets his recruiting targets, but in the end none of this stuff really matters if we don't have a better product on the floor, during the season, with other teams also on the floor trying to beat us. I think we all want tough-nosed ballers who play with attitude and energy. If Brooks be this type of dude, than he will never find a better fan base that will love him long past his playing days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 hours ago, IU Scott said: Well I am not an insider and the only time I really had a source close to a situation I was wrong. That was when I talked to Hartman's aunt at my aunt's funeral and she said Hartman was not coming back for his last year. Everyone will be wrong time to time so there is no reason to criticize them. You weren't wrong totally. Had Crean came back no Hartman. Crean doesn't like the red shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 hours ago, IUDan93 said: Hope springs eternal.....it seems that the best part of IU basketball has been off season and recruiting rumors. Of course I hope CAM gets his recruiting targets, but in the end none of this stuff really matters if we don't have a better product on the floor, during the season, with other teams also on the floor trying to beat us. I think we all want tough-nosed ballers who play with attitude and energy. If Brooks be this type of dude, than he will never find a better fan base that will love him long past his playing days. We all knew Cam could recruit. Look what he did at Arizona for his brother...question is can he coach at the elite level...heck I don’t even know if his brother can so while I think he deserves 4-5 years given how the recruiting is going the jury is still out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-biggest-mcdonald-s-all-american-roster-snubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUDan93 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 7 hours ago, dgambill said: We all knew Cam could recruit. Look what he did at Arizona for his brother...question is can he coach at the elite level...heck I don’t even know if his brother can so while I think he deserves 4-5 years given how the recruiting is going the jury is still out. I think he can coach at an elite level, he did pretty well at Dayton with "lesser ranked" players. Will his skill as a recruiter bring in high ranked players that will buy into his style? I think there is a dead zone in recruiting 5 star players. By this I mean players who are ranked outside of the top 10 or so players and still only play one year. They are skilled, but don't help build the team for long term success. I think CAM would do well recruiting fringe 5 star guys, along with 4 stars who will all stay 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookied39 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 18 hours ago, IUwins0708 said: Book it! Just so you know....my sad face emoji are tears of joy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 hours ago, IUDan93 said: I think he can coach at an elite level, he did pretty well at Dayton with "lesser ranked" players. Will his skill as a recruiter bring in high ranked players that will buy into his style? I think there is a dead zone in recruiting 5 star players. By this I mean players who are ranked outside of the top 10 or so players and still only play one year. They are skilled, but don't help build the team for long term success. I think CAM would do well recruiting fringe 5 star guys, along with 4 stars who will all stay 3-4 years. I agree about the 5 star kids. Unless you have a team that is already at the top the OAD kids really don’t benefit you. I agree those fringe 5* kids like TJD and KBJ are the best of both worlds. As for Archie...success at Dayton doesn’t necessarily mean success at a power 5 school. I can see where long armed defensive pack zone defense that makes it difficult to score in the paint and forces lesser quality players to take 3s would work but facing the best of the best....the elite shooters and teams with just as much athleticism and length that you see at the top .. it just may take more than that to win games. You need to be adaptable offense and you need sets and plays that put defenses at a disadvantage and let your elite athletes do what they do best. Also...you need elite shooting. Let’s be real...you can win games without elite shooting...but the best teams at the top can put the ball in the basket...and often from 3 at multiple positions. You need shooting to keep you in the game when a team gets hot....I mean if a team nails several 3s in a row going on a run and you have to cut into that 9-12 pt run it takes much much longer to get back to even with just twos...we just don’t have much room for error with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 35 minutes ago, dgambill said: I agree about the 5 star kids. Unless you have a team that is already at the top the OAD kids really don’t benefit you. I agree those fringe 5* kids like TJD and KBJ are the best of both worlds. As for Archie...success at Dayton doesn’t necessarily mean success at a power 5 school. I can see where long armed defensive pack zone defense that makes it difficult to score in the paint and forces lesser quality players to take 3s would work but facing the best of the best....the elite shooters and teams with just as much athleticism and length that you see at the top .. it just may take more than that to win games. You need to be adaptable offense and you need sets and plays that put defenses at a disadvantage and let your elite athletes do what they do best. Also...you need elite shooting. Let’s be real...you can win games without elite shooting...but the best teams at the top can put the ball in the basket...and often from 3 at multiple positions. You need shooting to keep you in the game when a team gets hot....I mean if a team nails several 3s in a row going on a run and you have to cut into that 9-12 pt run it takes much much longer to get back to even with just twos...we just don’t have much room for error with this team. I see where some complain and talk about how Archie cam from a mid major program and it is hard for them to succeed. If you look at most of the great coaches they started at a mid major and then got their big break at a major program. Roy Williams and Bill Self are not the normal where you leave a major conference for another major conference team. Coach K- Army to Duke RMK- Army to IU Roy Williams- UNC assistant coach to KU Jim Boheim- Syracuse assistant to Syracuse HC Jim Calhoun- Northeastern to Connecticut Billy Donovan- Marshal to Florida John Wooden- ISU to UCLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Still wondering how the leading scorer for the #1 high school team in the country isn't a McDonald's All American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, KDB said: Still wondering how the leading scorer for the #1 high school team in the country isn't a McDonald's All American. Makes zero sense. No way he should’ve been left off. I’d probably leave off TJD before him if I had to just choose 1 but both well deserving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, KDB said: Still wondering how the leading scorer for the #1 high school team in the country isn't a McDonald's All American. Probably didnt want 3 players from one team making it...but yes,he should have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Probably didnt want 3 players from one team making it...but yes,he should have been 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_A Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 55 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Probably didnt want 3 players from one team making it...but yes,he should have been IMG Academy had 3. Stewart was the only one from La Lumiere. Not to take anything away from Samuel Williamson, he's a great player, but Brooks is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 57 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Probably didnt want 3 players from one team making it...but yes,he should have been 3 players from the Bradenton IMG Academy made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2014Hoosier Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 This week has been terrible, can Keion commit today to make the week better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 43 minutes ago, DC2345 said: 3? Stewart is one ,Brooks should have been,then while looking at list I somehow came up with another one..my bad...🤔....I shouldn't read this site and work at the same time..😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Any happy news on this front yet? We kind of need it after tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 If I were Mr. Brooks I would be heading north to East Lansing. I wouldn't want any part of the dumpster fire in Bloomington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, jefftheref said: If I were Mr. Brooks I would be heading north to East Lansing. I wouldn't want any part of the dumpster fire in Bloomington. Stop. Then why are you part of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 46 minutes ago, jefftheref said: If I were Mr. Brooks I would be heading north to East Lansing. I wouldn't want any part of the dumpster fire in Bloomington. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, jefftheref said: If I were Mr. Brooks I would be heading north to East Lansing. I wouldn't want any part of the dumpster fire in Bloomington. You're laughable. Stop. 😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, jefftheref said: If I were Mr. Brooks I would be heading north to East Lansing. I wouldn't want any part of the dumpster fire in Bloomington. So that is suppose to help this program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, HoosierJax said: Ouch! Yeah that’s harsh but then I watch Romeo actually play worse as the B1G season moves along and the coach doing nothing to make things better for him or the team. No adjustments etc...would make me wonder if Archie is who I would trust to take my game to the next level or should I go somewhere with a proven track record. It isn’t crazy to think about. I sure hope Archie can turn things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLHoosier Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, dgambill said: Yeah that’s harsh but then I watch Romeo actually play worse as the B1G season moves along and the coach doing nothing to make things better for him or the team. No adjustments etc...would make me wonder if Archie is who I would trust to take my game to the next level or should I go somewhere with a proven track record. It isn’t crazy to think about. I sure hope Archie can turn things around. What do you want him to do for him, make his jump shots for him? Romeo has struggled mightily on his jump shot this year. Guess what teams are making us do? They’re packing the paint and making us shoot jump shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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